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I Think I Hate My Therapist

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Hi Jesse, I'm sorry that you had to go through that BS. The guy obviously has no idea how to help you but is turning it all back on you. I wouldn't pay him another penny.

Until you can hopefully find someone to help you, keep posting here with people that really understanding what you are going through. Sometimes I think (no, I know) I get more out of the site then seeing my T. I also need to find someone who can really help me.

Peace, NIKI
 
Frankly he sounds awful, and there are no two ways about it. He sounds completely useless, and I think you know what you have to do and are feeling stuck. I'm so sorry about that. Wouldn't it be great if there were more therapists around. Hmmm, I have a suggestion, would you like to see a woman? Ha ha. I wonder why he was asking you that as if he has some sort of problem. I have some other observations, but I don't want upset you. Here goes: sounds to me like the guy looks down on you and does not understand this disorder. I mean starting out a sentence with "I don't mean to be cruel."...What? It's puzzling. Another thing, I hope that he was not calling you irrational. If he was you don't stay with him another second. I couldn't tell by the account given if he was referring to a situation he was trying to help you with. If he said that to you, just run for your life he is completely... not qualified.
 
Yikes!! First off what an ***hole!! and a complete waste of time and $$. (my opinion) I have had run-ins like this and have learned to not waste my time or money on people like this. You could easily take action but why bother at this point since you need to take care of yourself. There are ways to cut down on the process of weeding out people like this, those that are just 'not a good fit'.Grrrrr!

You can call the tdocs first and initiate phone interviews. If a tdoc is not willing to do one then they are most likely not willing to take emergency calls when you are really in need or do call backs. That's not a good sign. Move on to the next person.

During the interview you might have a list of the kind of therapy you are looking for or what you might be thinking is your most pressing issues and if they are experienced in that area, if so, how long, blah blah blah. Some therapist are strictly CBT or talk therapy, or whatever. Have a list of questions ready so you can ask if they take your insurance or how much they charge, etc. Do this ahead of time so that at least you have some sense of the person before you get there. Of course you can't know really if it's a good fit just from a phone call but at least you will be able to weed some of them out ahead of time.

I am so sorry you went through this, it's outrageous and totally unprofessional of him. His formal letter was to protect his butt and all the crap he told you was just that. Hang in there and I know you will find the right person because there is someone that is in the field for the right reason who fits. It took me awhile to find my tdoc but I found her. You might think about looking for someone that works as a Trauma Specialist, check with the Rape Clinics if you are in USA they might be able to recommend someone for you. However, I would still recommend doing the phone interview because you never know if what they do is what you are looking for. I know you are looking for a man but if it's a specialist try to stay open in that area, just a thought.

Good luck, and good on you for knowing you were in the right with this idiot!!

Rain
 
Jesse,

I know you said that you live in a rural area so you don't much options when it comes to choosing a therapist but I don't think you should see this man again. The number one job of a therapist is this: if they can not help you feel better then their job is to at least allow you to walk away unharmed by their words or actions. It sounds like this man is harming his patients (I am sure you are not the only one) rather than helping them.

I had a bad experience with a Psychiatrist when I was eighteen who wouldn't talk to me either. He would just sit there and stare at me with a strange sadistic smile on his face. The last time I saw him I ran out of the room, past the receptionist, out onto the street crying. I could tell by the look on the receptionists face that she was not surprised. Just because someone is a doctor of Psychiatry or a therapist does not mean that they are good or moral people. Most of them are, I would say 95% of them. But, this man is probably one of the 5% that harm their patients rather than help them. I also had a friend who is a therapist who tried to counsel me about 10 years ago, when all I wanted was a friend. But, she did not have my best interests at heart. I realize now that she never liked me as a friend, she was comfortable with the dynamics of our relationship which was her thinking her role was to help me, when all I wanted was a friend. She always held a bitterness towards me and wanted to 'burst my bubble.' Therapists have a code of conduct and they are not supposed to say things like "you can't rationalize with an irrational person" and they are not supposed to bring their counseling outside of their office and into their friendships especially when the person on the receiving end does not that is what is going on. Imagine a doctor who does operations in a hospital taking their job outside on the streets and operating on their friends body parts. It is the same thing. The mind is very malleable and you have to be very careful who you share your thoughts with. Words are weapons if not used properly.

Maybe you should look into finding another therapist in the nearest big city? Even if it means a long bus ride or car drive. It would be worth it. I hope you are lucky in finding someone better and sorry to hear about your awful experience.
 
I expressed to him many times that I wanted him to help me with childhood trauma. He isn't into guiding you or starting a conversation he wants you to start.
Actually, I would say he is correct... it is useless if you aren't the one doing the talking... he can't solve your problems, he can only assist you to solve your problems. If you aren't willing to disclose and get your problems out, then nothing he really says will change that.

He has said repeatedly that "you can't rationalize with an irrational person" some kind of catch phrase in the profession. Now it's pretty obvious to me that is how he looks at me. I think that is a cop out too. Shrinks are suppossed to get irrational people to calm down and try to get them to be rational.
He is again correct, you can't rationalise with an irrational person. If you are being stubborn, irrational, then it is useless for him to attempt to help you, because it all goes in one ear, out the other, and you blame him regardless for your failure to want to help yourself.

And shrinks aren't suppose to get you to be rational, you are supposed to change your own behaviour to be rational. They are only meant to identify it and tell you that you're being irrational... you have to want to listen, and invoke change. Obviously you don't want too... but instead make every excuse and blame the therapist for your failure to actually talk out your own trauma. They don't mind read, there aren't voodoo tricks they know to get you to talk. By your own admission, you seem to think such tricks exists, as you believe its their job to get you to talk. Strike!
 
I agree it is possibly that excuses are being made Anthony, but I have met some of the awful ones, they are out there. I have heard of horror stories like therapists getting their patients into a vulnerable state and then taking advantage of them. And I disagree with the no Voodoo tricks thing, otherwise none of them ever would have gotten me to talk, Lol. I never wanted to listen and often blamed it on them, though some of them I can legitamently say it was their fault.
 
Yep, there are idiots out there... no question about it, but from admissions made above, I don't see this one being one of them from what is being said.
 
Actually, I would say he is correct... it is useless if you aren't the one doing the talking... he can't solve your problems, he can only assist you to solve your problems. If you aren't willing to disclose and get your problems out, then nothing he really says will change that.

Thank you! He's a therapist, not a miracle worker. The therapist can't make a person talk. I absolutely realize that there are times when it is incredibly difficult to talk. And there may be times when you sit there wanting to say something and you're having trouble getting it out. But ultimately you have to do the talking. The therapist can't make you.

Yes, there are bad therapists in the world. But a person needs to have realistic expectations from their therapist. If you're not talking or when you do talk it is to make some smartass comment, what could you reasonably expect the therapist to accomplish?
 
Actually, I would say he is correct... it is useless if you aren't the one doing the talking... he can't solve your problems, he can only assist you to solve your problems. If you aren't willing to disclose and get your problems out, then nothing he really says will change that.

Jesse never said they weren't willing to talk. They said that they have a hard time initiating it. I have the same problem. When my therapist asks when I want to talk about in a given session, I will usually tell her everything I want to cover and start with the "weekly review." She is normally, or always, the one who brings my past into play. I just can't initiate it yet.

I do think it's the therapists responsibility to steer the therapy in a direction that's advantageous. IF the patient keeps going off topic, that's another thing to be worked on in therapy, not to be ignored.

He is again correct, you can't rationalise with an irrational person. If you are being stubborn, irrational, then it is useless for him to attempt to help you, because it all goes in one ear, out the other, and you blame him regardless for your failure to want to help yourself.

There is a difference between an irrational person and irrational beliefs that a person has. Therapy is supposed to help you be able to see your irrational beliefs and change them, not ignore them because they're irrational.

And shrinks aren't suppose to get you to be rational, you are supposed to change your own behaviour to be rational.

True, with their help. If we knew how to change our own behavior to be rational, we wouldn't need them to help us.

They are only meant to identify it and tell you that you're being irrational... you have to want to listen, and invoke change. Obviously you don't want too... but instead make every excuse and blame the therapist for your failure to actually talk out your own trauma. They don't mind read, there aren't voodoo tricks they know to get you to talk. By your own admission, you seem to think such tricks exists, as you believe its their job to get you to talk. Strike!

Just because you tell someone they are being irrational, doesn't mean that the person knows how to change their beliefs. Again, if we knew how to do that, we wouldn't need the therapist's help.

Even non-traumatized people have a hard time changing their beliefs and it's even harder to do when the belief is one from a traumatic event or series of events.

Jesse never said it was the therapists' job to get them to talk. She said she had problems initiating, as do I.

Anthony, I really don't understand why when people are having a hard time in therapy, or hard time in general, you tell them they aren't trying hard enough or are making excuses. It's one thing when you know the person and KNOW this is the case, but online, you rarely have the ability to do that. It's hard enough to talk about these things in the first place, but then to be told that your making excuses or not trying can be really hurtful and retraumatizing.
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Jesse, find a different therapist. As has been said, this one obviously isn't a match for you. I am also going to bring up to my therapist that I have trouble initializing conversations about my past abuse. Though I think she is pretty much aware of that by now, it will be good for me to tell her. Thanks for bringing that up and good job for being able to tell your therapist, even if he didn't use the information to help you.
 
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