Yeah, if I take a big dose of etomidate I'm sure I wouldn't have any symptoms of PTSD! But that's probably because I'll be knocked out :p. Every psychological disorder is affected by drugs, because every psychological disorder is rooted in the brain, and drugs affect the brain. But that's like saying just because depression can be helped with SSRIs, someone shouldn't go see a psych to get help with their depression. That's like saying because depression can be helped with SSRIs, it's not a psychological disorder.
But it is, and you still need both physiological (medicine) and psychological (therapy) assistance in order to fully treat depression. The same is true of PTSD. Psychological disorders have two components: The psychological aspect, the perceptual aspect, and the physical aspect. Depression is physically an issue with the serotonin levels in your brain. Lack of serotonin, lack of happiness, ergo, depression.
But you wouldn't tell a depressed person to just snort some heroin and they'll suddenly be fixed cause their serotonin will be boosted. A person with depression still has to go to therapy in order to better be able to conceptualize of their life, their perceptions about what is happening, their emotional reactions, their choices, their actions, their faulty coping mechanisms (Drugs, for starters. Gambling, avoidance, distraction, self-harming, reckless behavior, etc. They're all shitty coping mechanisms), etc.
I think we can all agree that the level of treatment for PTSD at this point is primitive, and that most people with PTSD deal with it on a lifetime basis. I think most people agree they'd love a catch all cure, but aside from snorting some heroin, it just isn't gonna happen. So people work with what they have. Being open to new ideas is paramount, definitely, and you have some good points. But you keep obscuring those points with invalidating and condescending and assuming responses regarding the nature of other people's diagnoses, and that is where you are getting the flak.
You can't put down an entire regime of treatment just because you think it's stupid. I think EFT is stupid, but if I see someone who is getting helped by EFT, I'm not gonna put it down and say it's a shitty cure and it doesn't work and that means they don't have PTSD. Does that make sense?
There's another thread on here that talks about the Chicago Block, the SGB treatment, which is an interesting addition to your claim that PTSD is an entirely organic response. In my opinion, PTSD is a disorder whereby the brain does not realize it is not being traumatized any longer, and reacts to external and unrelated triggers as though it is being traumatized again. Hence, the fear response.
The fear response is a natural response, and it is working correctly (When something traumatic happens, fear is generally the accepted response) - but, it isn't working in the right situation, it's out of context. SGB seems to inhibit the sudden trigger response, which helps a lot of people. But, as you notice on the board, and with Anthony's responses to the board as well, SGB is not a cure for PTSD.
It treats the physical aspect, but there is still a whole psychological component to the disorder that still needs to be addressed despite this. So it's a multidimensional issue.
But it is, and you still need both physiological (medicine) and psychological (therapy) assistance in order to fully treat depression. The same is true of PTSD. Psychological disorders have two components: The psychological aspect, the perceptual aspect, and the physical aspect. Depression is physically an issue with the serotonin levels in your brain. Lack of serotonin, lack of happiness, ergo, depression.
But you wouldn't tell a depressed person to just snort some heroin and they'll suddenly be fixed cause their serotonin will be boosted. A person with depression still has to go to therapy in order to better be able to conceptualize of their life, their perceptions about what is happening, their emotional reactions, their choices, their actions, their faulty coping mechanisms (Drugs, for starters. Gambling, avoidance, distraction, self-harming, reckless behavior, etc. They're all shitty coping mechanisms), etc.
I think we can all agree that the level of treatment for PTSD at this point is primitive, and that most people with PTSD deal with it on a lifetime basis. I think most people agree they'd love a catch all cure, but aside from snorting some heroin, it just isn't gonna happen. So people work with what they have. Being open to new ideas is paramount, definitely, and you have some good points. But you keep obscuring those points with invalidating and condescending and assuming responses regarding the nature of other people's diagnoses, and that is where you are getting the flak.
You can't put down an entire regime of treatment just because you think it's stupid. I think EFT is stupid, but if I see someone who is getting helped by EFT, I'm not gonna put it down and say it's a shitty cure and it doesn't work and that means they don't have PTSD. Does that make sense?
There's another thread on here that talks about the Chicago Block, the SGB treatment, which is an interesting addition to your claim that PTSD is an entirely organic response. In my opinion, PTSD is a disorder whereby the brain does not realize it is not being traumatized any longer, and reacts to external and unrelated triggers as though it is being traumatized again. Hence, the fear response.
The fear response is a natural response, and it is working correctly (When something traumatic happens, fear is generally the accepted response) - but, it isn't working in the right situation, it's out of context. SGB seems to inhibit the sudden trigger response, which helps a lot of people. But, as you notice on the board, and with Anthony's responses to the board as well, SGB is not a cure for PTSD.
It treats the physical aspect, but there is still a whole psychological component to the disorder that still needs to be addressed despite this. So it's a multidimensional issue.
