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Intrusive Recollections And The Amygdala

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loqu

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Since the only diagnosable symptom from my trauma has been intrusive thoughts I was quite disturbed to read the results of the following study:

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0006322302019078

Basically it says that cancer survivors with intrusive recollections (and no other symptoms) had an amygdala reduced in size compared to the control group (survivors without intrusive thoughts). Interestingly, in this article on the cancer study the scientists in charge speculates that the volumetric alterations of the amygdala precede the cancer-related intrusive recollections:

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/38/20/21.2.full

"Still, the psychological stress of having cancer might shrink the left amygdala via some other means, and a diminished amygdala might then lead to intrusive recollections."

Here is a report with a somewhat similar result, reduced amygdala due to PTSD:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914045

I have earlier seen this report on the effect of the hippocampus due to PTSD:

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/8/1248

These results are certainly more encouraging as they say there were no change in hippocampus size after 6 months of post traumatic stress.

Unfortunately I can't get to the full report of the first study and so I wanted to post here and find out if anyone has any other information on the damaging effects of passing trauma symptoms or considerations about these studies. Much thanks!
 
Let me add that I recently read an excerpt from the book "The Human Amygdala" on Google Books where a juxtaposition of studies on PTSD and the amygdala found that a majority saw no volumetric difference in PTSD sufferers compared to the control group. I still think that this topic, damage done on the brain and consequences of trauma symptoms, deserves a discussion.
 
Loqu,

I am glad you started this thread. I also want to learn more about what physiological changes have been made to our neurology. I am looking up the links now and hope to have more to discuss soon. I have read on BBC News Health that there is a genetic link (ABCA13 Gene) to many forms of mental illness (bipolar, depression, etc) that causes an abnormality in the way fat molecules are used by brain cells. I find that interesting because there is another article on this forum that talks about someone with PTSD using omega 3 fatty acids combined with alternating fine motor skills with the right and left hand to reduce or eliminate PTSD symptoms.

I am also currently reading a book called "Emotional Intelligence" by Daniel Goleman which talks about abnormalities on the Amygdala and its interaction with the NeoCortex in a wide variety of situations from PTSD to normal everyday outbursts of emotion. It calls times when our Amygdala reacts to a percieved thread before the neocortex has time to react "emotional hijackings". It also mentions that the Amygdala is nearly completely formed at birth while other parts of the brain are just starting to develop and this can cause problems with people who survived early childhood abuse or neglect.

I still have a lot to learn about this but I find the topic very interesting and would like to see further discussion as well. Perhaps the physiological differences are not the entire picture but they might explain a genetic predisposition for PTSD and other illnesses. It also might lead to new screaning/diagnostic methods and (hopefully) new treatments.

I would love to hear more of your thougth on this.

Liz H.
 
Thanks for the research.:thumbs-up

I, too, have been looking for 'brain function' info. A recent article from England mentioned in the New York Times talks about how gene function is affected by trauma.

In a normal kid, growing up with a few scrapes and bruises, The DNA strands responsible for replicating seritonin, dopamine and norepinephrine are able to function well. Their brains' genes are capable of unzipping when those biochemicals are called for.

In people whose childhoods have been traumatic, boy soldiers, children of the struggles in Ireland, people of Darfur and any of us who have been consistantly traumatized, those genes don't unzip. Those of us who suffered moderate to severe trauma in young childhood cannot produce those good brain biochemicals. Our DNA is incapable of replicating the appropriate biochemicals.

Knowing that has reconciled me to having to take antidepressants for the rest of my life. It is a relief to know not to blame myself when I can't conquer some of my depression. Depression is not my fault or failure to pick myself up, put on a stiff upper lip and go on.
 
Absolutely - it is not your fault at all.

Great thread... really interesting research going on globally so who knows... maybe one day they will crack this.
 
Thanks for the info - I'll make my way through it and get back to you.

I still say that from the start of this, something went wrong and I KNEW it, come on if you look to some of my older posts or conversations with my colleagues, I'd say that I wished I could just get an Ablasion for my brain.

At the beginning the only way I could describe my symptoms was to compare them to SVT (Supra Ventricular Tachycardia), "Its like there's some sort of feedback loop somewhere in there that needs to be re-wired". In SVT there is a 'mis-fire' to simplify it, along the electrical pathway from the heart's primary pacemaker cells, this re-triggers the pacer repeatedly and results in episodes of sudden increased heart rate.

This is how I always imagined the strange symptoms that I was experiencing before I was diagnosed with PTSD. It was like something in my brain was mis-firing and triggering a cascade of electrical activity that should not normally be associated with a 'memory' pathway. If there was some way to get in there, restore the normal pathway for the memory and divert it away from the 'damaged' cells, then TaDa - PTSD cured.

I wonder if this is how the concept of "re-training the brain" works in those who claim success from learning how to be ambidextrous??? You inadvertently create an alternate 'memory' pathway which lessens the electrical stimulation in that particular area??

Wish it was that simple huh?
 
Read over the material, thanks again. Some interesting stuff in there, kinda lead me on a small research journey of my own.

I found a site called Brain Explorer (www. brainexplorer . org/ ptsd /PTSD_Aetiology.html) and it gives a really good overview of some of the theories and investigative findings.

I especially liked the section on the alpha2 adrenergic receptor agonists, it made me go looking for more information on the function of those receptors. Guess I'm actually looking for support of my own theory so that I don't think I'm talking out my butt or something.

You got me going. Wish I had the brain to be a neurobiologist....sigh.
 
Trauma And Emotional Relearning

I thought I would add some things I found in the book "Emotional Intelligence" by Daniel Goleman" since I am currently reading it and found some of the research he describes interesting. Chapter 13 specifically focuses on PTSD and the neurological changes created by trauma.

Horror Frozen In Memory


"...PTSD represents a perilous lowering of the neural setpoint for alarm, leaving the person to react to life's ordinary moments as though they were emergencies. The hijacking circut discussed in Chapter 2 seems critical in leaving such a powerful brand on memory: the more brutal, shocking, and horrendous the events that trigger the amygdala hijacking the more indelible the memory. The neural basis for these memories appears to be a sweeping alteration in the chemistry of the brain set in motion by a single instance of wverwhelming terror. While the PTSD findings are typically based on the impact of a single episode, similar results can come from cruelties inflicted over a period of years, as is the case with children who are sexually, physically, or emotionally abused.

The most detailed work on these brain changes is being done at the National Center for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, a network of research sites based at Veteran's Administration hospitals where there are large pools of those who sufer from PTSD among the veterans of Vietnam and other wars. It is from studies on vets such as these that most of our knowledge of PTSD has come. But these insights apply as well to children who have suffered severe emotional trauma, such as those (who have witnessed a school shooting).

'Victims of a devistating trauma may bever be the same biologically' Dr Dennis Charney told me. A Yale Psychiatrist, Charney is director of clinical neuroscience at the National Center....

PTSD As A Limbic Disorder


..."The main symptoms of such fearfulness - including the most intense kind, PTSD - can be accounted for by the changes in the limbic circuitry focusing on the amygdala. Some of the key changes are in the locus ceruleus, a structure that regulates the brain's secretion of two substances called catecholamines: adrenaline and noradrenaline. These neurochemicals mobilize the body for an emergency; the same catecholamine surge stamps memories with special strength. In PTSD this system becomes hyperactive, secreating extra-large doses of these brain chemicals in response to situations that hold lttle or no threat but somehow are reminders of the origional trauma....

The locus ceruleus and the amaygdala are closely linked, along with other limbic structures such as the hippocampus and nypothalamus; the circuitry thought to underlie PTSD symptoms, which include anxiety, fear, hypervigialace, being easily upset and aroused, readiness for fight or flight, and the indelible encoding of intense emotional memories. Vietnam vets with PTSD, one study found, had 40% fewer catecholamine-stopping receptors than did men without the symptoms - suggesting that their brains had undergone a lasting change, with their catecholamine secretion poorly controlled.

Other changes occur in the circuit linking the limbic brain with teh pituitary gland, which regulates release of CRF, the main stress hormone the body secretes to mobilize the emergency fight-or-flight response. The changes lead this hormone to be oversecreted - particularly in the amygdala, hippocampus, and locus ceruleus - alerting the body for an emergency that is not there in reality.

As Dr Charles Nemeroff, a Duke University psychiatrist, told me, "Too much CRF makes you overreact. For example, if you're a Vietnam vet with PTSD and a car backfires at the mall parking lot, it is the triggering of CRF that floods you with the same feelings as the original trauma: you start sweating, you're scared, you have chills and the shakes, you may have flashbacks. In people who hypersecrete CRF, the startle response is overactive... (more examples)

A third set of changes occurs in the brain's opiod system, which secretes endorphines to blunt the feeling of pain. It also becomes hyperactive. This neural circuit again involves the amygdala, this time in concert with a region in the cerebral cortex. The opiods are brain chemicals that are powerful numbing agents, like opium and other narcotics that are chemical cousins. When experienceing high levels of opiods ("the brain's own morphine") people have a hightened tolerance for pain - an effect that has been noticed by battlefield surgeons who found severely wounded soldiers needed lower doses of narcotics to handle thier pain than did civilians with far less serious injuries.

Something similar seems to occur in PTSD. Endorphin changes add a new dimension to the neural mix by reexposure to the trauma: a numbing of certian feelings. This appears to explaina set of "negative" psychological symptoms long noted in PTSD: anhedonia (the inability to feel pleasure) and a general emotional numbness, a sense of being cut off from life or from concern about others' feelings. Those close to such people may experience this indifference as a lack of empathy. Another possible effect may be dissasociation, includiong the inabillity to remember crutial minutes, hours, ore even days of the traumatic event.

The neural changes of PTSD also seem to make a person more suseptible to further traumatizing. A number of studies with animals have found that when they were exposed even to mond stress wehn young, they were far more vulnerable than unstressed animals to trauma-induced brain changes later in life (suggesting the urgent need to treat children with PTSD). This seems a reason that, exposed to the same catastrophe, one person goes on to develop PTSD and anoter does not: the amygdala is primed to find danger and when life presents it once again with real danger, its alarm rises to a higher pitch.

All these neural changer offer short-term advantages for dealing with the grim and dire emergencies that prompt them. Under duress, it is adaptive to be highly vigilant, aroused, ready for anything, impervious to pain, the body primed for sustained physical demands, and - for the moment - indifferent to what might otherwise be intensely disturbing events. These short-term advvantages, howerver, become lasting problems when the brain changes so that they become predispositions, like a car stuck in perpetual high gear. When the amygdala nd its connected brain regions tanke on a new setpoint during a moment of intense trauma, this change in excitability - this hightened readiness to trigger a neural hijacking - means all of life is on the verge of becoming an emergency, and even an innocent moment is suceptible to an explosion of fear run amok."
 
More From The Same Book

Reeducating The Emotional Brain

One of the most encouraging findings about PTSD came from a study of Holocaust survivors, about three quarters of whom were found to have active PTSD symptoms even half a century later. The positive finding was that a quarter of the survivors who once had been troubled by such symptoms no longer had them; somehow the natural events of their lives had counteracted the problem. Those who still has the symptoms showed evidence of the catecholamine-related brain changes typical of PTSD - but those who had recovered has no such changes. This finding, and others like it, hold out the promise that the brain changes are not indelible, and that people can recover from even the most dire emotional imprinting - in short, that the emotional circuitry can be reeducated. The good news, then, is that traumas as profound as thouse causing PTSD can heal, and the route to such a healing is through relearning.

One way this emotional healing seems to occur spontaneously - at least in children - is through games (that replay the trauma... sometimes with happy endings). These games, played over and over again, let the children relive the trauma safely, as play. This allows two avenues for healing: on the one hand, the memory repeats in a context of low anxiety, desensitizing it and allowing a nontraumatized set of responses to become associated with it. Another rout to healing is that, in their minds, children can magically give the tragedy another, better outcome... boosting their sense of mastery over that traumatic moment of helplessness.

Games like this are predictable in younger children who have been traumatized by such overwhelming violence. These macabre games in traumatized children were first noted by Dr. Lenore Terr, a child psychiatrist in San Francisco. (Several examples given in the book... different traumas and games... same benefit.)

While adults who have been though overwhelming trauma can suffer a psychic numbing, blocking out memory of or feeling about the catastorophe, children's psyches often handle it differently. They often become less numb to the trauma, Terr believes, because they use fantasy, play, and daydreams to recall and rethink their ordeals. Such voluntary replays of trauma seem to head off the need for daming them up in potent memories that can later burst through as flashbacks. If the trauma is minor... just once or twice might be enough. But if it's overwhelming, a child needs endless repetitions, replaying the trauma over and over again in a grim, monononous ritual.

One way to get a picture of the frozen amygdala is through art, which itself is a medium of the unconscious. The emotional brain is highly attuned to symbolic meanings and to the mode Freud called the "primary process": the messages of the metaphor, story, myth, the arts. This avenue is often used in treating traumatized children. Sometimes art can open the way for children to talk about a moment of horror that they would not dare speak of otherwise.

(More examples given in book).
 
Games like this are predictable in younger children who have been traumatized by such overwhelming violence. These macabre games in traumatized children were first noted by Dr. Lenore Terr, a child psychiatrist in San Francisco. (Several examples given in the book... different traumas and games... same benefit.)

My son was six when he went through his first bout of trauma. He did exactly as described above. He played extremely violent games both with toys and on video games. He still does to this day. He does have PTSD however his is much more manageable then mine ever was at his age. :) I was told by a social worker when he was around 9 or 10 to just let him play them. So I have. It does seem to have helped although not entirely reduced the symptoms, just minimized them.

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What role do you think Denial plays for adults with ptsd?

Could the 're-playing' of the event/trauma also aid brain recovery?
 
The various parts of the brain that can and do shrink in size for various reasons, also can regrow to normal size just as fast. Some things in the brain can become permanent, some things are not. It is like losing functional short term memory, where by exposure, ie. reading books, you can actually grow functional aspects of your brain which increases your short term memory, memory storage, ability to recall memories, and a long list of things. These aspects if not used get lazy, or shrink. Expose your brain to trauma, same effect.

Use them at any time and there are plenty of studies proving that you can regrow these aspects once again into fully functional "normal" parts of the brain. Whilst trauma can shrink certain aspects, relearning techniques and methods can just as fast regrow them. The problem with PTSD is not the decreased size in various brain parts, but the chemical imbalance that takes effect between hemispheres. That is the part they cannot undo to date. Medication is an attempt to rebalance, but its success rate varies person to person and often the body rejects foreign matters after some time. Not even medication to date can provide anything close to even a 30% success rate.

This is why exposure therapy has one of the highest long term beneficial ratings of all techniques for trauma recovery.
 
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