Is It A Full Moon For Stupid Ptsd Diagnoses?

[anthony]

Official looking websites like this convince the cheatee

And the problem with those, is that they're a religious based effort deliberately negating the criterion A requirement for PTSD, so people read that shit and go tick, tick, tick, yep, I got PTSD from my cheating spouse. Arghhhhhhhhh...

 

[Dana1010]

Infidelity is a big sore one for me when people claim it. It wasn't my first husband's infidelity that was traumatic. It was that on discovery he beat me unconscious and bloody and left for three days with no transportation and access to money in a place where I didn't know anybody and he went and got a loaded shot gun and it went off in the hallway as he was coming back to me to shoot me because HE was f'ing around.... that was traumatic.

I don't want to derail, but I just have to say, wow. I had a narcissist boyfriend before who was a huge cheater, and if you really wanted to see him lose it? Just present him with a smoking gun. I saw the same thing happen with another couple where the man was a narc and a cheater. Lies, lies, lies, and as soon as he's caught--game over. Was your ex a narcissist/sociopath? If this is a thing with them, I think it's important for people who may be dealing with one to know that presenting proof might put them in danger.

 

[anthony]

Think of cyber bullying, stalking, death threats, leaked nudes and continued harassment, things like that, and you easily have how that can be traumatic for people.

Trauma does not equal PTSD, and people need to get that burned into their brain. Trauma equals about 100+ possible diagnostic outcomes... PTSD is purely reserved for the worst of the worst outcomes.

If people want to tie PTS with such things... sure, because its normal to have symptoms. But they should stop before the disorder part.

Symptom based mental health treatment is sending us backwards, not forwards, in relation to mental health diagnosis.

 

[Ronin]

Trauma does not equal PTSD, and people need to get that burned into their brain. Trauma equals about 100+ possible diagnostic outcomes... PTSD is purely reserved for the worst of the worst outcomes.

Not contradicting that at all, I was reacting solely to the line implying issues with internet abuse can't possibly lead to PTSD, not that trauma and any subsequent diagnoses are interchangeable.

 

[SeaQuel]

Symptom based mental health treatment is sending us backwards, not forwards, in relation to mental health diagnosis.

... and treatment. I couldn't agree more. And this is why it pisses me off so much to have quack therapists and doctors and/or the patient themselves attach "PTSD" to anything under the sun. This does nothing to help advance treatments for people who are truly trying to live with/manage their PTSD. Not to mention the societal and employment implications.

Traumatic experiences are just that.

 

[StarChild]

My goodness, peeps, I found even more such shit (no, unfortunately no flying faeces...) Just type in on google: ptsd from (And then type slowly through the letters of the whole alphabet). You won't believe what shit they claim! :mad:

Unfortunately I can't do print screens on this device. But how about ptsd from N (like nothing) or M (like movies) and so on...

 

[anthony]

Its a scary thought just how many hypochondriacs exist in the world... very scary.

 

[NarcSis]

PTSD is a media trend now and it's a double edged sword here in post middle-east war era society. While trying to educate and remove stigma most media outlets will neglect to get their facts straight and before you know it everyone has PTSD "to some extent".

Hell, I even watched a video on YouTube in my Adult Education course which likened workplace burnout to a "form of PTSD"! I sent the prof. a nasty email after that - like seriously!? Burnout!?

But this is where the public and GPs get their gross misinformation. Not every GP is necessarily a smart person, they just passed a bunch of tests.

Right now we have a huge push to de stigmatize mental health issues and PTSD in the first responder populations, is it any wonder the claims suddenly shot through the roof? Who wouldn't want a paid 6 week vacation? (And I got fired, while all these others are recovering and going back to work!?)

The current educational push is missing the mark and seems to be further stigmatizing those of us who just can't "snap out of this".

So yeah, completely ridiculous.

 

[unsungresonant]

As to my personal experience of having had my (former) wife cheat on me [exit affair] vs having my young son die suddenly. The former was at least slightly worse and took me longer to recover from. Being betrayed like that, in some situations, is surprisingly bad. Worse than I would have imagined beforehand.

 

[Deleted member 1860]

The former was at least slightly worse and took me longer to recover from.

Which happened first? It makes a difference. Do you have previous trauma? Or is your PTSD solely from losing your son? Cheating alone won't cause PTSD, and if the cheating took longer to recover from than your son dying (in the absence of no other trauma), I'd say you don't have PTSD. But that's JMHO.

 

[unsungresonant]

Which happened first? It makes a difference. Do you have previous trauma?

That's a good point. My son died first, about 4 or 5 years before. And I do have trauma before that, unfortunately.

 

[Chava]

Sorry for your losses @unsungresonant . Grief and trauma are different (though sometimes connected), but grief can take a very long time. It can feel like something is really wrong with us, but grief is simply difficult and it's hard to know when it will end or how the course will go for any individual. Previous losses or trauma can make any of it harder too. I've had a couple big losses in recent years and the emptiness doesn't go away any time soon...doesn't help that I'm programmed to numb out so easily.

A good friend of mine had her life turned upside down by her cheating husband. There was no fast recovery. Many parts of her life remained difficult, including depression, inability to trust, and disruptions in her identity (common but not fundamentally disorganizing unless dredging up earlier trauma or an undeveloped self). Symptoms of grief and betrayal. Survival responses weren't thrown into perpetual overdrive. That's the main difference, as I see it.