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Relationship Is It The Ptsd, Or Him?

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Innordinate, I am deeply hurt by your words. I am already struggling with trying to reassure myself that I have done nothing wrong to deserve this and then you jump on here and say that it is my fault, that I was "asking for it." Do you have any idea how devistating that is? That's like telling a rape victim that they were asking for that, too. I didn't ask for my husband to find other outlets. When we married, we agreed to have an open relationship. To find solice in each other. So what you have said is that I am in no way good enough for him and that just by being me, I asked for him to cheat. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

And as for a cry for help, yes I am asking for help. For help to understand and possibly be able to forgive. But I can't help "fix" anything until he is ready to really talk. And so far, he's not.

And BloomInWinter, thanks.
 
Well, sorry... but maybe you have done wrong. I don't know. I don't really know you're whole situation.

All I'm saying is... give the guy a chance to explain before condemning him for cheating.

And I totally disagree. It's not like telling a rape victim that they were asking for it. Maybe, just perhaps, it's not about you.
 
To me, now, it seems like you're looking for a reason to not trust your husband. To get rid of him. Well, there you go. You gave it to yourself. Either act on it or not, but I don't think it's fair that you go around sentencing a guy for nothing.

I knew a woman who was convinced her husband was cheating on her. So much that she kept asking, and asking and asking and asking and asking a nd asking and asking until he got fed up and said he was. He wasn't. Neither of them benefited from her lack of trust or willingness to have a real discussion.

Good luck.

You came on here, not looking for anything but verification about what you were already thinking. I'm sad about that.
 
Harsh, but so untrue. I came on here because I'm new to the PTSD world and didn't know if this was a by-product of the condition. And certainly not to be berated by others! But I guess that comes with the territory, too.

But since finding out about it, he has cut connections with the women and the sites that led to them. I don't go snooping. I hate it. How many times do I have to repeat that? I trust him that what he's done is the truth and that there are no other affairs. WE are dealing with it. But again, I can't do anything unless he is willing to talk. And he's not. So it's a awaiting game.

I thank you for your opinions. You have a right to them.
 
As someone who has been cheated on several times, I hope no one minds if I put in my .02.

Thrills and adrenalin are addictive, which is always part of starting a physical or emotional intimacy with someone other than your partner, provided you have a conscience which the thrill of doing wrong is stemming from.

Any form of intimacy, either physical or emotional, that is had with one other than your partner is, in my view, cheating. Intimacy is between two people, and unless you are responsible enough to state that your intimate needs are not being fulfilled, before proceeding with the third party, your actions are selfish, unfair, and smack of a view of hopelessness regarding the situation.

Both times I have been cheated on have been for totally different reasons.

1. my first experience was because my then partner was bored, wanted sex, and because I was too damaged from the last bout of rape/sex, he went and screwed my best friend/work colleague.
I walked in on it, and was told to either join in and 'suck it' or get out and leave him in peace.

Was that my fault that he cheated??

2. I was assaulted by a work colleague, and 2 months later, PTSD set in with a vengeance. 4 months later I broke down in the middle of sex with my beloved, and begged him not to hurt me......he was shattered that I would think that he would hurt me.
Long story short, his sex drive had been suppressed, and once he started dating me, it boomed, and his whole body underwent a physical hormonal change, sex was abruptly cut off, and he started going out of his mind with physical lust.

After 6 months, during which he fought really hard not to pester me, I realised that something had to be done, he couldn't concentrate, he couldn't drive safely, his work was being affected and his fuse had been shortened to the length of a bee's dick.
I suggested going to a rub and tug massage to help him, but he came home 30min later and sobbed into my arms that he had lost control during the massage, and penetrated the girl.

Was that my fault too?

4 months ago, my partner and I found out that his brother had been cheating on his wife for 16 out of the 18 months he had been married, and the mistress is now pregnant.
It had started because the wife(chinese) had gone back to china for a few months at a time for business/family, and he had decided to find himself an oncall booty.

He packed up his clothes while she was away, and told her that he was going out for drinks and would be back. He told her that he had left a note for her in her handbag.

He never came back, but instead went to his mistress' place.
We got a call at 6am from her, distraught on the phone, saying that she had a note from him, and he had never come back.

Was that her fault?

Inordinate, yes, it may be true that the partner in this thread who was/is cheating had unfullfilled needs, BUT, it is HIS responsibility to state that those needs are not being met, and allow change to occur, being it a repair of the relationship or a split.

But it is NOT the woman's fault that he chose to keep his mouth SHUT and his zipper OPEN and take the coward's way out by being intimate with a third party online.

The responsibility lies first and foremost to the original commitment, the partner, when all else has failed, then, and only then, do you find a third party, who, realistically, has now become the 'partner' for the purposes of intimacy.

This entire forum states EVERYWHERE that it is NOT your fault that you were abused, assaulted, raped, beaten.....whatever horrid thing happened.....we are ALL free of the ownership of guilt for another's actions, as they were ANOTHER'S actions, NOT our own.

We can only be responsible for ourselves, and our own actions.

This is why I agree that you do owe an apology, not for pointing out that the partner had unfullfilled needs, but that you have laid the blame at the door of someone who was not given an opportunity to right a wrong, or attempt to fix something.

The reason why she was not given that opportunity, she may have contributed to, but ultimately it is his actions, not hers, and therefore the blame is laid squarely on him for his lack of maturity and guts to fix the problem(s).

One last thing,

I think that Darcy's replies have been incredibly mature and forgiving, although I have an inkling that on the inside, on the other side of the computer screen, she is quite hurt by the lack of support and the blame laid at her door, so here is a very big hug, and cuddle, to you, Darcy, and keep your head up girlfriend. :hug::inlove:
 
You came on here, not looking for anything but verification about what you were already thinking.

It is not rational for you to believe you can read her mind through the Internet, much less so that you could travel back in time to read her thoughts when she first posted. You are condeming her for things you imagine she is thinking. That's not fair to do to any person, but especially a new member.

Attacking a new member is unkind, unhelpful, and adds nothing to the discussion.

I hope you'll check your own motives for why this has upset you so much. Perhaps your posts weren't about Darcy's situation at all, but something else?

Either way, I hope you'll leave her alone on this thread and allow the discussion to get back on track. You've expressed strong opinions on why internet cheating isn't cheating....why not start you own interesting thread about that, which people would respond to, I bet?
 
BloomInWinter, I do wish you would get out of my head, I don't remember renting space out to you!!!!!
I was thinking the same thing, but really didn't want to say it.

But seriously, spot on.

Inordinate, you are entitled to your opinion, however I think Darcy may be looking for constructive advice and assistance, rather than opinions.
I'm sure that your life experience has given you many valuable insights, and they may well be useful here, and in saying that, I would like to respectfully request some of your insights which may help Darcy cope, recouperate, and move forward with her best course of action.

Love and Understanding

Bubzie
 
Bubzie, Bloom, you guys rock!

Thanks for the huggles, Bubzie. I so needed them.

Update: After all the drama on this thread, I asked my husband what his motives were. He said he was just messing around, and let it get too far. He also said he wouldn't do it again. I believe him. So that's that!

Oh, yes, my husband does know about this thread. I felt it was important for him to know.
 
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