Is the human species greedy, negative, ignorant, violent and destroying the planet?

[Tornadic Thoughts]

I struggle with this one, too, rather often, most especially thanks to the multiple chemical sensitivities I deal with daily, among other things. I don't just see products anymore, I see processes and feel ALL the feels (and smell ALL the damn smells) that goes with each and every one, and when I see how blindly things are consumed and destroyed in the process of literally poisoning ourselves, it leaves a huge mark on my heart.

Some days, I wish I could unsee all I've learned, experienced, and lived, but deep down I'm glad I know what I know now so I can do my best to make choices that I can better live with in the only space I truly have any control over. Easier said than done, still, especially when the emotional attachments are strong.

Being a canary in the coal mine of life is quite often a shitty gig. I try to look at me choosing to drop some knowledge along the way sort of the same as the little canary dropping bird poo along it's journey. There's likely to be at least a few seeds in that poo that take root and grow from there. I don't think we'll ever have to worry about a shortage of fertilizer.

 

[mumstheword]

We are all skewed by way of the media. It's mostly very negative. Corporate powers that be could choose cleaner, greener tech but there's the stakeholders profit margins and CEO's bonus to consider.There are very greedy selfish humans that, unfortunately, hold a lot of money strings and power positions.

There are still more struggling, disempowered, ignorant and muddling humans, some utterly brilliant ones and many of us are combinations of plenty of the above (bar being a part of the 1%, the Bilderburgers or the Rothchilds and other corporate masterminds).

Misandry is pretty useless, in my book.
Study, investigation, education, compassion, insight, details rather than generalisations, far more useful to my mind.

I don't feel like a disgusting, greedy ape, I try so hard to be a compassionate, proactive, environmentally responsible, altruistic and apply the do-no-harm principle, but there is only so much I can humanly do and I feel like I do what I can and I see beauty and complexity and creativity and courage and ingenuity and kindness in humans everyday.

Also, I do think we are a pretty immature and bewildered bunch, but I see hope for us, maybe only a faint glimmer, but I feel better having that, than not. Maybe I'm deluded, I don't know ...
Maybe it's really about you @Sophy? You're projections, wounds, fears, guilts, sense of inadequacy and past experiences?
After all, we can all only change ourselves. It's not easy, but we are only responsible for our own behaviours and attitudes. Maybe you are disgusted at your lack of response to our current state of environmental crisis'? And/or suffer deep misandry and are disgusted at your not-loving attitude toward your own species?

We are a messy, chaotic, confused, overwhelmed and diverse bunch, us humans, but I think we are fascinating and astounding and resilient and insanely innovative and unpredictable and (mostly) empathetic and well-intentioned,; it's a pity about the over-rich money horders and power-crazy puppeteers, the deceitful and narcissistic, the shallow materialists and fanatics, the "I-don't-want-to-know ignorance, the fundamentalists and politically power hungry, they make us all look bad.

Mostly we are a myriad of shades of light and dark, not all good or all bad, just an intelligent and overly successful species that is easily mislead and prone to jumping to erronous conclusions based on too little information and we take too long to mature and are too quick to decline and maybe too fecund (especially the poor, I'm guilty of that).

 

[Tracee]

Yes.

 

[Abstract]

Best I don't say anything further on this thread tonight.

 

[joeylittle]

Some humans, yes. Maybe even half the population. Maybe less, maybe more.

The entire species? No. There are humans that exist, living in symbiosis with their environment, largely having the same relationships to the planet as their ancestors did.

And, there are communities and cultures that well-balanced enough to largely maintain peace and order among themselves.

I know that such places and peoples are in the minority. But they do exist, and they demonstrate (I think) that the human species is not incapable of living a neutral- or even positive-impact life.

 

[Abstract]

here are humans that exist, living in symbiosis with their environment, largely having the same relationships to the planet as their ancestors did.

I have to admit that what Joey has to say here was hovering way off in the back of my mind and I chose not to look there. It relates to the caring about the rest of the world aspect of behaviour. It seems it is possible for human communities to do that. Unfortunately belief wise I don't believe that it means there isnt the usual manipulation abuse etc by some in these communities towards other humans or animals. But it would disprove the "every single human being is selfish or evil" mindset.

 

[Psychotic]

Recently joined, started to browse through things and this really caught my eye.

Since the trauma ive lost all faith in hummanity, very synical ect. I agree, i believe humans should be wiped out, we are the destroyers of everything. I understand that not every single person is bad, but easily the majority are, and speaking generally, we are a cancer on this planet. Often people are shocked if we ever touched on the topic and they heard my opinion.

Is this a strange thought process? But i also believe im 100% correct, history speaks for itself.

 

[Deleted member 47099]

Is this a strange thought process?

Dunno... :)

I guess trauma does show us a negative side of humanity, that most people either aren't exposed to directly, or which they want to be in denial about. Trauma makes it hard to be in denial about the negative stuff.

Tho, trauma probably makes us focus *more* on the negative stuff, than on the positive stuff, which is kinda a skewed way of looking at things too.

Either way, I think "what our brain believes" matters - irrespective of whether it's true/ false/ weird/ unhelpful.

So looking at it can be an important first step. And if it seems like an unhelpful/ untrue belief, there's ways of changing old beliefs.

This "humans are bad for the planet" and "humans are the worst species" stuff are certainly core beliefs of mine too.

Probly like all things in life, it's partly true and partly untrue?

 

[Friday]

I think it’s weird that people who were abused think murdering children would be great :tup:

 

[Deleted member 47099]

Not entirely sure that's what was said.

But hey, lots of things are weird.

Especially with PTSD.

 

[Psychotic]

Clearly not what was said, you obviously lack the perception to understand.

Also why people keep things to themselves, and the whole 'itsoktotalk' is bullshit. cause narrow minded people like you dont understand and take things out of context

f*ck this site anyway put me off already

 

[Friday]

Actually, you said it right here

i believe humans should be wiped out,

And it was implied elsewhere (as what does one do with cancer? You cut it out, irradiate it, kill it.

We're like a cancer on the planet.

That means murdering every child on the planet. Every newborn baby, every kid on a swing, every student in school. From diapers to first drivers licenses. As a start.

I don’t understand how that doesn’t just make one’s brain screech to a halt that maaaaaaaybe the idea that it’s everyone? Or even most? Might just be totally wrong.

On paper it looks ridiculous that I’m mad so I’m going to go kill kids.
But burn the world, humans should be wiped out, people are a cancer, etc. makes sense to a lot of people. The whole emotional reasoning thing. Just because it feels true? Doesn’t make it true. So what are the actual logistics of wiping out the human race? Well. Okay. Let’s line the kindergarten classes up against the wall and shoot them? Or just lock them in a building a burn them, maybe? Cold dose of reality, IMO.