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Childhood Keep Getting Urge To Talk About Two Weird Memories

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purpleswirled

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These aren't false memories but something I always remembered. They are odd because neither of them are memories which would seem to most people particularly life scarring but for some reason they keep bothering me (not all th etime but intermittently).

Memory 1/ i say memory, but I admit some of this scenario was filled in by family members- I can remember very little about some aspects of it. I was 5 years old. Apparently according to my parents and a teacher at school I one day blurted out something about my father touching my private parts. I said he had shoved his fingers up me. For the record, my father would never do something like that. His abuse of me never jhas been sexual in any way. Welll, i don't remember telling the teacher but I remeber what happened next. I was taken to this room in a police station and this police doctor took m y underwear down and laid me on a table. I don't remember why I was there. I just remember them putting something up me like a speculum. i didn't know why it was happening but i remmeber being afraid i was going to be scolded because i ahd a problem with soiling my underwear due to constipation and my father often made fun of me and shamed me when it happened. I just remember feeling terrible shame lying there on that table. I remember afterwards my mum scolding me for telling lies. We went home. I remember feeling I never wanted to remember this day again and I had no memory of it until my teens. My sister remembers we had to see a child psychologist at that time ans she said that fater the examiniation i became very clingy, angry, demanding and my shy personality changed into someone very aggressive and acting out. I could never use tampons, have sex or a smear test without my body tensing up. I avoided sex and smears because of the pain. My father often brings up the time when I accused him of raping me. i find it hard to believe I would claim such a thing had happened as i was a timid child and nervous of the schoolteacher who was a shouty, scary woman. But i accept that my father is angry and hurt- he has a right to be. he had always been invalifdating and abusive but after this he refused to believe anything i said and constantly told me to shut up if i tried to speak.

2/ Age 10, I was being bullied again at school quite badly. One day after school my mum was late picking me up, and I went back into the classroom as I had forgotten my homework. So i went in and there were 2 boys and a girl in my class there. They started asking me to take off my knickers for them. I refused. they said if i didn't they would lock me in the stationary cupboard- they knew i was claustrophobic- so i told them i preferred the cupboard but after a while i panicked and promised to let them take my clothes off. I was thinking i would promise and make a run for it. Then the two lads pushed me tp the floor and pinned me down. the girl, my best friend helped. I remember thinking, why is she helping them if she my friend? I fought back but they got my pants off. Nothing happened they just looked at me nad laughed. I remember the humiliation again and I'm ashamed to say i cried hysterically. Stupidly I went home and told my mum. My clothes were dishevelled and i was bruised between my legs. I made my mum swear never to tell my father or the school.
Next day i find my mother had told the school. The headteacher gave me a lecture on lying and tol dme not to flirt with the boys. Us girls used to have a game where we would lift our skirt sfor tyhe boys for a laugh. I think i cried for about 2 days. My mum had betrayed me and my friend.

My question is, i know neither of these things are sexual abuse or anything close to it but I feel like somehow these things have affected me. I look back at my childhood and see so many signs that would be symptomatic of sexual abuse and still have those effects now- can't trust men, feel dirty, excessive masturbation, fears of medical examinations, sex, childbirth etc. I feel a bit bad comparing my experiences to actual sexual abuse but every now nad then I will read a news story about a child being abused and my reaction sof anger and distress are extreme. I definitely had psychological and verbal abuse from my father and my home was a violent place. So maybe I am using thes eincidences to cover the traum aregarding my father?
 
periodically something wil remind me of this and i feel a need lately to talk about this...The awful thing is, I have always felt a kind of envy regarding people who really have sexual abuse issues- I know that is a horrible thing to say- because I feel so much like I really was sexually abused, Because of the effects of the above. Though my father did do some ministry work in the church with depressed people and som eof these were incest survivors. he always had time for these women and were very compassionate to them. If i was sick or hurting though i'd get "Shut up! you are a nuisance.liar.attention seeker, get out of my effing face." So some of these feelings might be jealousy speaking. For all people on here who have been sexually assaulted I want to say I know this is sick of me and very selfish- and I'm sorry. If i had gone through real rape I am sure I wouldn't envy you but i envy the attention my father gave peopl elike you because he never bothered with me much.I'm sorry.
 
I know Memory 1/ paints me in a bad light but i was 5 years old and didnt mean it. i think i had my dad put some ointment on my eczema ( i did have it down there) and so assumed he was touching me. I know i would not have lied on purpose. i would have got confused. my dad says i did it to cause trouble but i would not have done that. 5 year olds don't know what lying means
 
I promise you that the second incident was sexual assault. 100%, no ambiguity, that was sexual assault and wasn't your fault. It's horrible they did that to you, and horrible that you were blamed for it.

The first memory is much more complicated. As far as you can remember you were lying. But you've also mentioned that you probably did experience CSA, so it's possible you were describing something that happened, but maybe getting details wrong. Regardless, you were five and said something, but your fathers reaction to it was NOT appropriate. He continued to shame and mock you for it. It was never okay for him to do that, or for him to mock you for incontinence. That was horrible, and you deserved better.
 
I wasn't lying deliberately. the teacher asked me if he touched me so i remembered the medicine incident and said yes....i don't remember the lies but my parents said i went round telling everyone that my dad stuck his fingers up my bum..he used to threaten to stick his fingers up there as a joke, apparently
 
He got me to behave my screaming at me. he would tell me he would stick his fingers up my bum if i didnt do x or y. i know that is not abuse but maybe my mind got confused...i always remember being scared of my father though.....i have trouble believing something didnt happen to me....maybe he physically or vaerbally abused me or something???? he did my sister and mother..and my sister claims she saw him, physically and verbally abusing me as a young child. but i have hardly any memories of my childhood at all. up until age 8 or 9
 
Hugs. He should never have joked about that.
thanks...i always had a sense that he abused me in ways that weren't sexual....my sister says she remebers witnessing him abusing me physically, mentally and verbally as a young child. my mother now admits she witnessed it too but says it wasn't real abuse and to "just forget it because verbal abuse doesn't count" my therapist reminds me of my mother so much...urgggh
 
You say "that's not abuse" a lot when you describe clear cases of abuse, Purple. What do you consi...
i consider abuse to be the same kind of behaviour as i described BUT the difference being that the mptives for it are not to discipline or punish the child. a lot of abuse i ahd from dad was when he was in a bad random mood but also he would do it when i had been naughty eg speaking at the dinner table, forgetting to say please or thank you, being unwell, not being able to do my schoolwo0rk - i had learning difficulties but my parents didn't believe in diagnosis because it would reflect badly on them.
i would switch off in class and zone off as though i was daydreaming. so i would get yelled at if i didnt get good marks because my dad said i was just daydreaming and pretending to have dyscalculia etc to get sympathy.
so took me ages to get diagnosed, i had to wait until adulthood...My father says i was a difficult kid and difficult kids needed to be punished. He was a nice dad sometimes. he just had these mood changes..he refused all medical help for them...wouldnt take lithium, even though depression runs in our family both sides...my dad was not a monster..he was nice as pie to people outside my family. he cared for people at church who were depressed or abused.
but when i was diagnosed with mental health issues he told me he would beat it out of me and thatr i was a shame on his family. he did same to my sister, threatening to dump us in care.
 
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