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General Kids With Ptsd?

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Watch that people who have bad intentions aren't around your son, I was quite innocent and just looking for a 'life raft' (and manipulated by people 20-30 years my senior).
I was also fortunate however, was (am) catholic, didn't go to church much in those 4 years but returned on my own, that continues to give me much strength.

Also, night sweats etc, were the pits. Also hypervigilance, so if there is some hobby that relaxes him/ he loves, that would be great, I recall loving dancing, painting, praying, having a dog helped also (I could tell him/ her everything).
xox

We are so careful about who he's with - I agree. The only people who watch him while we're gone are my parents and my sister.

Yes, yes, the hypervigilance. He cannot relax unless he's doing art, or listening to music. We're thinking about a dog but he's still violent with our cat sometimes so we're a little leary of that. Thank you for the suggestions and for sharing so much!
 
Hugs to you, your H and family- you are beautiful people.

I forgot re music, yes!!
I agree, re a dog.

I guess it also equates back to their personalities, plus traumas. I worried a lot (was aware of realities), but never said much what was going on.
Also his particular traumas.

xoxox
 
I'm glad you found us! My daughter (5) flies off at me too - although with her its not PTSD just the "hair trigger temper" she gets from her dad's side of the family (they are all like this). She was pissed off when she was born. I had a c-section and they handed her to her dad (that was fine.) Then to me (That was fine too) then the nurses took her and She Was Mad. H went with to do all their hospital stuff and he said they couldn't hand her back fast enough. She was a spitfire at minutes old:). Poor Nurses.

It does feel Just Awful though to have them attack, and even worse when it is a symptom of the PTSD and they can't really tell you what is going on in their head. What triggers him? Is he doing play therapy? Or do they do something else with PTSD kids?


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He is doing play therapy which has been so helpful. We are learning a great deal about this disorder and feeling more and more confident (at times) about parenting him. Triggers are large crowds, me telling him no - I usually try and distract or say no in another way, but even that can be devastating to him due to past abuse issues around saying no. Other triggers - consumption of food dyes, too much excitement - either good or bad...those are the biggies.

In addition to the play therapy, he does taekwondo, we do lots of nurturing type activities that you would do with a much younger child, rhythmic movement, etc. Also try to do lots of art and since we home school he goes to an art class.
 
I guess, it depends on what the trauma was that your son when through. I think that most people think, when a child is angry, they need to stop them right away. But emotions are how we learn to deal with things. Maybe, doing the opposite would help, like getting one of those blow up punching bags, so that he can get his feeling out in a healthy way.

Kids, don't really know how to deal with feelings, and they don't know what they mean, they just have them. So getting the feeling out in a healthy way can be quite therapeutic. I never had a pet, wasn't allowed, but in my teens, the neighbours dog became my best friend, and I would talk to it about everything.

I withdrew from other kids, I did not like getting singled out, did not like getting laughed at, did not like getting into trouble. I didn't have friends. I would sit and imagine my own world a lot. I figured no one wanted me for a friend, and friends just got me into trouble so I was better off without them. When badly triggered and scared, I would pee myself, which resulted in being laughed at. I did not like that.

So, the earliest age I remember isolating was really that young. I did want friends, but it was not safe to have them. My teachers were no support, they just treated me like a kid, I wasn't a kid any more. I had worked out that at a young age, I was not loved or unsupported, or cared for and I was forced to suppressed everything - so adults did not know anything, and I kicked at them because they did not realise that I knew more than them about the real world...

((((ptsd sufferer))) thank you so much for sharing! This is making so much sense that our child is not alone!

Yes, he's the same. Wants friends but definitely not safe yet to have them. The therapist described it like this: babies learn to regulate eating, sleeping etc and learn to trust their parents, then MUCH later make friends. Our boy hasn't gotten the first three things down yet, so he's not ready for social skill work.

Anytime someone laughs, he seems to feel like they're making fun of him - even if he has done something to purposefully make someone laugh.

He at times seems very grown up and insightful which can be really good but also can be a trigger for him. Like you said, I think he realizes more than what we think and it can be irritating to him for us to realize that.

Did you feel like you wanted to control your parents? He wants to be in control at all times - so as not to get hurt, I'm sure. It has not sunk in for him yet that we are not like the birth family and we will not hurt him. So he doesn't trust that yet and is frustrated that we control his life to a certain extent (keeping him safe, etc.). We give him as much control as is safe for him emotionally and physically, but he wants to control what we do, even to the point of telling us when we should brush our teeth, when and what we should eat, how we should walk...it goes on and on.
 
Hugs to you, your H and family- you are beautiful people.

I forgot re music, yes!!
I agree, re a dog.

I guess it also equates back to their personalities, plus traumas. I worried a lot (was aware of realities), but never said much what was going on.
Also his particular traumas.

xoxox

So do you think if he's violent with a cat he might be different with a dog? We're open to getting one but have held off because of this. I think dogs can definitely be therapeutic but our cat is very sweet and cuddly too...just wondering what your thoughts are.
 
Did you feel like you wanted to control your parents? He wants to be in control at all times - so as not to get hurt, I'm sure. It has not sunk in for him yet that we are not like the birth family and we will not hurt him. So he doesn't trust that yet and is frustrated that we control his life to a certain extent (keeping him safe, etc.). We give him as much control as is safe for him emotionally and physically, but he wants to control what we do, even to the point of telling us when we should brush our teeth, when and what we should eat, how we should walk...it goes on and on.

Yes, you are right. Even to this day, I need to be in control (of me). Sometimes, when our confidence is shot, we need to be the ones to make decisions, because a lot of the time, the decision were taken away from us, and those decision hurt us. This rings true with most of my life, even into adulthood. I don't like anyone else even trying to control me or my life. But once confidence is rebuilt, it is not as painful taking the lead from others.

As a child, I often bossed my doll around, saying that is not the way to do things, and showing my doll how to do things the 'right' way. My parents were the controllers, and I never had the opportunity to control anything in my life (until I was in my 30s and walked away from them), hence controlling the doll and overly controlling myself.

Looking back on it as an adult, we need to control our own life. I don't generally control others, because I know what it is like to be controlled and have my right to choose taken away from me.

But there are times when we (the proverbial) 'try' to control others in our life to compensate for things not being 'right' in our own lives. When we 'try' to control others in our life, it is often because we are trying to compensate for not having the 'perfect' life or the 'fairy tale' we read in stories. We spend a lot of time trying to perfect everything around us, because if it is perfect then there is no cause for getting hurt (not logically true, but often the reason anyone does anything isn't logical but emotional). This is the protecting from getting hurt idea you mention.

Children do need to respect parents, and understand boundaries. They need to know that these boundaries are there because you love them and want to protect them. Sometimes we kick at boundaries because we want to test how far we can go without 'pi$$ing' adults off. This sometimes can be misunderstood as a gauge of love, and that is unhealthy behavior. Because love is not how much someone puts up with...so managing these behaviors (if you suspect this may be the case) is a good thing.

It must be hard to know how far to push when a child has suffered a trauma. But, just do what you would with any child, and that includes setting boundaries and being tough about keeping them safe. And, do what you are currently doing and let him make some decisions for himself. Or put it on a roster of who gets to decide what you eat that night, so that he knows sometimes he can make decisions, and sometimes you can. If he knows that there is an opportunity for him to make a decision coming up, then maybe there will be less anxiety when you make decisions for him.

Keep doing what you are doing. Know your son is lucky to have you in his life - someone who cares so much to be here on this forum looking for support, understanding and information can't go wrong in my books. And, maybe try to build his confidence as much as you can within the boundaries of safety. Occasionally doing something silly so he knows that he is not the only one being laughed at, might help if he can learn to laugh with you.

Bless you and your family for caring for your son.
 
Can only be quick - but dog's are different - and bigger and stronger - Some breeds are nearly impervious to pain (labs, akitas and the "bully breeds" Staffy's etc) and so do particularly well with kids who can be rough. (I am amazed at what our girl dishes out to our dogs, and they just stand there with that goofy look on their faces!) They are also good (much better than cats) at teaching that with authority goes responsibility. When you tell a dog to sit you are taking Total Responsibility for his safety and security while he is on "sit."...

Ooops, gotta go.
 
Love the idea about the roster of who gets to decide dinner for that night. I do ask him for some meal ideas throughout the week and he is involved in deciding ingredients, etc. but that may not be real time enough for him. And the doing something silly ourselves - my husband is much better about that than I am, being more silly natured than I. :-)

Yeah, good points regarding the dog. I think we'll be rehashing this and seeing if maybe a dog might fit into our upcoming plans.

Whew! I am so thankful I found this forum and for the openness you all have shown. :inlove:
 
No, I definitely would not get him a dog- at least not yet, if he is 'torturing' the cat.

Dogs are VERY aware of feelings (their's and ours), and know if they are intentionally harmed. Not to mention that won't help either party one bit. Also, they may retaliate, even just to stop the harm.

Also, they are much responsibilty.

xox
 
I don't know him, but from personal past, especially for things like "no" and such, idk, maybe start learning a different language with him, not spanish tho :p, and forts, most lil guys love forts, and building things. Like legos (or since he's so young, one of the bigger versions), that will give him TONS of building chances, and you can use new sets/packs as a reward system

(I'm foreseeing art being thrown up in opposition to legos, but there's room for both, and you can't draw/paint but maybe you can sculpture the complexes you can build with legos :p)
 
Legos are a good distraction for adult women and little girls too ;) I loved the 'mechanic' sets when I was kid (and also art). Although I am unsure as to how to change a flat in adulthood despite learning how to use one of those spanner things...you know the things that turn the knob things on the screw, but not a washer...nuts :p
 
Oh yeah, he loves legos and his therapist recommends lots of building. He also helps his daddy with some projects around the house.

Oh, and something else he has latched onto lately - you know the Little Tikes toys - the ones with the little people who fit into various vehicles, etc? He LOVES those and has played out so many familial scenarios. It's amazing to watch.
 
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