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I recently ended things with my sufferer who is untreated and unwilling to seek support. He predictably began reaching out again, saying he would do whatever it takes for us to be together, including starting therapy and even going to church. I wanted to believe him, I did. But then when we talked a little more yesterday, he went back on everything he said, saying he will do what he can when he can in his own time, and I should just be patient with the process, not be "stubborn", and work with him. Unfortunately, I've tried this approach multiple times before, and this little song and dance just lands us back in the same spot every time. I'm so sick of the empty promises or hearing him say just enough of what he thinks I want to hear to get my attention with really no intention of any follow through. What's my next best move, if anything?
 
I don't think you should give up on somebody you love. You may also be the only thing he has to hold on to. I personally hold on for the people I love. If it were not for my girlfriend and our kids I would be dead. I don't particularly enjoy living and dealing with this shit. It wears you down. Most of us just want to be happy and our trying to put what has happened to us behind. Hard to talk about things you want to put to rest to some therapists. I don't know what the answer or if there really is an answer to the problem. But, I don't think isolation will do anything but harm. Just try to be patient and persistent and let them know you love them. This gives the person a reason to keep fighting. I got my first anger management class today and I was not going to go. Don't want to go. But i'm doing it anyway because my girlfriend wants me to. I love her so much and I don't want to lose her so I will do what ever she wants me too because I don't think I can make it without her. Anyway just think about it.
 
As long as you keep going back after he doesn't do what he says he will...he won't. Stand your ground. Tell him once he has established actual therapy and maybe the church attendance has has promised THEN you can start over with him but not UNTIL then.
 
We teach people how to treat us. Because, "I've tried this approach multiple times before, and this little song and dance just lands us back in the same spot every time. I'm so sick of the empty promises or hearing him say just enough of what he thinks I want to hear to get my attention with really no intention of any follow through", is exactly the reason why space and distance are necessary. What he's learned is if he says the right things, you'll be back, and back and back again. And he's got fact based evidence to support his conclusion about this.

Old recovery adage - the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results. To get different results, you need to endeavor to do the more difficult thing and set boundaries, defend them cuz they will be tested, and be willing to stand your position on the dynamic come what may. He'll come round and understand that this is unacceptable and will be tolerated no longer or hel'll go his own way and find someone who will... BUT, if your sick of empty promises and really want the dynamic to change... you got to do something different and apply it evenly and consistently and conscientiously.
 
Thank you all for your insights. What in your opinions would prevent someone from getting help if not doing so meant costing them their relationship?
 
Thank you all for your insights. What in your opinions would prevent someone from getting help if not doing so meant costing them their relationship?
Themselves.
They need to be ready to do the work for their own mental health. How can they work to build and maintain a relationship, when they are unable or unwilling to rebuild and maintain their own heads?

Therapy cannot be done for the benefit of the other person, it's not going to work. If the only reason I was willing to drag myself into a shrink's office, was to only prevent being dumped. It wouldn't be too long before my significant other figured out that nothing is changing about my behaviour. The fact that I was willing to throw hundreds or even thousands of dollars into the garbage, to go sit and make small talk for a couple hours a week. Just to fleece my partner into well... Lip service.

It would just become another lie from me. My intention would not be to hurt my partner, just keep them happy enough not to leave me. I wouldn't mean to hurt them, or to play them for a fool. But that's exactly what I'd be doing. It would also mean that I have so little respect for myself, that the concept of it has become so alien to me I can't even give it to the person I claim to love so much. I would become the very kind of person who I find disgusting. Respectable people don't lie to their partners and manipulate them to get what they want.

If I could ask myself. What would I think if my partner were to begin a new relationship with someone else that acts the same way I do. Would I be okay with that persons behaviour?
If the answer is no, then I can't subject them to an endless barrage of emotional baggage.

If I were to want to become the person worthy of being in that relationship, I need to get help. In which case I'll be able to prove it sometime in the furture. Or I won't.

For your guy? It's put up or shut up time.
 
Out of curiosity, what makes you suggest space?
In an attempt to break what seems to be a cycle of "empty promise...

We teach people how to treat us. Because, "I've tried this approach multiple times before, and this little song and dan...

I'm sorry, I'm attempting to post from a mobile phone when I'm usually on a desktop so I don't know what's happening to my posts. I'll log on with my...
 
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So, I'm having the same problem, but w/o having left....
My SO left me after cheating and then we got back together. There were all the same promises
Any sufferers have any advice on how to handle this without being just, uh, I guess mean and spiteful.
I'm starting to feel pretty angry
 
So, I'm having the same problem, but w/o having left....
My SO left me after cheating and then we got back together. The...
Be careful. I know we are hard to live with but we are also vulnerable and an easy target for people to take advantage of. Hard to believe but a lot of people have narcissistic qualities and feed of the pain of others. What easier of a target can they have than someone with PTSD. We have all the guilt, self hate, insecurity etc.., to provide a endless supply of emotional pain and suffering to these people. We are ripe for the pickings and easy to spot. If you even think the person your with is a narcissist and yes they are real and abundant in supply you better cut ties and run as far away as you can. They will try and finish you off and there is no changing or fixing them.
 
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