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Right I'm not very good at this sort of thing. I left the British army 2012 after another tour of Afghanistan, I haven't felt the same since. At first I just assumed it was readjustment 1 from ops and two from military life, so I just cracked on with my new job, friend and family. Ignoring how I feel, waking up in the night in a bath of sweat, not so much with flash backs but with an overwhelming feeling of doubt and anxiety. I started going out with the boys drinking abit more, which led to me taking illegal substances with them. For a while I didn't see anything wrong with it I felt great! But this weekend I come to the realization, that I've pushed most of my friends away, I'm not going out anymore I'm staying in drinking and doing drugs and I haven't thought anything bad about it. But I have noticed the lack of communication skills I've been developing (for someone who thought he had the gift of the gab) first with strangers, then with my family and finally this weekend I couldn't even bring myself to talk to friends I had a overwhelming feeling of anxiety when talking to them. I couldn't find myself interspersed in anything they talk about (I have found it hard to find common ground for years). Anyway I've come to the realization that I have a problem with other underlying issues. I've decided I need to come clean to my family about everything my feelings, my drink and drug problems. But I am not sure how to go about doing it, I was hoping I could get some advice, from anyone who's been in a similar position?
 
Glad you were brave enough to seek help, and reveal the difficulties you've been having. I have great admiration for any Veteran, especially those who have risked their lives so selflessly, for the highest of ideals-placing the welfare of others above one's own. Many give lip service of such daily, or casual gestures...very few actually prove it, as you've done. That's not said nearly enough, and I've never been able to understand why...it's as though the average citizen thinks of military service, even combat duty,as "just another job"...and as the individual's duty. Well it's not, and however uncomfortable it may be to think about, that's no excuse for not doing so far more often.

I actually think the "average person's" attitude even bleeds into that of those who've served. I mean, I understand that those who've done so are exactly the types not to call attention to themselves as heroic, after all...but I guess it's difficult not to take on the consensus opinion of others, under any circumstances, if only unconsciously, as that seems to be just how us humans are built...we don't want to be apart from the norm, after all. But I think when it comes to this subject, that can be one of the greatest dangers. In other words, the problem becomes...that the problem becomes all the worse...because you think you have no right to HAVE the problem in the first place. That you should be just automatically be right as rain, if you were at all sound, in general. And so...there's the stigma attached...that any man feels, when he has to admit he has a problem of some kind...that that means he doesn't "measure up" somehow, etc. And then THAT becomes ANOTHER reason to drink, drug, avoid friends and family...and act self-destructively, too, doesn't it? And before you know it, you're in a downward spiral...getting even worse, for all of that...but now having to do it all even MORE...because you ARE worse...and you don't want to think about THAT. Do you know what I mean? Hope I'm making sense. So first and foremost, I'm glad you've decided to do something about it sooner, rather than later. It's ironic...but that actually is the thing that takes strength and courage...to face it...be open about it, and face it head on.....not the covering it up.

I've never been in the military, but my father was a foreign intelligence operative during my youth, and things...well, got pretty sticky, for a great deal of the time, you could say. And I have been in more than a few situations where the likeliest outcome was a violent death...and not one that would have been categorized as "accidental", you might say. So at least there's that. It's not as though I have no idea whatsoever what you're going through, and some of what you've been through, at least. Which is just to say that I can identify.

I'm not sure what kind of advice you're looking for specifically now...if it's just how to approach your family, or more than that...but I've been on this path--"doing the work of trauma recovery" for some time now...so if there's anything at all I can be of any help with whatsoever...I hope you won't hesitate to ask. Feel free to PM me.

I also had a long period of "self-medicating" with drugs and alcohol, as well. Actually, it was a matter of indirect suicide attempts...as I couldn't see myself leaving my mother and father to deal with my actual suicide. But that's a long story. Suffice it to say that I was told more than a few times, by other drinkers and users...."You're not trying to feel good, are you? I know when someone's trying to use. You're trying to kill yourself." Long story short, between that and doing things I had every reason to expect would result in my death....such as roaming the streets in the poorer parts of town, in large metropolitan areas, walking up to gangs, and attempting to pick a fight, challenging them to pull their weapons, if they had them...you could say the fact that I'm still here is more than a little surprising.

And the fact of the matter is that the majority of those who become addicted, have a history of trauma, of one kind or another. It's probably the most common feature of addiction...a history of trauma. And there's nothing that can ruin a life quicker, that I can think of. They've even determined recently that the reason that the 12 step programs are successful, is that all of its components specifically address aspects of the underlying trauma, to produce recovery...even down to the brain-changes involved. For example...they've found that traumatic memories are stored as images in the right brain, where they become flashbacks and other "reexperiencing", because they get stuck there, and don't get "processed" over to the left side of the brain...which is the way it usually works, and is supposed to...so that they can then be included in our "intellectual understanding", instead...and so, lose the "charge" associated with them. And the main way the brain does that is during sleep, by dreaming of them...without going into all of the details...we wake ourselves up, when they're traumatic, for one...so they never get the chance to be processed that way...but also...when they're bad enough...cortisol levels go up to the point that REM sleep is suppressed, in general...interrupting the process. But they've found that writing about them accomplishes this transfer...from the right brain to the left....this processing. And part of the 12 steps is doing this, in a way...what they call the 4th step.

But anyway. I'm just saying all of that as a means of showing you how hand in hand trauma is with addiction, by giving you one of countless possible examples. I'm not suggesting you need help with addiction recovery...or that you should use a 12 step program, if you do...just trying to impress upon you the likely road you'll be doomed to tread if you don't get off it, sooner rather than later, while you can. So glad you've already arrived at that conclusion, yourself.

As far as how to come clean to your family...about your feelings, your drink and drug problems...it's hard to say, not knowing you or your family, or your relationship with and history with them. Just speaking generally...if it were me...I'd try to let them know that I hadn't had the problem before the combat, etc....so I know it's not just something else...you know, weak moral values, etc etc...and just tell them what symptoms you'd been having beforehand...and that you've learned that these are common symptoms in PTSD. So you realize you need to do something about it, directly, before it gets worse in any other way, either the symptoms get worse, your substance use, or your life in general...in the interest of your future, and everything else. You know. Just keep it simple and straightforward. I think you should try to keep in mind that, even if your family hasn't said anything directly to you about it...they're likely to be very understanding about such symptoms being a result of combat/military service. If they're like most families of vets I've known..they just didn't want to be the ones to bring it up A) Because they didn't want to remind you of something you'd rather not think about anymore, and B) Because they didn't want to sound like they were suggesting you can't handle it...which is naturally the way that the average person thinks of it, before they've learned anything about PTSD...even though that really has little if anything to do with it, really, as you'll learn the more you read about it. I'd also keep it short and sweet, but just honestly answer whatever questions they might have about it, of course. It's also better to choose a time and place without distractions, but you'd probably know that, already.

I would also like to add, that it's not at all unusual to find that you seemed to be o.k. at first...but then to suddenly find things going south on you...and having no idea what's going on. That's due to what's called "numbing", another symptom....which basically just means...that your system just shuts itself down, when it has to, for safeties sake...to get through whatever the danger is, in one piece, without having to deal with all of the feelings, etc., that go along with it..which would obviously make it that much harder to survive it, right? They say it's an evolutionary thing...that this is just part of the protective mechanisms that animals have developed to keep them alive. A good book about it is Levine's "Waking the Tiger"....which also does a good job of putting it in perspective, and showing it for the physical/physiological issue that it really is...rather than the "psychological issue" that most still think of it as being. Maybe even tell your parents that you've been looking into it online, and found this site...so they can have a look, themselves, to get some idea. I've known more than a few people recovering from PTSD, at this point...and one of the greatest challenges and sticking points to making any progress, is to have a family that doesn't understand at all. Sometimes it's enough to make progress well nigh impossible. Just something to keep in mind. The more they know, the better. It might also be a good idea to set some plans in motion before you decide to tell them...just so they can feel sure that this is a concrete step, seeing that you've already taken some material actions in keeping with what you're telling them. Like make an appointment to see someone, if only for a referral to a trauma specialist. There may be resources available through the military, though I'm in the U.S., and am unfamiliar with the practices and protocols there. There are more and more available here...so even if you haven't heard of them specifically, yourself, you might still call someone in military health/medicine/veterans services, to inquire about it. You might be surprised.

And there are more and more treatments available, and more and more successful ones...for example, several medications formerly used only for blood pressure have been demonstrated as being excellent for controlling PTSD related nightmares...Prazosin, I believe, more effectively than any other. Also...one of the most well-known consequences of exposure to trauma is low serotonin levels, due to what's called "decreased Hippocampal volume"...reduction in the volume of one of the portions of the brain responsible for manufacturing Serotonin....as well as several medications previously used as anticonvulsants, that control well the obsessiveness and anxiety associated with the symptoms, which you've described...and which I know well, myself. Personally, I take Zoloft (Sertraline), as well as Lamictal, Clonidine, and Prazosin. Its made a great deal of difference. All the difference in the world, really. Should have seen me before. Bad news. One more thing to keep in mind...it may get worse before it gets better. And if so, that's as it should be, and just part of the process...no cause for alarm...it's just your body beginning to process all of what you've stored up, when the numbing starts to wear off, and it begins to wake up. If that happens to be the case...and it's not, for everyone...try to remember that however NOT o.k. it feels...all you have to do is hold on and ride it out...and it does eventually get better. Even if it feels like it never will. Believe me, it sure felt that way to me. And more than a few would have told you they honestly didn't think I was going to make it. But I have. And it's getting better.

So if there's ever anything I can do, again, don't hesitate to PM me. And thanks again for your service. Cheers
 
USMC, here.

Take these moments of realization when & where you can, it's wicked easy to lose another couple years trying to numb out before your sense surfaces, again. Reach bottom? Ha. I can dig.

My only advice in telling family is to be secure in what you want, even if you don't know how to get there, yet. I put up a good front, and have had people tell me I'm fine and not to worry (& I believe them because that's what I want, too), when I'm actually in pistol sucking territory... And I've had people freak out and make things worse when I'm already on the edge. When it doesn't matter what their reaction is, and I know I need to do a thing? That's when -for me- it works itself out.

This is an amazing site. Tons of good information. There's also a sister site http:// that is vets & combatPTSD only.
 
Hi, I think you need to be very kind to yourself and honest with yourself about what is causing this, the root of it, so you can convey that across to others. I've had substance abuse issues too.

The thing is that if you simply say, I've developed addictive behaviours, some people are upset, disappointed etc and don't understand that 1. you are self medicating and 2. what you are self medicating. So they tend to try and figure out strategies to simply get you off the poison. They simply see removing the addiction as the sole aim.

The fact is you are numbing yourself, so as to able to cope with your bodies stress responses. So you need to be able to say you think you have ptsd. You also need a basic understanding of the neuro-physiological working of ptsd, otherwise t=you and they won't understand the context.

Ultimately what you need is compassion and security, the more you focus on that the more the need for addictive behaviour will loosen. It is very hard and prone to failure if you simply remove your crutch without building support for the actual problem.
 
Spookedlife & Fridayjones thank you very much for the advice, it's a great help been reading up a lot the past few days because I realized there was something wrong just not sure what it was completely, I've been looking in to the diet to keep my insulin levels low and plan on bringing it with the doctor later to see what he would suggest. Thanks for the suggestion of the book I've ordered it off Amazon if you have anymore you'd suggest I read let me know. As for being certain of what I want Friday I honestly have no Idea at the moment besides I don't want to end up alone on the streets as a junkie, so for now my goal is to bring abit of honesty yo myself.
 
@Mike1300

I'd like to second what Springer80 said, as well. Great advice, absolutely. Other books to start with...Trauma & Recovery...by Judith Herman, M.D....and Trauma and The Body, by Pat Ogden...
 
@Mike1300 I would concur with some advice above in relation to maybe practicing what you want to say, even write it down and read from it to your family.

My only recommendation would be to express exactly what you want, or do not want, from them. Some people want their family to help them sort it all out, others just want them to be there when needed for support as you're taking your own actions for detox and such... as families can go all sorts of funny with these things, basically not knowing what to do and going into denial, to... trying to fix you by forcing you into their belief systems and methods.

Have it worked out, have your own plan of action written down, if you have one, and be clear with them, be honest... and just let it flow mate.

One combat vet to another... it only gets better when you start owning your shit and doing the hard work to get through it all, come out the other side to once again enjoy life.
 
Thanks a lot brother, I've been battling over the decision on what to do writing it down and giving it to them or trying to convey to the person to person each has its appeal and each has its down side. It feels almost cowardly to just write it down and dump my problems upon them but I'm not sure if I'll remember everything I want to say/ get the opportunity to say it if I just tried talking to them. As you said I'm afraid they will focus of the drink ect... But I'm positive that isn't the complete problem I haven't touched anything since last Thursday ( not a long time I know) but I haven't felt like a need to. I've been reading ALOT about depression and self-help and realised that it's about setting small goals. I'll be completely honest with you guys I haven't been to the doctors yet I feel as if I should start helping myself before I go there, to be able to say, this is what I think is wrong this Is what I've started doing about it. I feel as if I'm just being weak going and saying here's what I feeling help me.... I'm not sure if that's the correct decision or not or if it's just my pride standing in my way. Any input would be grateful?
 
I really don't think you should judge yourself too harshly. Just go to the doctors and spill your guts. To be honest it may take quite a few goes to get to the correct specialist so the sooner you start knocking their door down the better
 
Oh and btw, you don't have to do face-to-face, or a letter. You could do both. Talk to them and leave you notes as well.
 
Pride is a little unseen enemy for guys, and especially military, based on training and then operational experience. We put mental issues at the bottom of the pile of important things to do, yet they should be at the top, as they're literally the silent killer within us.

What method you use, and how you specifically do something, is really here nor there, providing its positive and not negative, and that the end goal is achieved. Get help from your doctor, your family, whoever you feel is going to help you best. Depending on your level of dependence with a drug, you may need pharmacological assistance to withdraw, if you're enduring withdrawals. You may be able to just quit the nasty stuff cold turkey. Everyone is different.

You've made a start, and yes... basically baby steps (small goals) is exactly how you change your life. If you set massive goals, you fail, then beat yourself up, get depressed, then use alcohol / drugs to numb the pain. Fail. Set small, achievable goals, and let some decent time occur that you manage each goal, depending on effort needed, before moving onto another one.

Well done.
 
I think its great that you've realised what is happening before it goes too far
I'm Australian but Thankyou for fighting for not only your own country but all of mankind.
You certainly should hold your head high. From personal experience and its been a war of my own I suggest that you speak with a Dr to start with then he will advise you on steps you need to take and I am sure your family will already know you aren't dealing with things so you probably wont need to say much as all, they probably sense it anyway. Keep them close and don't be afraid to open up to them as well as your friends, one of the best things you can do is talk about it.. Good Luck
 
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