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At this point as upside down as I am I absolutely refuse to be medicated and hope I don't get to the point that I accept medication my main worry is I have a 4 year old daughter and my wife is due to have our second child in February and u need to be more functional by then which gives me a deadline and pressure

Totally agree. Here's a little ammunition, incase you meet a quack who won't take no for an answer.

I'm not going to knock anyone who says that meds helped them, but, the more trials data I look at, the more convinced I become that SSRI anti depressants and neuroleptic anti psychotic meds, not only don't work for trauma and depression. SSRI is typically within 5% of the sugar pill placebo for both depression and trauma, but can result in up to 10 times the suicidal behaviour. Trials screen out anyone who's suicidal before they start, so that difference is downright scary.

We also have a 20 something year old member here, who is still waiting for their sexual function to return, months after managing to get off an SSRI. Others report feelings like electric shocks in their heads for 7 to 9 months after weaning off the stuff.

One of the arguments used to explain the high placebo effect (typically mid to high thirties percent) is that the trials staff taking an interest in the participants acts like therapy. If that effect is true, it would need to be subtracted from both the placebo and the drug, which would leave the drug helping between minus five and plus five percent of participants... But trashing a great deal higher percentage of peoples sex lives, and ability to connect with others.

Regarding emdr. I have heard of people self administering it, and the very similar (though less empirically trialed) EFT tapping.

Do you have others who experienced similar to you, who you can meet and talk freely with? People who are likely to understand all of the feelings of fear, helplessness, guilt for thoughts, deeds and even for surviving if others didn't.

Judith Herman, in her book trauma and recovery ( the study of trauma has moved on a long way since it was published, but it is still good) writes about people returning from the Vietnam war, to ostracism, and a world where trauma was not recognized, forming "rap groups" where they explored their experiences and their parts in what had happened.

I'm all the way west in whitehaven
great for the coast and lakes.:)

That's a good two hours drive at least! I once drove to wigton in under an hour, but that's more than 30 years ago. I'd loose my licence if I tried it now.
 
At this point as upside down as I am I absolutely refuse to be medicated and hope I don't get to the point that I accept medication my main worry is I have a 4 year old daughter and my wife is due to have our second child in February and u need to be more functional by then which gives me a deadline and pressure

Finding a good therapist is one of the best things you can do for yourself. It's well worth looking into, especially if you think your wife and little one are going to be needing your support. You need someone to properly support you too.

As for meds, my consultant psychiatrist prescribed something slightly new (Valdoxan), as I was keen to avoid anything affecting sexual or cognitive function & didn't want problems coming off them. It's not a SSRI or any of the usual anti-depressants. No-one here seems to have much experience of the meds I've been given. So far, so good - they seem to be helping.

It's not for everyone & I'm not advocating it for you. It depends who your doc is and what you feel you need.

In my case it has helped me manage my anxiety and despondency to the extent that I'm now able to make good progress in my therapy. It took a few weeks for me to be persuaded to even try them. I still don't really like taking them, but they are doing something and eventually I decided I'd rather recover sooner than try to prove a point to myself about my independence and mental strength. My little girls are 7 & 8 and the meds haven't got in the way of me being a good father at all. If anything, they help because I'm functioning better without being paralysed by anxiety most of the time. Their hugs and affection are some of the best medicine I've got.
 
Welcome @Crunch

My experience of getting therapy through my gp surgery has been mixed. I self referred in the end. Is there a nhs funded talking therapies service in Cumbria? Although its under funded and not for long enough I am currently seeing a very good nhs therapist at the moment so its not a totally lost cause.

Best wishes.
 
Welcome @Crunch

My experience of getting therapy through my gp surgery has been mixed....
Seen gp today and my head twitch went mental so he's seen how bad it can get and he's gonna push my community councilor to see me and he gave me beta blockers to calm me down not sure if I'm gonna use them though
 
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