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Love And Emotional Availability

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Go easy on me. New here and still learning the site.

Anyways, I thought I would chime in on this one because this is one of my worst issues to work through. I feel... nothing. I've been through a number of relationships where I know I SHOULD be in love with this person, they have so many traits that fit my romantic needs, but I can't feel. I try to make myself feel and that doesn't work either. Then they usually get angry with me because they can't understand what I'm going through and take it personally. Then they usually end the relationship.

These chain of events usually compound my illness. Definitely makes things worse. I've seen phrases like "emotional walls" and "brain stuffed with cotton". I totally get that. It's nice to know I'm not alone in this department.
 
Go easy on me. New here and still learning the site.

Anyways, I thought I would chime in on thi...
Hi, Jedi
Welcome to the forum. Your not alone in this situation. I can really relate. I have to actually ask myself how I feel at various times of the day. Kinda weird, huh?

I hope you feel welcome and continue to contribute to our discussions. (( hugs )) to you, if you accept them.
 
I'm not sure if this will help or not but I feel I need to write it.

In my case, I didn't know until recently that I was emotionally unavailable for most of my life. Through therapy, I learned that it was my coping mechanism for being raised in an abusive environment. I didn't know how else to deal with it. I became co-dependent as well. All of my relationships after that were with emotionally abusive guys who were on the verge of becoming physically abusive. So I shut down emotionally to protect myself and stayed that way pretty much all of my life. The emotions I experienced over the years were too painful and overwhelming for me to deal with so I shut down and "went numb" as much as I could. I went to several therapists for depression over the course of twenty some years with little help.

Once I hit my rock bottom a few years ago, I knew something had to change. I didn't want to live the way I was anymore. I was miserable but I wasn't sure why. My now ex-husband and I went to marriage counseling. She was the first counselor to recognize that I may have PTSD from abusive relationships. So I went to a trauma therapist who diagnosed me as having PTSD. Going through EMDR therapy with her opened up what felt like a whole new world for me. For the first time in my life I was actually starting to feel - the good and the bad. It wasn't easy by any means. At times it's been extremely difficult and painful. She gave me a safe place and new coping mechanisms so I could safely deal with my emotions. After suffering for over 40 years, I was finally ready to start my journey to healing. The point I'm trying to make here is that I was ready. I had to be ready to recognize my trauma, to recognize my emotional unavailability, and to work on my healing. No one could do it for me.

Also, I had to distance myself from others at times so that I could work on myself without their interference, intentional or not.

Your question struck a chord with me because my ex told me many times that I was emotionally unavailable (I agreed to a point) and that I was INCAPABLE of love. He also told me I was cold, cruel, heartless, selfish, and so on probably because I wanted out of the marriage. I know he was hurting and I tried everything I could to make it as easy on him and the kids as I could. I tried to empathize with him but it was really hard because he had been emotionally abusive and controlling for years. Yet I still tried to be sensitive to his feelings when he seemed to disregard mine. Any love I had felt for him was completely gone by this point. I'm not sure why you wrote "can't feel love". The point I'm trying to make is that maybe he can feel love but for whatever reason he's shut down or is unable to deal with certain emotions at times. Or maybe I'm just a bit sensitive to words like "can't". lol

I have a huge heart that overflows with love for my kids. I hate reading the news sometimes because I feel really sad for those going through tough times. I feel all kinds of emotions reading posts on this forum but I'm glad that I feel something. It "just" took me time and I had to work through it at my own pace.

Before the divorce, he would tell me he loved me. I'd mumble something like thanks or ditto or something. I now realize that I simply did not love him but I was afraid to admit it and tell him. The day I finally told him I didn't love him anymore was the day he said I was incapable of love which I know is not true. I'm not saying this is the case in your situation.

I've recently come to understand that my ex was probably emotionally unavailable as well. In over twenty years of marriage, we never had an emotional connection. I tried so hard to connect with him on an emotional level many times but it just wasn't there. It had gotten to the point that I didn't even like him as a person anymore.

When it seems like your boyfriend is ignoring you or is distant, it's okay for you to feel how you feel about that. Are you and/or your boyfriend in any kind of therapy or counseling? I think it could help a lot in trying to figure out how to communicate with each other, especially when PTSD is involved. I also found that it may help to understand WHY he is distant at times. Is he triggered? Does he need space? Did something happen? Has he been in abusive relationships? Is that just who he is?

I just wanted to give you another perspective on why someone could be emotionally unavailable at times. Having said all this, I believe PTSD is not an excuse to treat someone badly. Sometimes a jerk is still a jerk regardless of PTSD or not. I have had my fair share of times when I treated someone badly. When I recognize it, I apologize to them and try to move on.

I hope this wasn't confusing and maybe helps at least a little bit.
 
I'm not sure why you wrote "can't feel love". The point I'm trying to make is that maybe he can feel love but for whatever reason he's shut down or is unable to deal with certain emotions at times. Or maybe I'm just a bit sensitive to words like "can't". lol

Hi there! Sorry for the late response...I only just noticed your post today. I used the word "can't" in that way because that was what I read in an article about PTSD. I know every case is different and that some people feel love more than others. Also, I think the inability to feel love or other things is only a temporary state. I can understand why you might be sensitive to that question and why it might sound harsh. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to offend. I also asked because of how emotionless my now ex-boyfriend seemed to me.

When we were together he treated me wonderfully and did things that I consider loving, like giving me flowers, taking me out to eat and always insisting on paying, and opening the car door for me, even when we were just in our comfy clothes and heading to the grocery store (I found that so sweet and endearing). He would text me regularly, calling me beautiful and giving me compliments (mostly by text). One time something too personal to go into happened between us and afterward he told me that he felt like it was a breakthrough in our relationship. He also talked about another thing between us as building intimacy and closeness, so I know he wanted that with me.

But even though he went through all the motions of a loving person, his face never showed a loving expression, not just toward me, but toward anyone. I never even saw him show that emotion on his face toward kids, even though he is a devoted father. He also never told me he loved me. I'm aware that it's possible that that's not because he has PTSD or can’t feel love, but because he didn't love me in particular.

But then I think about how he always comes back to me, even after we’ve been in relationships with other people. We’ve tried to have a relationship three different times now, plus some near misses in between. We never get past a couple months before he flees. It's torture, especially since he never gives me closure when he leaves. (I'm not trying to guilt anyone with PTSD by saying that. I do empathize with what he's going through and I know he's going through his own torture.) Also, he’s talked about how we relate to each other on so many different levels and have really interesting conversations. Plus, we have a ridiculously strong physical attraction for each other. So I feel like he either 1) did love me and was just so walled off emotionally out of fear of being hurt that he couldn’t show it; or 2) he would have loved me, but PTSD made him too numb to feel it.

The only emotion I’ve seen on his face is annoyance or anger. Other than that he looks far away and sometimes robotic. I’ve never seen sadness, fear, surprise or love except for a couple times when I caught a glimpse of joy/excitement/(love?) and was so excited. I sure wish it had lasted more than a second. :')

You’re right about the therapy. If we were still together, there are so many things I would have wanted to get answers to with the help of his therapist. He did his best to share things with me, but there were always missing pieces and I felt like I had to pull information out of him. I was also afraid to set him off by prying too much and his therapist might have helped me find the line.

Those are all good questions that I’d like to know the answer to myself. I would ask him if he’d talk to me. I often wonder what part of him is him and what part is PTSD since I met him when he already had it. He didn’t know he had it until after our first relationship. He got it from something that happened in his marriage several years prior. His wife was dishonest, very troubled, and caused him a lot of grief, but I don’t think she was abusive. However, even though his PTSD wasn’t attributed to his childhood, I wonder if his dad was abusive from things he’s said.

Thank you for your response and all that you shared. It’s very enlightening. I’m sorry about all the hard times you’ve had, but it’s wonderful how far you’ve come. Peace and love to you.
 
My partner tells me he loves me constantly. He hasn't hit me or degraded me or cheated on me or anything like that. He takes care of all the bills or most of them and has recently started helping more around the house and with our kids.

This though has nothing to do with the storm inside of me. He cannot deal with it. Not my sadness, not my pain, not my tears. Nothing. This has eliminated all connection and attachment from me to him. So I am emotionally unavailable purposefully because when I open up the response is not there. When you cry or express yourself and you're ignored or dismissed it kind of leads to that. I would also say that I know that because of CPTSD I am less tolerent of peoples discomfort woth other peoples pain..this is f*cked up I know...and it isn't helping me...i am trying to just settle for what he offers. I need so much more and its not ok i think maybe its wrong.
 
I can only connect to people that know my pain, that have experienced it, ( as far as a relationship or a friendship). I also think we confuse what connections really are. Connectivity is not instant. Connectivity, in the movies, is fast, because a movie is one and a half to two hours long. The connectivity of a relationship has to be fast, so we think ,as a result, that connectivity is instant- but it's not and never will be. Real connections take- T I M E.. There is no way around it. It doesn't matter is we are damaged, insecure goods- connections take time. People think it's instant. So, that brings up the theory, if people believe in love at first sight? it happens. but the odds are high.

I have a friend, that I have HAD a 6 year friendship with, that took exactly 3-4 years to develop \.
 
( to add to the previous post that wasn't suppose to be posted yet)

I have a friend/lover that I absolutely adore. I'm so lucky to be on this journey with someone so talented and creative. It's such a joy when we are together. I value every minute.. but I am a leader in real life. We have to respect each others gifts and lack of connectivity at times, but it's part of who we are.
 
My partner tells me he loves me constantly. He hasn't hit me or degraded me or cheated on me or an...
My husband does this also. He always tells me how he "loves me". But, I don't know if I love him or not.. :(
I don't think I know how to feel. Even sadness, much yet love.

When I try to reach out to him, he doesn't want to hear about anything. He has no idea what to do, even though I have told him specifically what I need from him. I will always understand the feelings I get, that make me think that I will always have to deal with "this mess" alone. Forever.
 
My husband does this also. He always tells me how he "loves me". But, I don't know if I love him or not.....

Wow your life sounds like mine. I can't really live this way too much longer. Its too isolating and damaging. I get suicidal sometimes and wheb things are really bad for me I can't even go to him for comfort because he does not know how to deal even though I have explained exactlt what I need. I am sorry that you have to deal with this. I feel like the worst feeling is being alone while with someone. It is like what is the point ?
 
This though has nothing to do with the storm inside of me. He cannot deal with it. Not my sadness, not my pain, not my tears. Nothing
That's a bummer. I can understand how that would cause you to hold back your emotions. I found myself double checking to make sure you were the one with PTSD because I've read on this site that people with PTSD often can't deal with other people's emotions. Yet, you and Katz both have husbands with this issue. Are you able to listen to and comfort him as well as other people in your life?
 
That's a bummer. I can understand how that would cause you to hold back your emotions. I found myself...
Yes. I support him and if someone else needs me I show up. I think though it's abusive for him to lean on me so much..my ability to bear so much is because I am in survival mode..still fight or flight post trauma. He doesn't allow me to be weak its incredibly painful to be strong so often and be leaned on nonstop and burdened with someone else's pain. All the time people say I'm strong and all I can think is why can't I be weak? When will i be able to fall apart? Everyone else does but I have not felt safe enough ever to fall apart...but it's coming and I am trying to hold myself together but I am breaking down and its terrifying .
 
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