Marijuana (mj) And Ptsd Treatment

[Fargo1]

I don't think people want manufactured chemicals, big pharmacology corps want to make money off manufactured chemicals and are willing to pay billions to keep it so... At least here in the US there has been some movement (thank you Colorado and Washington) for decriminalization of MJ and nearly half of the States have some form of medicinal use policies. Maybe in 20-30 years the silliness will be done with.

 

[Drgnner]

Fargo, the timestamp on your post...

 

[Fargo1]

Heh, you must be on EST! But that is damn funny.

 

[Sludge]

Hmmmm. We would need some hydro electric system going for the vaporisers to work.

We need Sludge as our chemist.

And I think Jar and Sarg can be two of the wise men, who could be the third??

Too much like work.


Interesting facts:
THC is not water soluble. It is also unstable in the presence of oxygen.
It is however, 100% soluble in ethanol. Coincidentally the vapor pressure threshold is very close to ethanol's.


I'm thinking a still.

We shall lable the mason jars "Double Edged Sword"

 

[Alex1991]

i disagree with a lot of whats been said here.

MJ is nowhere near as harmful as SSRI's. Smoking isnt the only option, vaporising is much healthier. Also no veteran should look at MJ as a cure, its merely a coping strategy.

Speaking from personal experience, following the medicated route through drugs such as sertraline, citalapram and prozac led me closer to suicide than ever before. Marijuana saved my life in this respect.

I will always reccomend MJ before any SSRI as a coping strategy before treatment (bear in mind its taken me 3 years battling against the health service and sitting on waiting lists to be assessed). For Veterans in treatment, you are fully aware its not helping, but this demonization is sickening when people are so quick to swallow tablets that are known to potentially worsen symptoms and there is no evidence that supports they are effective.

Like I said, that one joint may stop you going over the edge. so do whats right for you at the time.

 

[Alex1991]

Also to clue yourself up about the different strains, find a reputable dealer. this isnt coke it hasnt been mixed with sawdust or painkillers. Its a f*cking plant. Certainly in the UK dealers know if they give you shit weed you aint coming back to them (manchester is definately a buyers market). If you pull a whitey coz youve overdone it, its your own sodding fault. If you down 3 litres of vodka you are gona pay the consequences. Its exactly the same. People should face up more to their own responsiblities around MJ. Its not addictive, its habit forming and if you want to stop you can, and people will help you. I object to it being compared to substances that are substantially more harmful to the body, such as alchohol, coke, meth and yes SSRI's.

 

[Drgnner]

I was tested by the VA for it years ago and failed. They brought it up in my next follow up. Number one, I was angry they tested me for it and then I suddenly didn't give a shit. They told me I should get off of it. I said ok. I tell them what they want to hear sometimes.

I am sure I have been tested for it more than once since then, but they don't mention it anymore. I don't drive high and I certainly don't show up at the VA with a buzz.

I can't use it daily anymore. It does make me lazy as hell and I already put off things I don't want to do.

I weaned myself off of the meds you talk about (I don't like being emotionally numb). I have not done the chemical thing since the 80's and alcohol just f*cks me up and so I don't drink very often. Hard liquor makes me much bigger and meaner than I am, so that is definitely a no-no for me.

 

[Alex1991]

I can't use it daily anymore. It does make me lazy as hell and I already put off things I don't want to do.

I weaned myself off of the meds you talk about (I don't like being emotionally numb). I have not done the chemical thing since the 80's and alcohol just f*cks me up and so I don't drink very often. Hard liquor makes me much bigger and meaner than I am, so that is definitely a no-no for me.

I am exactly the same, Iv been sober 2 years after I really hurt somebody. I did the whole wake an bake thing, but my productivity plummeted and I wasnt moving anywhere in life. So i started to cut down, and now ill have a bit on the weekends or if iv had a tough day, but the quantities i use are minimal. I probably use about .25g per dose in my vape. thats enough to take the edge off an relax, but not enough to prevent me from functioning. If it was medicated and synthesized in the UK i certainly would choose that as an alternative.

Im very open about my usage as like i said i do not believe it should be demonized when there are more harmful substances in play. My doctors and psychiatrist support it as do my nurses. I dont use it when im having therapy as this is counter productive. but for those dark nights when no help is at hand I do believe it can save your life.

 

[Jimmy1]

Also to clue yourself up about the different strains, find a reputable dealer. this isnt coke it hasnt been mixed with sawdust or painkillers. Its a f*cking plant. Certainly in the UK dealers know if they give you shit weed you aint coming back to them (manchester is definately a buyers market). If you pull a whitey coz youve overdone it, its your own sodding fault. If you down 3 litres of vodka you are gona pay the consequences. Its exactly the same. People should face up more to their own responsiblities around MJ. Its not addictive, its habit forming and if you want to stop you can, and people will help you. I object to it being compared to substances that are substantially more harmful to the body, such as alchohol, coke, meth and yes SSRI's.

Alex, I grew my own for years and imported seeds from various places around the world so I know where your going with this and understand, but these are the problem faced with the majority of society at the moment:

• For starters it is illegal in the majority of countries with some having the death penalty as consequence.
• You can never tell the exact amount of chemicals per cone, joint, or however you are taking it.
• Some of the side effects can amplify your symptoms.

I was a borderline alcoholic and a drug addict and sometimes I wish I was back on the MJ as I am sick of taking tablets. If countries were to decriminalize it, it would allow the scientists to create the right strains for all types of patients.

I think it's really a matter of each to their own. Find what works for you and leave it at that.

Just for you Alex, I will leave you with this picture.

 

[Alex1991]

I was back on the MJ as I am sick of taking tablets. If countries were to decriminalize it, it would allow the scientists to create the right strains for all types of patients.

I think it's really a matter of each to their own. Find what works for you and leave it at that.
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I remember talking to you about this before, and I definitely fell into the trap. The past 2 years iv smoked everyday, but I can see the negative effect and Im taking back some control. Ill always choose it over the pills though, but your right thats because of my own experience.
I have been speaking to one of my nurses about this last night and I now have the intention of being completely clean by the summer as I want to start a 6 week programme with a clear head.

 

[Chin Strapped]

It's tough going trying to quit. I miss it. But when the shit runs out for a day or two, my symptoms would increase.

Too expensive, impossible to regulate and it made me want to smoke more.

I sleep llike crap once again though.

 

[Jimmy1]

If you want a laugh and to also learn a bit watch a movie by Doug Benson the comedian called 'Super High Me'. It is well worth it and you learn a heap.

In a nutshell he did 30 days straight and 30 days off his tree. He did all sorts of tests from fitness to intelligence and it's amazing the results.

If I could be guaranteed of getting the same stuff, have a never ending supply, it was legal, and I could use a vaporiser, I would go back to it over the pills any day.

One day I will be drug free