Mirtazapine??

[Darkhorse1]

Yeah the psych doc said it makes some people gain too much weight so he's had to take them off of it because of it. I haven't read too much that concerns me about making my depression any worse. I guess once I am on a regiment for awhile I'll post up my experience with it.

 

[Jimmy1]

There is only one other substance that helps me sleep and that is not legal yet. Once it is,
Decarboxylating it then using a vaporiser will be my medication. I have done so much research into the different strains and how it affects you. I take about ten different medications, and have taken more, and at this stage, my liver will kick the bucket if I keep it up. I could replace all of my medications with three different strains of green, by using a vaporiser, you are getting rid of the harmful carcinogenic crap you get from burning it, and you heat it till a certain temp which produces only vapor. If you use a vaporiser with a bag, you can measure your doses and know what to take and when. There would be a whole lot happier bunch of people in the world.

The down side, you get addicted, well I am addicted to the meds I am on now, I can't suddenly stop them, and if I do, the side effects are f*cked up.

I can't drive after using green, well about four of my meds state on the pack that I should not operate machinery or drive a vehicle.

Next???????

I am still against pot as a rule, well buying it from a person on the street I am. You can't tell what strain you are getting, what strength it is, and if it has been sprayed with anything etc. I am even more against it if you smoke it.

There has been so many miracle cures by using cannabis or cannabis by products, and it's been used since the 1600's and further in chinese medicine.

A little bit more of a push and it will be decriminalised in the majority of states and that is when I will start growing again.

Just saying.

So for now I will use Mirtazapine

 

[atilla]

I'm having a battle in my brain tonight about medications. 2005 i started taking the meds the VA gave me. It didnt work very well. any way I'm afraid to go back and find out what else they have in store for me. I've been smoking cannabis, and it seems to relieve a lot of the nervousness, depression, seems like even the next day after smoking i'm level emotionally. I don't want to feel like i'm self-medicating as i do with alcohol, but the weed feels different to me I don't feel guilty like I'm self medicating. It's working for me. I'm not a pot head by no means, but It's been the only thing that has made a difference in my daily life. Just my 2 cents worth bros and sisters. It seems like it's helping somehow..I've actually got out with the wife lately......so I'm stoned when I do it, but I'm able to do it.....Advice, comments,....PEACE!

 

[Grizzly]

It's like any other drug. If it works who cares if it's weed. If I didn't have a job that could require a piss test I would sure as shit be smoking. And the weed is probably the safest on your body than most the other shit from the pharmaceutical companies. Marijuana isn't physically addictive. Most of the stuff we are given today is though. Safety factors? Only thing I can think of is the carcinogens of smoking it. But as Jimmy pointed out, there are ways around that now. So we are left with the moral and legal dilemma.

Morally how is it any different than booze? Well, it's not socially acceptable. Booze is. Marijuana is used for one reason to get high. While the argument of booze would be used as a just beverage. But science tells us after the first drink it is altering the mind. Just in a weaker form. And destroying brain and liver cells.

I got way off track. But I say use what works atilla. I'd probably be all over it myself. You and I both live in areas of mining. Lots of guys on disability for back injuries in the mines. A lot of them on pain meds like oxy, etc. I'd bet 90% are addicted. And they are out on the roads driving. Scary!

I'm thinking about dropping e Paxil. While I think it's helping a little, the negatives seem to be outweighing the gains. I don't know, but I don't feel I have a serratonin problem.

 

[atilla]

Thanks Bro, I took paxil when I was first diagnosed, and It did help with the depression, but the sexual side effects weren't worth it to me. I dropped it after a year or so. There's no magic bullet. At least with the weed the only side effects are all good, except the "munchies"...lol can really screw up your excercise routine. Your right though, there's a lot of people running around on the roads high as hell on pain meds in our area. Illegal pharma use is almost at an epidemic level in our town. I can't drive anyway, but there's no way I could drive after smoking. So the world is safe from me..lol

 

[Darkhorse1]

Ok been taking it about two months now and at first it was helping with sleep and I started noticing an overall better mood so I'm not sure if it was a placebo effect of me wanting it to work or the anti-depressant actually working. So on that note it's been great, I still have bouts of suicidal thoughts but I'm able to get over them quickly.

Now the negative, at first I was waking up feeling very groggy and still happens from time to time but not as frequent. I've been having a lot more dreams (both nightmares and regular), and have had a couple of panic attacks in public (been awhile since I've had one).

I have an appointment with the doc sometime next month so I'll let him know all of this and get his take.

 

[Jimmy1]

Mate, I have a soluble mirtazapine 30 min before sleep and I can't ask for anything better atm.
Apart from illegal self medication

 

[Kaishi]

Was good knocking me out, but dropped it for drowsiness right before that, I don't really handle waiting for most meds to kick in