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Matt218

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My introduction

A couple of you guys referred me over here, so I'm just going to copy/paste my intro (and add a few things) from the other board I was on.

22 year old combat medic, deployed to Afghanistan from March 2008 to March 2009, came back to my fiancee wanting me to talk about what happened over there, I wasn't ready, we split, she married a dude she had been seeing the entire time I was gone.

Was a very healthy person before deployment, came back dipping, smoking, and drinking like nobodies business. Have bad passive anger issues that will occasionally overwhelm me, I've only snapped once, and I was sent to a drinking program for my anger, which didn't make much sense. While there, I met a therapist who diagnosed me with PTSD (Apparently the other 3 shrinks they ordered me to see didn't catch the vibe) with anxiety disorder, as well as alcohol dependency.

Long story short, I don't drink any more, I smoke about 3 cigarettes a day, down from a pack. I was blowing 100-400 a weekend at the bars but I don't do that any more, maybe 1 beer a week. I still have unbelievable amounts of anger and hatred inside that just brews.

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Long story short, lost a good friend on Christmas, that holiday is ruined. 3 days later a suicide bomber hit our outpost, killed about 30 kids, all of which were scattered about 700m in every direction, body parts in trees, entangled in c-wire, blood and just human goo everywhere. A whole group of kids was walking t school past the front of our COP when he hit, they were about 5 feet away from the vehicle. No Americans died, but the kids are just innocent. It took me a lot just to be able not to have a panic attack talking about that. The other big incident was a few weeks before we were supposed to leave, a guy rammed his vehicle (explosive ridden, of course) into the lead truck of our convoy (we were about 5 minutes behind) and killed 2 guys in it, one of which was a very close friend. We worked on them for about 15 minutes while the helicopters just circled overhead, refusing to land because it was a "hot zone". Almost killed a flight crew member who was dragging the remains of my buddy through the mud because he didn't want to get dirty.

Stupid things irritate me. People blowing me off, getting cut off, people driving immediately next to me, turning left into my direction of travel and going into the median. I tense up, white knuckled, it's very visible. My current girlfriend has noticed it, constantly looking over my shoulder. I used to not really care, but I get so pissed off when people don't say please or thank you, just the simple things that don't really require much. The frivolous things people get upset over. Starbucks coffee, getting the stuffed crab legs because they were all out of grilled salmon. I can't stand normal people.

My current girlfriend is actually the coolest I've had when it comes to this. She knows I have issues, and said "I won't press you to tell me about it, if you want to tell me when you are ready, I'm all ears. If you don't ever want to tell me, that is totally fine and I understand." compared to the ex who wanted to know everything about it.

I've been up for about 26 hours now, so I'm probably getting off topic.
 
Matt,

Welcome to the forum. I was one of those guys who referred you to this site. I am glad you are here.

The good news is everything will eventual get easier to live with. Don't worry, I still have my days though where people piss me off, but they are not as frequent anymore.
As for the alcohol, well done mate.

To me, I think you have already taken some big steps on your road to recovery. And we are all here to listen and guide if you want it.
And because we all are veterans, your comments will be welcome on our posts too.

Jimmy
 
Matt, welcome mate. Great to have you here.
Matt218;503 said:
Long story short, I don't drink any more, I smoke about 3 cigarettes a day, down from a pack. I was blowing 100-400 a weekend at the bars but I don't do that any more, maybe 1 beer a week. I still have unbelievable amounts of anger and hatred inside that just brews.
Matt, honestly mate, well done. To even think about looking at the trauma itself, you have to have certain things within controllable limits, drugs, alcohol, your lifestyle environment, ie. stable household / relationships, etc. You have ticked all the boxes on your own, that says a whole lot about you and your own wanting to get better.

That anger issue... we can certainly help you lower that right down, some of it will need time and good experiences, some is helped by knowledge and exposure.

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Matt218;503 said:
Stupid things irritate me. People blowing me off, getting cut off, people driving immediately next to me, turning left into my direction of travel and going into the median. I tense up, white knuckled, it's very visible. My current girlfriend has noticed it, constantly looking over my shoulder. I used to not really care, but I get so pissed off when people don't say please or thank you, just the simple things that don't really require much. The frivolous things people get upset over. Starbucks coffee, getting the stuffed crab legs because they were all out of grilled salmon. I can't stand normal people.
Matt, this is actually very relevant. Here is the largest problem with military training. Until you have put it into action via operational deployment, it is all reversible with time. Once you have put training into action, your brain has realised that this behavioural training given saved your life. Your brain now recognises this information to be life saving, survival instincts if you like. The problem though is that your training serves zero purpose within civilian society. Whilst all societies have bad things happen, the thread component is not a constant presence. Operations, the threat is constant, tests you at random without notice, so your instincts develop and hone to that environment.

The problem is in getting your brain to lose these behaviours as instinctual one's and instead replace them to the best of your ability to society behaviours.

  • Military - When someone speaks, says hello, etc, you are trained to take notice, to respond with courtesy. You salute rank as a respect. These are learnt behaviours which civilians are not taught. You are punished for not answering, being disrespectful or insubordinate.
  • Civilian - A civilian is taught by their parents, which leaves learning very open and oriented to each individual as they choose depending on how strict their parents are, choices made and so forth. Discipline typically ceases at adulthood.
Daily importance. You have served in places where failure to do something by the book could end up with a death, many deaths and far reaching consequences. Now, apply that to a civilian. What they find important is different from your experience, but is it actually wrong? They have not had to make decisions based on life and death daily. The most important decision they may face is what to eat or drink, getting the right coffee drink that they asked for. You have had to make do on anything you have, found, received or acquired whilst in an operational zone.

Is either wrong? No. Your view has simply shifted of what is and is not important within life. That doesn't mean every civilian should shift their view of importance to your view. Their not wrong, they just don't have your experience. Does this mean you should share your experience with them? No. It is not up to you to change their mind, nor will you likely change it, instead it will only cause an aggressive outcome more often than not. Both views are correct, however; your view is from a war zone and actually not the best view to be applied within a western civilian society. In a war zone your view is the majority, back home, it is a minority of social views. You used to think civilian, then you thought military, now you think life and death / black or white. Society unfortunately comes in lots of grey shades with room to move and be flexible with decisions, views, outlook, opinions, etc etc.

To control your anger is to understand what is causing it. I am hoping to get some documents made over the next month that are only combat related on how anger resides.

The basics that you need to know right now, so you can understand what is creating the anger within:

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  2. Link Removed - Shows how anger is created and how it can be avoided if dealt with at the emotional immediate level
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If you look at things you've said about the driving incident that occurred, then review what you said about how you are on edge when someone is beside you in a vehicle, come at you from a certain direction... all ringing a bell about what your brain now interprets as a dangerous act that occurred within a dangerous place? The retraining for all military comes down to a quick analysis that we are no longer in such a place, so we progressively begin to reaffirm ourselves on a constant basis that we are not within a war zone, people around us are not out to kill us, there is no enemy now.

I think I may leave it at that for now though... that is a lot to take in as is.
 
Matt,
Welcome to the forum. I have some experience with the Combat Medic life. I was in the Air Force at a forward aid station. That shit sucks and we will never forget the things we have seen. But there is hope for us. Stay strong and don't hesitate to come on here and let us know where you are in the current version of you. Frankly I am on Scotty 2.5 rightnow hoping to upgade to Scotty 3.0. I takes a while but we can and do cope with it.
 
Hi My Name is Bradley Golder and I served overseas during the post Gulf War 1991 on HMAS DARWIN doing minefield escorts into Kuwait City. Saw the Aftermath of the War. Would have been an uneventful deployment until we had a fire and explosion ii one of the gas turbines during one of our minefield transits. I have been dealing with the issues for a while now and the PTSD reared its ugly head when I stopped drinking. I got Discharged from the Royal Australian Navy in 2005 with a diagnosis of Major Depression with Moderate severity and i haven't worked since as my mood flucuates so much and the tinyest bit of stress can push me over the top.
 
Its more of a weird thing than "normal people suck". Normal people don't understand us because we are "for want of a better word" broken. Our normal interaction is warped by our experience. They can't understand us. We hate them for their normalcy and the fact that they cannot understand us.

Its just something we (as the ones who got blown up, shot and generally abused) have to learn to deal with. Not them. Remember they are the normal ones and we used to be like them.
 
Brad,

Have you considered putting yourself on one of the PTSD programs. I completed mine in 2007 and it has given me a greater insight into the signs and symptoms and also coping strategies.

You are not alone here on this site mate and regardless of the trauma, the symptoms are the same.

Jimmy
 
Welcome along Bradley and good to have you here mate. As above... it is hard to be understood when you have PTSD from combat experience, let alone PTSD in general.
 
Hi Matt, I'm a combat medic too, served 2 tours in Iraq and 3 months search/rescue after Katrina. I can identify with your incident with the kids, I know I had something happen with little ones too, thing is I really can't remember it - I just dream about it. Don't really know that I want to remember it fully. As for the getting pissed off about "little things", I can totally relate. I know that there have been many times when I've lost my cool over something not all that big, then hopped in my truck to just get out - to just go and get away from the noise. I've been pulled over for driving down the center of the highway and not having my headlights on, I've run red lights without thinking about it (didn't get caught though). I don't get all white-knuckled and drive crazy so much anymore, but I have to conciously fight it. Anyway, hi and thanks for sharing.
 
I have done an inpatient PTSD program and numerous others at ST John of God Hospital in Richmond nsw twice but things are not really falling into place i guess i am still only coming to grips with it all. Hope that one day it will all fall into place but I have some good mentors in the Local Vietnam Vets who understand what I am going through.
 
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