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My Therapist Didn't Believe Me?

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IchBin

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Hi guys, I had a stint of psychotherapy last year for about 6 months which I terminated because I began to intuit she wasn't on my side. As it turns out she was the standard psychoanalytic type of therapist, so she would say very little and scribble lots of notes, all in the name of "letting the transference develop". Well, I know now that classical psychoanalytic constructs are not very useful for treating trauma, but I didn't know this at the time, nor did she. Now I know for sure my symptoms fall under the cptsd umbrella, and during therapy I had some inkling of this since I began reading the scholarly literature on the subject, but she insisted I was "just depressed, maybe with anxiety, too". This kind of statement bothered me a lot at the time - it still still kinda does - and it just goes to show how therapists can indeed be overconfident about what they really know nothing about. Anyways, the therapy began to stagnate, so I told her this, and she said it was because I wasn't being vulnerable enough or that I had a "complex" about getting too close to her. In reality, I began to realize she was incompetent and usually wrong with her interpretations of my symptoms, and therefore I was paying $100 a session out of pocket for useless meetings.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago, I was reading the APA guidelines regarding patient information, and I realized I have a right to view certain information therapists keep on patients. I emailed her requesting this information, but she initially denied the request and said, "the information is in the form of psychotherapy notes, and notes are a protected category, so they don't have to be shared with patients". I researched this and found it to be partially true, notes are protected, except for certain categories of information including diagnosis, a synopsis of each session, etc. I told her this, and she initially wanted me to come in so she could summarize the notes for me in person, but I declined and told her to send me the information I have a right to in the mail. She didn't want to rewrite anything (for which she would have to "charge me $100 an hour for going above and beyond what is required"), so, reluctantly, she sent me all the notes from our sessions after I signed a release form. When I read them, I promised myself I wouldn't be surprised with what I found, but I broke my promise. In fact, all along she thought I was concocting a facade, a story; in her words, "the sexual abuse from his sister is probably lacking in authenticity". I don't know about you, but I already feel crazy - what with hyperarousal, nightmares, difficulty sleeping, trust issues, problems with dissociation etc etc - and then on top of that a trained professional says my experience is not real? Also, this woman teaches doctors how to perform psychotherapy at a big name state university teaching hospital. God only knows. I don't know, this just throws me for a loop. Has anyone else had incompetent therapists such as this? I just want to scream because I feel betrayed...:confused:

/end rant

[In better news though, I switched to an excellent therapist who I have been seeing for about 3 months for dream therapy and general counseling. The relationship I have with him is so good I can't believe I stayed with the other woman for so long!]
 
I am sorry you had to deal with that. When I was a teenager I also had a terrible counselor/therapist (I'm not sure what he officially was) through social services and he told me a lot of things that I believed for a long time, such as that my difficulties in life were all caused by my "attitude problem" and I was purposely making things hard for myself. Ok, yes, I did have an attitude, but what teenager doesn't. But lo and behold 10 years later I still have problems... hmmm maybe he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Lol. Well anyway don't take it personally, some people are just bad at their jobs and that goes for therapists too.
 
I don't blame you for being upset. What a b*tch!

Several years ago I contacted a therapist that I had seen when I was a child because I needed my records. I told her what I was dealing with now (sexual abuse by my father). She made a comment, "if indeed that is what happened to you".

I seriously wanted to leap through the phone and strangle her with my other hand. So, I know how you feel. Sometimes even so-called-professionals can say such stupid @$$ stuff it's mind blowing.

Take care. Heather
 
Yes, I have had to deal with my share of incompetent therapists. It's upsetting to think people who we are supposed to trust unequivoclly can screw us over like that. I was meeting with a nurse some weeks ago to monitor my thyroid disease, and as I was explaining the history of my condition and how I eventually got diagnosed, I mentioned that I had told the nurses when I was in the psychiatric ward that I had an enlarged thyroid. She was appalled when I told her that they did nothing to investigate it. When my mother had asked the social worker if it was possible my thyroid was effecting my depression, he just said, "It's possible," and that was the extent of it. Psychiatric hospitals are borderline useless in my opinion. All they do is shove pills down your throat and label you with as many obscure disorders as possible. I found out later all the things the psychaitrist in the hospital diagnosed me with were really just symptoms of my PTSD.

When I confessed to the counselor at my high school that I was cutting myself, I told her quite explicitly that I was using a knife. She had a meeting with my parents. And when I talked about that meeting with them some time later, I found out that she had told them she thought I was using a brush :O_o:!!!

The worst was the first therapist I had who reminded me of a frog. I tried to explain to her that I was experiencing feelings of numbness and it was as if I was feeling nothing at all. She smiled at me in a "silly girl" sort of way and said, "I think you're mistaken when you say you feel nothing."
 
The worst was the first therapist I had who reminded me of a frog. I tried to explain to her that I was experiencing feelings of numbness and it was as if I was feeling nothing at all. She smiled at me in a "silly girl" sort of way and said, "I think you're mistaken when you say you feel nothing."

Just reading this makes me bristle. I hate being treated like the "crazy one" such that whatever I say is subject to screening by the therapist who is, of course, always right - after all, they aren't in therapy, you are. Such BS, and very condescending. I think it's another case where psychoanalytic thought (i.e. it's all about the unconscious, you may say you aren't feeling anything but that's just an unconscious ploy to achieve x or y... blah blah blah) fails to provide a useful explanation. I'm just happy real science shows ptsd has real biological roots - nobody's making this stuff up, heavens no.

Thanks for your insight guys, I appreciate your exchange of stories - it makes me feel better.
 
Hey IchBin,
Many moons ago I had a bad analyst as well. I think 'analysts' just aren't good for PTSD in general - it just needs to be more dynamic so that things can move. I didn't know that at the time... Mine did the opposite of what yours did -- he agreed w/everything I said, didn't question any of my distortions (that people were out to get me, the world is unsafe, etc.), and we created quite the exaggerated scenario. The distortions had resulted from the traumas, but all he did was cement the distortions, and we never even got to the traumas. I started to realize this and bolted outta there within a few months... They come in all flavors ;)

Reading your account made me bristle as well. There's nothing like being invalidated by someone when you're in such a vulnerable position. Your experience must have been intensely infuriating -- I empathize. So glad to hear that you're now with someone who sounds much cooler :)
 
She initially wanted me to come in so she could summarize the notes for me in person, but I declined and told her to send me the information I have a right to in the mail. She didn't want to rewrite anything (for which she would have to "charge me $100 an hour for going above and beyond what is required"), so, reluctantly, she sent me all the notes from our sessions after I signed a release form.

All of this is mortifying! Particularly what you found, but just the process sounds horrible. The only T I really think of as "my T" was my first counselor, and she always told me that I had a right to see my file and the right to have it destroyed, which she said she did personally for her patients. This is just awful!

I haven't had any really quacky experiences, but I have an insane aunt who is a psychiatrist and totally batsh*t crazy. She's completely out of touch, and I know that she has abused medication for various things. The fact that she got through a bachelor's degree continues to astound me. There have been whispers that she slept her way through professors rather than worked through her doctoral. Yuck!
 
My first counselor, I dunno what he was exactly, didn't believe me at all. After a session (my last one), I went to drop some paperwork off for my fiance with his case manager and my counselor stormed into the office and started yelling about how all I wanted was attention and that the case manager shouldn't believe anything I said and I had no right to be talking to her anyways, and there's more but I don't remember. I just remember standing there in shock. After he left the case manager had me sit down in her office (she was very nice - she used to let me wait in her office instead of the waiting room because my social anxiety) and went and got the supervisor right then.

But now I always expect that my t doesn't believe me even though he's a really great guy and I have a lot of respect for him.
 
Oh IchBin!! Big Hugs! This is a person with PTSD's nightmare, to not be believed by those sent to help!!

She is a pest on this earth. Yes I have had terrible t's over a long period.------------

One smoked in session despite that I have severe sensitivities,

another ate in session despite that I was having food problems, one told me he loved me and then just stopped showing up!....,

another asked me if I did sexual favors,

one told me I did not want to get better because I did not walk 20 miles to get there,,

another said God would heal me if I REALLY wanted him to,

I could go on. It has been a long time.

A good T is hard to find!!! No more social workers. Now it is intelligent PhDs or nothing!!!
 
((((IchBin))))

That doesn't make you a liar, it makes her a REALLY SUPER LOUSY THERAPIST.

Some states allow you to put in a complaint against their license, but that isn't going to fix her lack of competence.

I didn't feel believed, either....but then again, who would believe some of my crap?

But my T. really helped me with that, because he promised me that HE believed that I believed my memories. Whether they happened that way or not, if I was lying, I'd still need help for that, then. LOL...I kept bringing in records and verification until I felt I had proved enough, though. Control freak that I am...

So sorry you got such a dud.

But I believe you. ...and I believe you have a LoT to be proud of in this situation....standing up for yourself, being committed to finding the help you need, seeking support here. ALL good stuff on your end, here!
 
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