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anthony
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Studies will help... but he's only conducting a study at present, nothing else. He isn't claiming it as a viable first line treatment for PTSD. Yes, it does work on some, though to date, the results have been very minor compared to other treatment types. If they can change the process and adapt it to work on a majority, then sure, it can become a viable treatment.
It's like saying coaching is a treatment for PTSD, when it isn't. Coaching is about boosting a persons beliefs in themselves, focusing them onto specific goals, so forth. All of these things can absolutely show an improvement in someone with PTSD, no doubt about it, yet it doesn't show any neurological results in lessening cognitive trauma impact, thus all the symptoms will return with a vengeance.
Running this forum for the years I have, I've seen a lot of come and go therapies. SGB is a huge craze, though is currently sliding off the radar because the results aren't showing what was hyped initially as a cure for PTSD. It helped a minor few who also suffered extreme pain as a result. Was it the pain causing symptoms and not PTSD? That is a question failing answers because the interview was done prior to the minor successes, thus symptoms can show as one thing because criterion A was met by having lived through an extreme trauma, thus PTSD is on the table when such symptoms are present.
The problem is that the few it worked on, was it the pain causing the symptoms which was alleviated via SGB?
EMDR started in a dreadful place, did a lot of damage to people within its initial phases and conceptions. Over a decade or so it got tweaked and honed into what it is today, being a leading treatment in trauma with a majority success rate.
Can they do the same with neurofeedback? Sure... if it demonstrates the cognitive changes at the neurological level that the other Tier 1 trauma treatments show under MEG, CAT and such imaging.
Things change in time... but right now, it is a drop in the bucket and does little good overall. Bessel van der Kolk is a leading expert on PTSD, absolutely... yet he was also one to try and get CPTSD recognised and push cross categorisation of existing diagnoses, instead of sticking with individual diagnoses applied logically as and when they are present uniquely. He is a pioneer and may trump something positive from this... or he may simply be trying to get recognition of something minority into the big league. Time will tell, but right now, neurofeedback has little impact on treating PTSD with success.
It's like saying coaching is a treatment for PTSD, when it isn't. Coaching is about boosting a persons beliefs in themselves, focusing them onto specific goals, so forth. All of these things can absolutely show an improvement in someone with PTSD, no doubt about it, yet it doesn't show any neurological results in lessening cognitive trauma impact, thus all the symptoms will return with a vengeance.
Running this forum for the years I have, I've seen a lot of come and go therapies. SGB is a huge craze, though is currently sliding off the radar because the results aren't showing what was hyped initially as a cure for PTSD. It helped a minor few who also suffered extreme pain as a result. Was it the pain causing symptoms and not PTSD? That is a question failing answers because the interview was done prior to the minor successes, thus symptoms can show as one thing because criterion A was met by having lived through an extreme trauma, thus PTSD is on the table when such symptoms are present.
The problem is that the few it worked on, was it the pain causing the symptoms which was alleviated via SGB?
EMDR started in a dreadful place, did a lot of damage to people within its initial phases and conceptions. Over a decade or so it got tweaked and honed into what it is today, being a leading treatment in trauma with a majority success rate.
Can they do the same with neurofeedback? Sure... if it demonstrates the cognitive changes at the neurological level that the other Tier 1 trauma treatments show under MEG, CAT and such imaging.
Things change in time... but right now, it is a drop in the bucket and does little good overall. Bessel van der Kolk is a leading expert on PTSD, absolutely... yet he was also one to try and get CPTSD recognised and push cross categorisation of existing diagnoses, instead of sticking with individual diagnoses applied logically as and when they are present uniquely. He is a pioneer and may trump something positive from this... or he may simply be trying to get recognition of something minority into the big league. Time will tell, but right now, neurofeedback has little impact on treating PTSD with success.