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Persecution From Others

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mamachick

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Eight years ago I seperated from my husband of 17 years. We had always gone our own ways, this made it official. After a month, I told my 3 sisters. The first was really mad, said that I had an obligation to my children, that she liked my husband and how could it be bad. She wanted ne to argue and tell his bad qualities. The second sis said I should wait til my children were raised in 10 more years. The third was more understanding. Any issue in my life was under approval of the sisters. Two would not speak to me for 7-8 years as a result and then only when they had to. One kept contacting the ex to complain about me but he put a stop to it. This is an example of how they treat me on a regular basis. Interfering with my parenting, my going back to school, what I have served for dinnet if they are here. Anything and everything. Nothing nice to say about me I diid not like it but chould not change it so just had no contact. Five years ago a had an accidnet an got a traumatic brain injury. Then they criticize my symptoms. Ive been told that I do too much, and Ive been told that I faked it. Constant persecution from them until I just avoid then all now. I have come to having feelings of persecution in general, not with everyone, but with other-. These feelings have worsened since the TBI and PTSD. I am different since then but am wondering if anywon else has these feelings when syptoms are active. Because of this, I kind of avoid all and isolate. Has anyone felt this and have you isolated as a result. Dont know who is going to force judgements on me next-better alone. I know all of this has led me to feel victimiszed, lonely, distrusting,.

A big problem for me is depression and feeling of foreshortened life. In the past 5 yrs since this, I cant remember getting encouragement from anyone to get my life back on track, just mistake Ive made and how I have changed.
Does feelings of persecution lead to believing in a foreshortened life? If anybody know I would appreciate information and your own experience. Im feeling really bad because I have no confidence to do anything so I just isolate. Thanks
 
((((Brat17)))), we tend to believe more all the negative things than the good things. Especially when it comes from the family. I too underwent a great deal of persecution when I was a kid, but being in the type of dysfunctional home conditionned me to be very observant, helped me to analyse and come to conclusions to find solutions = I never got under 90% when attending University for my research courses as those where the basic qualities that we needed. What have you gained as strenght through all that persecution ? If you hadn't gained some inner ressource / talent, then you certainly wouldn't be here !
 
Stopped by my sisters for the first time in a couple of years the other day (well ok she was home)

Knocking on the door was wrong (the cat might get out)
Stood there with a cup of coffee but the thought of offering me one (200k round trip) didnt occur to her
Got accused of being so 'lucky' (pfft..she was the spoilt rotten little princess and I worked my butt off)
Told her I was just now getting use of 2 hands back but it had taken nearly 5 months (I might have well have said I ate an egg for breakfast)

Her response? Not asking what happened or if I was doing ok now or anything about what I've been through. Her response was...Oh the trouble she's having with her washing machine, and making up her mind between the 2 top models (while putting a case why *someone else* should pay for it to save her from some imaginary criticism from some person who may or may not exist for not having that washing machine)

In short. They are addicted to themselves and it all being one way. Is there a cure? Doubt it. The most foul cup of tea I have ever had in my life, which was only produced on request, sat and went half cold. That was wrong too after all the 'effort and expense' she went to.

Seriously is there a cure for that?

I just patted the cat and left. She'd never make the effort to come here again and that actually makes me happy. She'd move in for a month, eat me out of house and home, help herself to anything she wanted, smash what she couldnt (then blame me) and only leave when there was someone else she could pull that shite on.

Its not only me. It happens to everyone. So I just see it how it is and pat the cat and leave. What else can you do?

EDIT: Great post Froggie and very very true.
 
I too received a lot of criticism when I separated from my now ex-husband. He is a very good man but a very controlling husband (he wants what he wants, which left no room for what I wanted). I realized I had to leave to find any happiness in life. My family, co-workers, friends, did not understand because he is such a good person and even now my mother will wonder aloud why we divorced.

I have depression and feelings of foreshortened life, but my reasons are different from the divorce. I don't really know if the feelings have anything to do with being persecuted (for me).

Hugs to you and hope you find your answer. I agree with Froggie in that you must possess an inner strength to have come this far.
 
IUp until 5 yrs ago, my belief about life was that it was my family that would be the meanest to me, that would kick me when I was down, that hoped I would fail. I only believed this about my sisters and had many examples to back it up.
When I had this accident, I also had a brain injury so its difficult to seperate TBI and PTSD symptoms. Regardless of what caused it, I had pain and sleep difficulties, concentration and focusing problems and confusion, etc. and consequently difficulty asserting myself. For a period I was very angry and my words pissed others off. I had to re-evaluate how I communicated. Raising two teens alone-they were often oppositional which is normal, but difficult for me. During that time, I dated 2 men-neither wanted me to work. Both sabatoged my work (intentionally or unintentionally), I was assaulted by someone in my home. After this, I had the sense of foreshortened life. This leave the feeling that there is nothing I can do and dont even care.

Last summer I was moving forward little by little. I had surgery in august and 2 wks later my sisters husband died and she came to stay with me-indefinately. Soon she was ordering me around, screaming, manipulating. This caused me to be the target of all my sisters once again. This seemed to mulitiply the feelings of being disliked in general. She did leave after a few months. Since this time, I have isolated horribly. Deep down, I expect to be the target of anyone. I dont have much trust. I remember my therapist mention my feeling persecuted but we never addressed. I recently read something about that and it was associated with being paranoid???

My analogy is-nobody can really kick you when you are already on the ground. There is no pleasure in beating the dead. If I would try to get up, Im sure I would be kicked down again. Its a general feeling and not with my sisters as I have no contact with them. It is the feeling that this is just the way it is in my world and I am much to tired to fight so I just isolate and do nothing. Im exhausted.

When you have the sense of foreshortened future-is there also depression or is the lack of motivation and interest just the result of the belief that its does not matter?

I dont know if this makes sense but I thought I needed to at least clarify what I was trying to say
 
You are all right!!!
As I hear and know from my own experience, there are a lot of people that think they know how others should live when they are not asked. Umm, and if we wont listen, they want to persecute/punish. How insane is that? Its one thing if it involves them, really intrusive when it has no effect what so ever on their life.
Too bad families are often the worst.
 
In short. They are addicted to themselves and it all being one way. Is there a cure? Doubt it. The most foul cup of tea I have ever had in my life, which was only produced on request, sat and went half cold. That was wrong too after all the 'effort and expense' she went to.

Seriously is there a cure for that?

Hi Jacquie,

You have just painted a fabulous picture of my older sister! They could be twins :p Actually, my whole family!

Self absorbed is an understatement. Everything is my fault, I am expected to take care of my family. They call me their 'slave' and treat me like one too - my Mother actually tells everyone I am her personal slave. If choose not to help them or not do exactly what they ask, I am either ignored or called 'evil' (my older sister has actually called me that to my face).

Examples: My older sister had a heap of old baby stuff she didn't know what do do with. I suggested SHE give it to charity, sell it on ebay, take it down to a second-hand store and get some cash for it. Then, the next week, all the stuff arrived on my doorstep for me to 'deal with'! I had it delivered right back to her doorstep - now that was wrong of me because they were expensive things and I could just store them with an external storage company (which I don't have) that I would have to set up and pay for!

When I have achieved anything or have any happy moment in my life, they ruin it. When I got engaged - my sister made comments completely inappropriate about my husband and the reason for our engagement in front of my whole family, at my engagement party - I was humiliated. Did my family do or say anything to her? No, why? because I am not permitted to be happy. When I got my first job, I took my family our to dinner to celebrate - they behaved so badly that the restaurant staff kicked them out. But that was my fault, because I 'could afford to take them out for a nice dinner'. What the???

If I have something wrong with my health, they are worse, have had it for years, or I brought it on myself. Or the other classic is that there is nothing wrong with my health at all, I am just 'temperamental', 'difficult', 'a hand full'. Well, yes, having a family like this would make any normal person a little bit frustrated! And to add to this - when my husband asked my fathers permission to marry me, those exact words, 'temperamental', 'difficult', 'a handfull' were used to describe me to my (then) fiance - thank god he ignored that!

If I ask for help, the automatic response is 'what about me??' (EXACT WORDS). Then, I am told that it was my fault for asking for their help, the problem was that I surprised them, they wanted to help me but I didn't give them enough time - what?? I asked to store some boxes in their double garage for a short period of time. That's all I asked for, and it took 6 months for them to offer up the name of a storage company that I would have to PAY to store with, rather than letting me use a little bit of their DOUBLE garage!

Even worse, my parents invite their friends over for a dinner party. Then start by complaining that they can't cook. So I cook - when I am not even invited. They take the credit for the great meal and then introduce me to the dinner guests saying 'this is what's wrong with' ME. So the WHOLE dinner party start telling me how to live my life, because I am not good enough in one respect or another. My parents encourage STRANGERS to criticize me and me and my life! Then when I stand up for myself and tell the guests that they have NO RIGHT to tell me how to live my life and that they don't know anything about me - I get told off for embarrassing them and being rude to their guests - RUDE?? Isn't it rude for a group of strangers to criticize someone they don't even know!?!

Another classic example, my sister asked me to stay with her while she was 7 months pregnant and her husband was travelling on business. I stay over one night, the next morning at 6am, I walk into the lounge to say good morning, and without even being offered a tea or coffee, or (god forbid) some cereal for breakfast, I was told to leave 'because the nanny was coming to take care of her 3yr old son'! What does that have to do with rushing out of the apartment without even a coffee?? Then she had the nerve to ask me to stay over again when her husband was on another business trip a couple of weeks later! What did I say - No. I'm busy.

Lately, I am in trouble for not sending birthday gifts to my nephews, but my older sister DOESN'T even invite me to their birthday parties!!! Do I send them presents? Nope. Not until I get an invitation to a birthday party and even then, I probably won't turn up as I will be given a task of baby sitting with no food or drink for hours (did actually happen). Instead, I'll just have something delivered.

When I told my other (younger) sister that I was unwell and having a very difficult time (first diagnosed with PTSD) - she responded immediately by telling how great things were for her, how she was getting an award at work, and a promotion and they were sending her to Germany on a business trip. This was when she knew I used to be very successful career woman, and had told her that my Drs said that I could no longer work because of my condition! That made me feel soooooo much better!

This is just the day to day, superficial activities - there is a great deal of skeletons in the family closet. But I won't discuss that here. The problem in the family is the central control unit - my father. He is the one manipulating, ecouraging and controlling everything.

Sorry for the longest response ever!! Just really empathize with you and maybe I'm a little riled up about how nasty family can be.

Is there a cure?? Yes and No....Nope. People this selfish don't believe in self reflection, therefore, have no capacity to change, evolve or improve themselves. Yep. It comes with age - they eventually die (I'm a little cynical).
 
OMG PTDS S. We're related. We must be. Seriously, you just described the idiots I lived with for so many years.

Right down to invite someone or announce a party then I ended up spending 2 days cleaning their damned house AND supplying food (at my own expense) etc

I dont do it any more (snigger) but they dont like it much and are nastier than ever. Oh well.
 
What's interesting is what you said Brat
My analogy is-nobody can really kick you when you are already on the ground. There is no pleasure in beating the dead. If I would try to get up, Im sure I would be kicked down again. Its a general feeling and not with my sisters as I have no contact with them. It is the feeling that this is just the way it is in my world and I am much to tired to fight so I just isolate and do nothing. Im exhausted.

I have no understanding why I wouldn't stay down. We use to watch boxing when I was growing up and the guy that stayed down lost all respect...in my home you got destroyed if you stayed down...you had to get out of sight!
 
OMG PTDS S. We're related. We must be. Seriously, you just described the idiots I lived with for so many years.

Right down to invite someone or announce a party then I ended up spending 2 days cleaning their damned house AND supplying food (at my own expense) etc

I dont do it any more (snigger) but they dont like it much and are nastier than ever. Oh well.

I knew we were related Jacquie ;) :P

Good on you for not taking it anymore. They are grown adults and can do these things themselves! It is their responsibility, not yours or mine.

If they don't like it, well that's their problem. And, if they want to be nasty and petty about it, we need to dig our heels in more my love ;). Your (and my) happiness is far more important than their pathetic adult tantrums. And, that's all they are temper tantrums!

Love, L
 
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