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Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing - Any Experience? Has It Helped?

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Sometimes, it is hard.
And without guidance, sometimes the answer is just not there as to how to complete it. I mean, during the trauma we couldn't do it right? Catch us early enough and we may never know the answer to get to healthy completion. The trick is in giving the mind a 'different ending' that it can let the body 'experience'. And some of us truly don't know what that ending is.

Quick experience that I learned this by.
A friend was helping me. My way. He didn't like it. I insisted so he did. I can be pretty persuasive when I want to be. :whistling: Who would know that about me?

I was sick and tired of being afraid for my physical being. I had never been like that - never in my life. It was ruining me. So I had him be menacing to me. Had him watch my reaction. (before you get all upset, keep in mind, I am the chick who doesn't feel pain). Had him lead me to finish it properly.

I stood in front of him crying, shaking, my brain absolutely locked. He told me to finish it. (he didn't hurt me). I didn't see there was an out. He would stand back and wait for me to figure it out. I couldn't. My brain just spun. I just shook. Fetal in standing position is hard but I somehow did it. We tried it several times and I just got more and more frantic. The energy in me with no place to go was unbelievable.

He stood back and kept saying what do you need to tell me to do? I had no f*cking idea. None. My brain had no concept of 'out'. So then he said it. It was so freaking simple. Shimmerz, tell me to stop. My brain stopped spinning, my body still shaking.

STOP????? I can do that? I can tell you to stop???? 1.simple.f*cking.word. Stop. Took me at least 5 times to say it, the whole night to be able to look at him and say it. 3 months of practicing irl (not in the same way) before i believed it. I don't shake and quiver over it anymore. Someone had to tell me .... and it was such a simple thing.

For some of us, we need to be taught. That goes for body things too.
 
You are right @shimmerz. I am glad you have a friend who is willing to go through that with you. Sometimes, I don't realize that I can just say NO and the world will keep spinning, my life will continue, and nothing horrible is gonna happen.
 
Sort of sidenote: it's been helpful to work on greater somatic awareness and just realizing I have choices and can DO something usually when I feel trapped (often still takes time to recognize I'm stuck). Like lots of pain today and knowing certain kinds of music help me just lay on my back and rest. For 4.5 minutes. Then a little more later. Little bits of being okay slowing down.

But I leave the trauma resolution stuff to therapy. If I'd even try to manage and somehow release on my own I enter into freeze way too easily. Also, shaking isn't always a sign of some sort of trauma release. I've learned about my various forms of shaking. Done the right way for me (extremely, ridiculously slow bits) it is a release and way of reorganizing my nervous system. But there are lots of areas of freeze in my body and if I'm not immobilized, but trying to come out somehow, I often shake as my body is totally torn between what feel like impossible responses (or felt that way at the time and my body really has a hard time learning to follow a fight or flight response...so far self-protection by covering or burying myself is easiest and most calming). In this stuck scenario where nothing feels right I can shake very badly and it feels terrible and impossible, not like any sort of good release. It's not uncommon to shake when scared or purely terrified. So the shaking bit can be confusing.

Anyway, for me it's not like the youtube videos where you seem to go in for a couple appointments, shake for a long time, and everything is better. It's a longer process of noticing, slowing down, feeling safe, releasing stuff, going through miles of protective responses, processing things on a body and bit of cognitive level as I see how patterns affect my daily life, etc.

I think one-time shock trauma that is pretty well remembered would respond to fewer sessions than complex, developmental traumas or trauma that happened while unconscious or fully dissociated. The goal then is to super carefully access those body memories and stuck responses while staying totally present and aware. Sort of a fuzzy line and I think even with a good therapist it takes time to recognize how this all works in an individual. Being able to respond verbally to my therapist helps us both know I am still aware. If I can't respond there is no push. If I tip over the edge and go limp (doesn't happen often) there are quick ways to reground. Helps when my therapist literally holds my feet to the ground.
 
Thanks for this thread you guys! "The Body Keeps the Score" was recommended to me by my current SE therapist, and thanks for reviewing it here! Peter Levine also has a book called "Freedom from Pain" which I am planning to read someday soon. If it is any good maybe I will start or join a thread about living with physical pain. Again, thank you all for this thread. I will pore over all this discussion tonight.
 
I've said it before. SE saved my life. Complex early trauma that cognitive and emdr weren't touching - actually my symptoms were getting worse. Luckily my T has trained extensively with Levine and Scaer. She also incorporates brainspotting, bilateral stimulation, emdr, and other modalities into session with the SE. Basically whatever works at the moment.

I'd recommend starting with Levine's Waking the Tiger. It's more basic and less overwhelming. I've read just about all his work. Right now I'm trudging through Scaer's Trauma Spectrum. Read the last four chapters first. Really great.
 
@NewDayTomorrow If you have a solid basis I'd highly recommend Trauma Spectrum. Levine and Scaer lecture together at clinical trainings. Scaer is a more entertaining writer than Levine. Another book that changed my life is Living In the Borderland. It's a clinical book but a good read.
 
SE is, and has helped me more than anything else I've ever tried (meds, talk therapy, animal therapy, EMDR, yoga). Gotta wonderful amazing trauma-specific therapist who keeps normalizing things for me by relating how she went through her own trauma and can speak from actual experience. My sessions are 60min weekly for the past 9 months and apparently I've got a while to go in this process, which stinks.

How it goes is usually the second my rear hits that couch at the beginning of the hour she asks me what it feels like to be sitting there on the couch (and I always start by rolling my eyes and answering "Uh, good."). She then asks how I know it's "good" and makes me define in words what sitting there on that couch feels like. She prompts me to go through from my feet on up, trying to form words to identify each body section with words for texture, temperature and shape (so like: "my toes are scrunching up in my sneakers, they feel hot & stinky; I can feel my elbows resting on the arm of the couch, it feels soft; I can feel the couch against my back; my throat is tight" etc). I usually fight this pretty hard; not intentional. I just really don't know half the time I have feet until someone reminds me I actually have a body and it's supposed to feel things. I struggle with this weekly exercise and she calls me on my b.s. each time I try to give a pat answer. She observes me very closely and I feel like a goldfish most times.

This is called Scanning or Tracking. She urges me to scan the body between sessions and just notice what I feel. At home I go out to my tomato garden and just breath, inhale & smell (I love the smell of the plants!). Then I pause, stand still and just notice what I feel and where in my body. Like if my feet are tapping, not try to stop them, not try to make them go faster. Just say to myself, "Oh gee, I notice my feet are tapping. Okay, cool." And be curious about it. That's it. The idea of this is to train my neurons during times of calm that when I get anxious to try and just notice what I'm feeling. And recognize that I'm no longer in "danger" no matter what my body might feel like.

So then after the awful weekly couch-drill, she asks what I want to work on that day (and being the ever pain-in-the-arse I always answer with, "I dunno"). So we usually go into Resourcing. She gets me talking about something pleasant: for me it's usually nature. This week I was walking the dog and I spotted a tree made out of birds! There was this huge flock of green-belly birds (no idea what kind) that looked like some sort of hummingbirds, like 300 of them, just fluttering all together inside this huge beautiful magnolia tree. I sat there for several minutes just watching all those birds flutter there together all at the same time in harmony. It was so peaceful. I felt relaxed, the sky was beautiful, clear blue sky, even the dog was calm sitting there watching them (probably thinking, "Please let one drop, yay bird-lunch!"). Then in a moment they all flew away in a massive cloud of birds. It was great. So I retell that story to the therapist yesterday and she gets me to dissect what I felt in that exact moment. And she directs me to pull that image up (or try to) when I get anxious at home. Some people have lots of resources, some people have one or two. I've got 4 identified so far in my 9 months (my tomato garden, a story about ladybugs, couple of others). I have a hard time 'resourcing' or calling up my image on my own in session sometimes. She prompts me there, and directed me to print out some pictures of birds, ladybugs on my wall at home, and also use the images as the screensaver on my phone.

Titration we usually do next. She asks me to think of something mildly upsetting, not verbalize it, just think of it and let her know when I have it set in my mind. Sometimes, I'm perfectly fine. Sometimes we talk about it. Other times she watches me very close and tells me I'm not breathing, or she saw my jaw tighten, or asks what I'm noticing. She calls it getting "activated" and I usually give a b.s. response just to have something normal-like to say. She then asks where I feel the activation in my body, to name it, going back to the "feeling/scanning/tracking" exercise.

TMI-warning...
don't know how it is for others but I mentally check-out when I get activated. I do this "I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm fine, I'm totally good, really, nope-no problem... ... ..." [now I'm no longer verbally responsive, I'm no longer mentally in the room, still sitting on the couch, probably look normalish enough but my monkey-mind totally takes over and I do the stop breathing-bit]. I can still hear & physically respond to most directions but apparently I stop making eye contact and completely go mute for a few minutes I'm told. My vision gets "dim" and it takes a bit to shake it off and come back to the room & into my head enough to speak again. I stutter sometimes for a bit afterwards. Yeah, yeah, I know it's called dissociation and she names it as that but I just really hate that word.

So when this happens she verbally guides me to keeping my eyes open, she stays calm & constantly talking with a warm yoga-rich "it's all okay" voice, and she reminds me to think about my resources. When I regain speech again I usually start babbling about my resource and then I end up feeling foolish... but then I'm okay. Mentally back in the game. She tells me this is common with her clients and not to judge. We haven't really tried with too terribly much hard-core trauma memories yet. This is the goal but for now we're just working on simple stuff.

Which leads me to Pendulation. The idea behind this in SE is to swing back and forth from something upsetting to your resource, being able to calm yourself. I really haven't shared any awful trauma details with her (not like I need to as my situation was newsworthy), but she doesn't ask me to go into anything awful yet. She only brings up a little upset at a time each week. The idea is not to become overwhelmed because when I check-out she says I'm not processing anything.

This week she we had a intellectual discussion about Container and Compartmentalization of self. The analogy we talked about was that 9 months ago when I started with SE I knew I had this big beehive of a mess of trauma that I only knew enough to stay away from. Now, I've progressed to the point that I can see the inside of the hive, I know the internal honeycomb is there, lots of little containers of trauma all with one string woven through them all. And I'm progressing to the point of being able to take one container out at a time, deal with it and put it back, knowing I won't become overwhelmed or fall through the floor or something else stupidly melodramatic. I can actually see the progress I'm making in SE as opposed to all the other therapy types I've tried over these past few years.

Don't know if this is for everyone but SE is seriously working for me. My issues are many; never an official diagnosis label other than symptomology of anxiety, nightmares, bad insomnia, super-bad migraines, non-specific joint pain, hyperventilation, yacking at work, isolating from everyone, the mentally checking-out bit. All I've heard (or wanted to hear) was you gotta "trauma history"; childhood, adult DV, disaster, ex-ff/paramedic.

I really fight the putting words to what I'm feeling bit. Therapist tells me it's due to my being young during my... traumatic situation... so that I didn't have the words back then to express what my body was going through. She talks all about how amazing the human mind is that it can "dissociate from perceived danger" (yeah, b.s.!) and how we're working on my learning how to reintegrate the self and learn to be "okay" with the checking out stuff, to learn to "make friends with it" (yeah, more b.s.!) and learn that I can soothe myself (sometimes better than others). I came on here tonight to see if I can make myself a little word list/cheat sheet with a bunch of 'feeling' words to use in session. Which is why I figured I could offer a bit of my personal experience in SE if it could possibly help anyone else.

Sorry for the book. Thanks for the opportunity to share.
 
@jedijackie that is the absolute best explanation of an SE therapy session that I've ever read. Well done. Hope this helps some folks.
 
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