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Just wondering if there are any supporters/sufferers here who have post cult related PTSD, who would be...
I was in a cult for 8 years at an age when I should have known better. I was middle aged (45) never married, fat and scorned for it. I also wrote poetry. I was introduced to a charming astrologer who also wrote poetry and he basically love bombed me for months. Praised my writing, gave me gifts, said I was beautiful. Then invited me to some Eastern Religion classes he was teaching. I took him as my Guru. He took me for my meager money, office skills, devotion and as a draw for poetry evenings. Then it turned out he was in relationship secretly with someone in the group. I was devastated but kept attending classes and expensive seminars determined to show my love by service. Over time I began to be out of favor and he started to belittle me, say cruel things about me, called a coward even though I already had PTSD from childhood sexual abuse. I finally left and after about a year he phoned me, all charm and compliments and invited me back to the group. Somehow I was able to decline as I knew I would be scapegoats again. So, what sense I finally came to is that I was vulnerable because I wasn't loved and suddenly felt loved by someone. It was my drug. Then if I couldn't remain loved, I stayed to have a purpose in my otherwise empty life. Eight years I was in. And while the spirituality part I could compartmentalize, I finally realized I was being abused. Leaving and telling him no I would not return helped re-empower me. I also went into intense therapy with a PTSD specialist. Four years later, I still go every two weeks. But I am stronger now and healing. So, the three triggers for me were love/acceptance, service/purpose and psychological abuse which I was conditioned to accept from earlier trauma. Look for his triggers, encourage therapy, and take care of yourself too. It is seductive to feel needed to fix someone else. Don't go there.
 
Too broad question. It would help knowing what type of a cult he was in & roughly in what time of his life, and how far he's in terms of recovery - included contact with the group(s) & its ideology, if applicable.

Lifetime of that history, here, but ultimately found the simplest advice I've received is also the most true one. 'It's up to you, so make your choices the wisest you can'. Not that I adhere to the second half of it, but we'll get there.

To clarify: Knowing there are choices, in situations that were not perceived. And viable choices, in situations where OR was lacking and too shaded by the either..., part of control. Asking the '... else what?'s one is too scared/anxious/what have you, to ask.
 
Yes I grew up in a cult/sect that led to me having PTSD. I agree with what Cashew said, each "victim" has a different story so it is hard to generalize. I found this quote. The book can be found in Google.

"Spirituality and Psychiatry" by Chris Cook

Chapter 13, Pathological Spirituality, p. 267-269

Post-cult psychopathology
"Leaving a cult-style group is often a traumatic experience. The way individuals leave may have an impact on their recovery process. They may walk away, be expelled (Singer, 2003), leave by means of an intervention by an ethical ‘cult exit-counsellor’ (Giambalvo, 1995) or leave when their parents leave the cult (Kendall, 2006)...."

And...

"The term‘cult pseudo-identity’ describes the phenomenon where a person’s identity has been distorted or altered, and as a result a different persona emerged. It is well acknowledged that certain types of childhood trauma can be psychodynamically understood as contributing to a resulting clinical picture of dissociative identity disorder or other conditions along the same spectrum, such as fugue, amnesia or somnambulism. Not so well studied, however, is how particular forms of environmental stress in adults can disrupt the normally integrative function of identity. A pseudo- identity can be generated by particular types of external stress in a person who may have previously been quite free of any signs or symptoms of personality malfunction (West & Martin, 1996; Jenkinson, 2008). There can be an abrupt switching back and forth between behaviours characteristic of the two identities, with the new personality primarily reflecting the new situational forces and requirements. Lalich (2004) suggests that the pre-cult personality fades into the background, whereas the cult persona emerges and becomes stronger:

This is not schizophrenia, not the eruption of a split personality, as might be described in the psychology literature. Rather, the cult member undergoes the development of a personality that stands for, and with, the newly adopted world view and its practices. Total and unquestioning commitment requires a new self [Lalich, 2004: p. 19].

And..

Treatment
Psychiatric and psychotherapeutic help is unlikely to be of benefit to former members unless the full history and context of their cult involvement is known and understood (Martin, 1993; Singer, 2003). Psychiatric care will be dictated by the nature of the illness, the pre-morbid personality and the patient’s remaining available strengths.

Specialist counselling with first-generation cult members needs to focus on:

•discerning between cult-induced psychopathology and inherent mental illness; attention to what the individual has been taught in the group will be necessary;
•education aimed at empowering the ex-cult member to understand their cult experience and undo indoctrinated teachings, beliefs and practices that compromise their autonomy;
•addressing cult-related issues before any childhood or family of origin issues;
•disarming shame (cults often use shame as a control mechanism (Lalich & Tobias, 2006) and ex-members can feel a sense of shame at having been involved);
•attending to post-traumatic stress and post-traumatic stress disorder; •reconnecting with the pre-cult personality and moving away from the cult pseudo-identity (which may include changing appearance, reconnecting with creativity and learning to trust family, friends and new people) (Jenkinson, 2008);
•integrating the experience and moving on (see Langone, 1993; Martin,
1993; Hassan, 2000; Singer, 2003; Lalich & Tobias, 2006).


John Clarke, from Harvard Medical School, in 1979 testified before a special committee of the Vermont State Senate investigating ‘the effects of some religious cults on the health and welfare of their converts’. In his statement he cited the known health hazards, both physical and psychological, and concluded:

The fact of a personality shift in my opinion is established. That this is a phenomenon basically unfamiliar to the mental health profession I am certain of. The fact that our ordinary methods of treatment don’t work is also clear, as are the frightening hazards to the process of personal growth and mental health [Conway & Siegelman, 2005: p. 78]."

I know it is a lot of babble. But it really helped me to read, because most doctors don't know how to proceed and there is a lot of confusion in terms of diagnosis and treatment. And I just really appreciated reading it as a confirmation if everything I have been going through.
I have been doing Schematic Therapy and this helped me also to understand the different modes or selves that work within me which is through the sect experiences even stronger, like mentioned above. I have the part of me that left my ex husband and the sect and knows it was the right thing to do and the part that is scared and somehow stills wants to to back to feel protected, and the other part that is horrified if the idea. It is a conflict of identity that really influences my daily life. But through understanding the different parts it easier to deal with them, give them love and attention from the healthy adult part of me that knows what to do.
I am a second generation cult survivor though so this can be different for first generation survivor. This is also explained in the article but I didn't want to post the whole thing because I thought it would be too much.

I hope that helps. I think there is so much more to be said on the subject and there ought to be a whole section meant for this. Maybe a good suggestion?
 
Yes I grew up in a cult/sect that led to me having PTSD. I agree with what Cashew said, each "victim" has...
wow. Just... Wow. Thank you. Those quotes, and I will be looking up the full references, said in the most succinct fashion what I've experienced.

I'm second generation, but was born into and raised in a cult. Somehow I managed to extract myself, but the confusion over who I am, without its influence has been..I don't have words. Thank you thank you.
 
I’m not sure how helpful. But when I was a teenager my father joined a cult of sorts that “claimed” they were Christians. While some people in group had best of attentions, and good people…in the end a mainstream cult (Jehovah Witnesses.)

I'm not judging all Jehovah Witnesses - many are good people - other's cult.

We went to family counseling with them as a teenager. After several meetings first time I ever saw my mom get so upset ---- they tried to use Bible to tell my mom that she and her kids needed to “obey our father --- even if he was abusing us.”

Present day my father wants nothing to do with me since I won’t accept Jehovah Witnes (cult) as my way of life. He seems “more concerned” with me converting to a Jehovah Witnesses than my own health. Even though they claim not to try to convert (BS from my experience.) Then blames it on me, and has stopped talking to me.

I have often asked – why can’t you just be a father for once?

In college I had classes on history of propaganda, and controlling people. Nazi’s used the same tactics they use.
 
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Thank you all for your responses. "My" sufferer was raised in a WCG offshoot, aka a cult. They instilled fear to control their members. Any family members who weren't a part of it, they weren't to have a relationship with. When I met him he had already left, on his own terms, and he was very open about his upbringing from the beginning. This cult controlled all aspects of his life. Right down to how he was to think, the emotions he was allowed to feel. his finances. His mother was an alcoholic who hid her true self well from the congregation. She abandoned her children after her divorce, in favour for drugs and alcohol, he was barely a teenager. He was happy after he left the cult. Enthusiastic about his new life. about me, and our future. We love each other very much, that never stopped. He developed ptsd about a year ago. Several years after leaving. It destroyed our relationship, things were going along as well as could be expected until recently. After several months of him not communicating with me at all and the push and pull of it, I lost my temper, I totally lost it with him. As a result he ended our relationship completely. He finds life in general very hard. I won't ever really understand what it was like for him. But the stories he has shared makes my blood boil and my skin crawl. I don't have an issues with people having faith, even though I'm an atheist. But when you manipulate and abuse people in the way they did, it disgusts me. Thank you to all of you, coming here is very comforting as none of my family or friends really understand.
 
Amanda, and what does he -have-? Words aren't everything there is. There's images, there's symbols, there's objects, there's whole wide of nature, there's music, there's movement / dance / play, there's art, there's ... whole wide world of things, to express by or find comfort in, when words are just lacking, not present, or would take away from the experience even when found.

And another thing: Silence & quiet are completely alright way to speak. (On purpose naming them as separate... not all silence is quiet, some is screaming as f*ck.)
 
He developed ptsd about a year ago. Several years after leaving. It destroyed our relationship, things were going along as well as could be expected until recently.

Just from my personal experience ptsd I thought could be managed.. (at least I thought) until certain highly stressful life events happens. Then downward spiral....

Any major events in his life around or before that time?

But the stories he has shared makes my blood boil and my skin crawl..

My skin still crawls. How could decent people belief, or think in such ways? To disown family? To accept abuse as normal?
 
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