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Relationship Ptsd And The Children Involved

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I have also heard many women say that the abusive parent is a really good father though. I dispute that strongly. A good father does not hurt the person the children love most, does not intimidate, threaten and abuse the childs mother. They are risking their childrens well being as much as a father who drives drunk, it is just less visible in the short term. The effects are insidious.

Yes my mother would say that (even though she was there when I was sexually abused, physically and verbally abused, hit, punched, smacked, tormented, insulted, kicked and watching the violence against her and the rest of my siblings (- with my siblings I used to stand up and in front with them.) )That type of thinking and discussion, is to me, the mother copping out on her responsibility, as a mother and a parent.

Particularly for male children they have a really hard time creating some type of identity and space to be in.

I read awhile ago that Australia has the highest rate of male youth suicide ages 15-25 in the world (yes more than Japan) and when you look at the stats that in NSW (a state of Australia) 1 in 4 families have some form of domestic violence then, for me, you kind of have your answer why - (of course there are a wide range of socio economic, cultural and other reasons that contribute to suicide as well)

Witness abuse and violence is just as bad as under going it - you have violated that child's sense of security and a sense of belonging in a safe place. And having the feeling that the world is safe no matter where you go - well most ptsd sufferers know what that is like - and that, couple with the helplessness of being a child is why I disassociate so much.
 
he refuses to see that he is the one doing this. Instead he just blames me, saying I changed, I'm not the same, I tick him off and that is why he goes off. But, I really just can't put my kids in that situation anymore. It's not healthy for them at all.

That type of excuse for his behaviour - that it is you that is at fault - is a little bit scary to me.

It also could be a strong indication that he will not get treatment and get better as he is not
even at the basics like identifying his behaviours, taking responsibility and working with an
appropriate mental health professional to moderate and change his behaviours.

It is hard enough to change when you are really working at it hard and busting a gut
but if you aren't even taking basic responsibility for your own behaviours - well
the outcome probably won't be that crash hot.
 
I'm a supporter and can probably give a lot of input here despite that fact that I'm going through my own tests yet again with my partner away from me.

There are two distinct and seperate issues involved in this discussion - children living with a parent/parental figure who has unmanaged PTSD and is therefore physically, emotionally, verbally, financially or sexually abusive, and children living with a parent/parental figure who is managing their PTSD the best they can and who is very clear on the boundaries of a relationship.


No matter what age the children - whether toddlers or teenagers or in their early twenties - they WILL be affected by what is happening around their environment. And supporters - this part is important - the ultimate responsibility for excluding unhealthy relationship behaviours lies with YOU. Tough call ? Trust me, I know. I've been there - and struggle with it daily. My journey right now is tough. But it's worse because I wasn't tough enough on MYSELF two years ago. And I was selfishly blind to the effects of my children. I allowed ptsd to be an excuse for his destructive behaviours towards me. I ENABLED. And guess what? To stop enabling means you need to start working on YOU. And in that sense, many of us supporters have to face our own denial.


Ironically I spent 6 months on a project about domestic violence. The job started at a time my partner has been what I call "in recovery" for about 12 months. Prior to that time he had displayed aggressive behaviours,blamed me and the childrens' behaviours for his outbursts, found "friends" who exacerbated his beliefs that I was the one to blame for the seperation and so on. A 3 month seperation, EMDR, individual counselling for both of us and discussions on boundaries in our relationship, led to a blissful 12 months. But he still did not want to see the link between his work and his triggers. And so over the last few months, the roller coaster of emotions started again, and inevitably the short fuse came with it. MY change of behaviour and his learning by working on parts of this project together caused a change in him this time. He left before his anger became uncontrollable.

Now I'm not saying this has made my life any easier but what it HAS done is taken away the often used "excuse" that the relationship is the problem. I'm not sitting here as I did 18 months ago trying to work out what I could have changed, what I might have done differently to make him happy and so on. He has space in his overflowing brain to think about what really DID cause this episode. He may or may not "wake up" to the truth. Either way, I'm not being hurt. And my children are observing a new and confident mum who has compassion and understanding whilst keeping herself safe.


I'll do a seperate post at some stage about the effects on children, and the importance for us unaffected by ptsd to get "real" with ourselves. Between my partner and I we have 3 children. Old enough now to talk about what did happen, what's happening now and what may or may not happen in the future. This time it's MY turn to change. I have choices. So does the sufferer. Both parties need to take responsibility for change. And fair or not - it's the supporters whose stress cup has more space to sort some of this stuff out rationally.
 
Really really really "like" horizons! Looking forward to the future post on effects on children....:tup:

Best wishes to all of you (us!) for a healthy healing new year...
 
Personally, at the risk of receiving an onslaught of negative responses, from what I have seen and read, I don't think anyone with unmanaged PTSD should even consider bringing children into the world until they have themselves sorted. Irrespective if they have a good supporter who is strong and if it's only the father who has PTSD.
 
I haven't been on here in awhile because sometimes its easier to just ignore the issues for awhile. But the discussion and comments are all very insightful and helpful.

My situation is a little different. I never felt anger directed at me; my daughter and I never felt threatened by my husband.

He was our rock, and he made us feel protected and safe in every situation. He was the one thing in life I thought would always be a sure thing. He was not the father of my daughter, but he was the one who showed up to all her school events to cheer her on. He could get her to open up when she was upset about something, and he was better than me at taking care of her when she was sick. Until about a year ago when he started pulling away from us, and then eventually left us.

He's told me all along that it wasn't about anything I have done. He says he just doesn't feel anything for anyone right now. But that doesn't make me feel any better, because I'm still going to bed alone every night, I've lost the only thing I was sure of, and my daughter has lost a huge chunk of her support system, and we don't really understand how or why.

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Personally, at the risk of receiving an onslaught of negative responses, from what I have seen and read, I don't think anyone with unmanaged PTSD should even consider bringing children into the world until they have themselves sorted. Irrespective if they have a good supporter who is strong and if it's only the father who has PTSD.
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I have to say I totally agree. I have seen too many children suffer and grow up with so much emotional
deprivation.

I would say that for other mental illnesses as well.
 
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