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PTSD? I Don't Get It

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Patrick that is a pretty funny response, you made me laugh again! Thank you. Keep practiceing the positive self talk it does make a big difference, it is worthwhile--keep doing it until it is real. Best to you. Flame
 
Pat,
Does it really matter what it's called? If you find friends and support here, you ARE in the right place. :Hug_emoticon:Mila
 
Hi Patrick.

I'd like to share an experience of mine for you, to give you something else to think about. (as if you need anymore!)

I was diagnosed with PTSD 7 years ago, and at the time I had all the symptoms. I was having flashbacks, not sleeping, panic attacks, dissociating, hypervigilence...Basically, I was a basket case.

I struggled through the symptoms, had two therapists helping me, and was given a workbook to help me through the PTSD. I was getting a lot of the work in the book done, and was starting to think that there would be an end to all of it. A year passed. I started to do okay in school, started to be able to sleep, my eating habits were back to normal, most of my symptoms were gone, I was flourishing once again.

It all blew up on me just over a year after my original diagnosis. I was kidnapped, tortured, and gang-raped by three "men" over a period of three days. After this assault, I kind of just completely numbed out. Of course, I went through a period of being a complete basket case...it was an awful month.

Then, one morning about a month after my attack I woke up and was fine. I wasn't having flashbacks, I wasn't dissociating, self harming, panicking, or anything. But I wasn't really there either. I became a shell. I had no emotions, couldn't react to anything. I don't even remember 90% of what happened in the years following. I somehow got through symptom free for 4 years. I pretty much forgot all about PTSD.

Yeah, I suffered from depression, and I did have one real big breakdown when a man approached me at a bus-stop claiming to have a gun, but other than that I wouldn't have said I had PTSD.

Then one day I walk into a restaurant with my boyfriend. It was completely random, neither of us had ever eaten there and we didn't even live near the place, but went in to eat. We had our seats, had ordered drinks, and were eating appetizers when all of a sudden my bf laughed and pointed out a man that was sitting over at the bar completely ignoring his companion, but pretending to listen. I looked over and watched the exchange, andI started to get an awful sinking feeling of recognition.

It was the man who had raped and abused me resulting in my original diagnosis of PTSD when I 16 years old. I started to react, and my bf noticing something was wrong was able to drag it out of me who it was. We left right away.

I was completely numb for the hour it took to get home, but when we got there it was as though a dam had burst. I cried, and cried until I thought my heart was actually breaking inside me. As I lay there on the bed sobbing in my boyfriends arms it all of a sudden occured to me that I had been raped.

Although I had been able to talk about my traumas in detail and acted as though I knew it happened, it was as though it was the first time I was finding out. The first time I felt anything to do with the second trauma that happened to me. It was too much. I can't describe the horrible sinking feeling of despair, rage, hopelessness and fear I went through that night as I fully realised the extent of the abuse that I had suffered at age 15 and then again at 17. I thought I would die laying on that bed going through those feelings for the first time.

After this realization all of my PTSD symptoms came back with a vengeance. I was worse than I had ever been originally, and I have never recovered from that moment. I am suffering from full blown Complex PTSD. I had a brain scan that determined I had the worst case of PTSD that any of my doctors had ever seen.

I struggle with the flashbacks, nightmares, panic attacks, depression, anxiety, dissociation and all the other crazy, awful symptoms of this disorder constantly.

I am trying to find help and hope, but I'd be lying if I said I was okay.

My point in telling you all this is so that you can see that you most likely do have PTSD, but that you have managed to block out your feelings SO well that is isn't manifesting as you seem to think it should from the textbook cases.

You say you aren't having flashbacks and most of the other symptoms. I say you're lucky in that regard, but it does not mean that you are not suffering, and that you are in the wrong place.

One thing I will say is if you have managed to block your feelings to the point that I did, when I was not suffering any PTSD symptoms, you may be in for a very rough time when exploring your PTSD.

I wish you luck in finding what you need to get through all the experiences you have coming. You are a valuable member here, and I do believe you're in the right spot. You say you feel you're a part of something here, and you are.

Keep on keeping on.
 
Luthien - thanks for sharing that much of your story. I'm more and more convinced of my PTSD. It was hard to admit at first. 39 years since my last real trauma, and while I have made a life, I am recognizing how some of my crazier behavior was the result of holding symptoms in check. And yeah, I have been going through some pretty rough times in treatment. One of my defenses is putting on a good front, so it may not show much. Appreciate your care and concern.
 
everyones different. I oscillate between extreme agitation (lots of swearing and on a knife edge) and bouts of horrible depression. Both are rubbish! Currently on 3-4 weeks down and a week up.

I did that putting on a front thing for 11 years after my car crash. Sll it is is shoving the monster back in the cupboard.
 
Hi I'm new to the site and have ptsd pretty bad i guess. I lost my rank because I had a soldier walk around to keep warm, I can't be a soldier any more and now I am shambling through life as a civie trying to get right. At work since I'm not seeing a doc right now I talk about some things and I am now at risk for loosing my job.
What is their I can do to make it better? Once I left the military it was a culture shock and sometimes I catch myself doing sector scans and being extremely paranoid.
 
Intrusive Thoughts

I am just abusing the heck out of this thread. Maybe I should start a trauma diary, but there is so much I just can't remember. Some memories are starting to come back, though.

When I got this PTSD diagnosis and started treatment a couple of months ago, I didn't really think I had it. None of the more disturbing symptoms, and though I had pretty much made a mess of my life, I was doing okay. The more therapy I have, the more symptoms I get. I learned this week that a major trigger for me is being told about or getting treatment for medical problems, especially chronic ones. Now it seems that just going to the VA hospital at all is a trigger.

Had to go there again today to see a shrink about the stupid anti-depressant I'm on. He told me to up the dosage...again. Shit! But the VA hospital is such a sad place. Crowded. Old vets with haunted expressions, some with horrifying physical maiming. Old guys in wheelchairs with oxygen and yellowish or ghostly pale skin........and a lot of younger guys just starting down the long road to somewhere. God I hope they get what they need and get better before they get old.

One of my biggest fears has always been to grow old alone, sick and poor. Nobody to love or be loved by. It seems like I've spent my life heading in that direction and lately I've been obsessed by the idea that it's just a matter of time. And not that much time either.

One of my newest symptoms seems to be obtrusive thoughts. Lately I've been having these old memories of the time I spent in an army hospital 39 years ago. It's not like I freak out or anything; I can ususally get a handle on myself pretty quick. I just would rather not remember this shit, and it comes to me unbidden.

There have been a couple of times in the last few days when I thought maybe I should go up to the VA hospital and turn myself into the loony bin. The very thought of it horrifies me. The first time I saw a my therapist she told me this could take a while, and that I could get worse before I get better. How long...and how much worse? Sorry to be such a sniveller. I don't know what the hell is going on with me and I don't like it.
 
First of all, you're not being a sniveller. It has to be rough for all of this to come up after such a long time. You must be very confused, and with good reason.

I wish I could say, "oh don't worry, it'll be a piece of cake from here on out", but the reality is it could get much much worse before it gets better.

It very well may come as a torrent, like I mentioned in my last comment...when I first realized the extent of my trauma and really felt for the first time all those horrible feelings I had buried, I really thought I would die.

I thought somehow my heart would just stop from the awful sinking feelings. I now know why the words broken heart are so common...mine really did break.

And it wasn't just that one time for me either..every so often it happens all over again, and I feel it all again like it is the first time I am understanding what happened. Lately my flashbacks are so bad I can't even describe the extent of their affect on me.

I'm not trying to scare you off, but am trying to be honest about what it is like, for me at least.

I imagine there is a lot you have to realize, that which you have surpressed, and with that will come a flood of feelings, but afterwards, after it gets so bad you think you can't take it, you will be able to start healing.

I tend to have unrealistic goals for my healing, and want it now. I get angry with myself for being such a basketcase so long after my assaults, but I am coming to see through reading other's posts that this is going to be a long rough process, one I need to be open to before any moving on can occur.

You are not crazy Patrick. Your feelings and experiences are valid, I'm sure. Don't rush yourself to start a diary if you don't feel ready, it will come when you can. And don't expect to be healed overnight.

Just try to go with the flow for now, and remember to breathe when things get tough.

I wish you luck in your journey.
 
Hang in there Patrick, one moment at a time. You're not alone my man, not by a long shot. I think in your case, just getting used to the idea that those memories are there is going to take some time and patience.

My thoughts are with you today,
Dave
 
Going with the flow

I think unfolding the internal you is like following a river through it's course. A river has it slow calm parts and rapids. Small waterfalls and tall ones. Sandy bottoms, and boulder strewn river beds with large side canyon walls. If you consider the water current as your flow of thoughts and the river channel as your internal terrain that will liken the voyage you're taking. There will be some rough spots ahead. What you sense now may seem to overwhelm you at times but eventually as you pass the scene often enough you won't seem to notice it as much. Like passing the bouys. At first you are alert to them when new routes are taken but after you pass them for the 100th time you hardly notice them.

It's how you travel the river and the paths you choose that will make your travels easier. Your river guides are your support people - therapist, group, the forum, whatever. You are going through the 'spring thaw' overflow right now but the water level will drop periodically as it will rise on occasion as well. Since you live on a boat I thought this analogy would help you to anchor and get a perspective on the process from a global view. It is not so much any one event or symptom as it is the process of change.

keeping tabs on you,

Cindy
 
Excellent analogy, Cindy. I have had these images of water (thawing, flood, washout, rapids) all through this process. I don't think I could have put it as clearly as you have.

Nice to know it's not just me.
 
thanks Cragger

I always go back to water. Water soothes my soul. Many of my visualizations are focused on beach and water.

Cindy
 
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