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Undiagnosed Ptsd Or Not?

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Frankie,
I appreciate that you are trying to understand why you are emotionally numb, depressed and having trouble sleeping. Understanding what is going on with yourself is vital in working to become mentally healthy. I am not trying to be harsh in any way so please don't take it as such. You asked for opinions of people here who have PTSD and we have been offering you information from our experiences and what we know to be true. As I am reading thru your posts it seems you are trying to fit yourself into a PTSD diagnosis.

First and foremost - Neither you nor any of us here can diagnose you, ONLY a professional therapist can do that. In fact really only a professional therapist who specializes in trauma can dx you. My primary T told me 2 years ago that he "thought" I had PTSD and referred me to a specialist in PTSD for confirmation and treatment. I still see my primary T bi-weekly, but we work in conjunction with my trauma T whom I see once a week.

Secondly - In order for a professional therapist to make a diagnosis of PTSD they must verify that you meet EVERY criteria of PTSD as set out in the DSM. Not meaning every symptom of course, but the number of symptoms required in each category. In fact you can guess as to whether you meet the criteria, but your opinion is self biased. A professional will be completely objective.

In your last post you stated that you don't meet every category.
I admit I don't meet anything in the B category
It would be wise of you to let a professional make that determination.

On another note, I have to say that I am confused. In your first post you said that you had never suffered a trauma that you remembered.
I do not have any flashbacks of any traumatic event and can 't even recall ever experiencing or witnessing a traumatic event.

In a subsequent post you said that you witnessed a relative being attacked, but that it didn't scare you, nor does it currently upset you when you think about it. One of the criteria is that any recollections of a past traumatic even causes severe distress.
I certainly haven't been involved in anything traumatic directly. About thirty years ago I did witness a member of my family being attacked / threatened by another member of my family. But this is not something I have even thought about over the years and even now when I think about it I don't feel stressed about it and it doesn't concern me, it's just I have been trying to think of an excuse as to why I may have PTSD and that is the only " traumatic event" I can think of in my life.

Now in your last post you say that you witnessed a relative being attacked on numerous occasions and that it frightened you.
I did witness as a young child one of my very close relatives being attacked and badly beaten up more than once, several times actually by another of my relatives, which as a child was very frightening

A therapist would need to know which of the 3 comments was in fact what you experienced and how you currently react to recollections of it as well as if you have intrusive thoughts about it.

You've also said you've see several doctors and even a psychiatrist about your emotional numbness, lack of sleep etc. none of which have dx'd you with PTSD. Is there a reason that you don't trust their diagnosis? Do they specialize in trauma? I would imagine the psychiatrist would have a lot of knowledge in this area, but perhaps not. If he or she doesn't then I would recommend that you find a therapist who does specialize in trauma for a complete evaluation. Maybe that will put your fears to rest. Worrying about the what if's does you no good and in fact will impede any progress in your healing and I would hate to see that.

Again, I am not trying to be harsh, but you did ask for our opinions. I have PTSD, in fact it took a very long time for me to even accept that diagnosis because the prognosis of healing is so dismal. After 2 plus years of extremely painful and hard work I am in remission, which is very uncommon and I can't tell you how happy I am about it!

Depression, emotional numbness and anxiety (PTSD is the worst of all the anxiety disorders) are three of the many symptoms of PTSD. I am 52 years old and though I was not emotionally numb until about 10 years ago, I had all the other symptoms from a very young age.

I understand how awful emotional numbness and depression is and it sounds like you definitely need help from a professional to move forward in your road to healing. No matter WHAT your diagnosis is, you need to find a therapist you trust so that you can be open to their help and guidance. As someone above posted, be open to what your therapist tells you. Please don't try to diagnose yourself, let alone with something as serious as PTSD, leave that to a professional who knows what they are talking about. If you do get dx'd with PTSD this is a great forum for support and information. If you don't have PTSD, but do have depression and/or GAD (general anxiety disorder) there are other forums out there that are specifically for these disorders that will be far more helpful to you.

I wish you all the best in your endeavor to heal and become whole. You deserve to have a good life full of the richness of emotions and happiness.
 
Kpthenut, it is interesting to hear your experience, did you overcome your emotional numbness once you felt better?

It was hard for me to share that experience but yes, over time I did return to 'normal'. I had both CBT and medication. It took many months of both but I did recover.

My feelings then were completely different to my PTSD sysmptoms. My PTSD was triggered by a serious car crash. During my depression I suffered no flashbacks, panic attacks, nightmares etc I was However extremely low, tearful, numb and unable to manage day to day activities. IMHO the 2 are very different, in fact the severe depression I had in no way prepared me for PTSD, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, inc the truck driver who caused my accident.
 
I admit I don't meet anything in the B category
If you don't meet the criteria in category B, then you can't have PTSD. It's not like ordering a burger at a restaurant and you ask them to leave off the mustard...it's still a burger. If you leave out category B, you no longer have PTSD. This is the diagnostic standard, not something up to interpretation or debate.

I have been to see several doctors about this matter and have even been assessed by a psychiatrist and they have all said that I am suffering from depression and anxiety! But the only thing I am depressed or anxious about is my inability to feel any emotions. So I was just wondering what your opinions on the matter is. I would really appreciate any response. Thanks.

I'm not sure why you bother to see doctors or a psychiatrist if you think you can do a better job of diagnosing yourself using the internet. And I'm not sure why you say you want our opinions or would appreciate any response. You haven't gotten the responses or opinions that you seem to have wanted so you either disregard those responses, try to debate why we're wrong, or continue to post various threads searching for someone who will agree with you. No one here can or will diagnose you. We've given our opinions but you don't like them. You've been assessed by more than one professional and you don't like their diagnosis. At this point I have no idea what you hope to gain by continuing to post the same things over and over, and get the same responses/opinions that you don't like over and over. Just STOP!
 
You made a post on a forum about PTSD (That I assume you joined as you trusted the information on that site and assumed the opinions would be valid). That post asked "PTSD Or not?"

Every answer you have received for the last 2 pages has said NOT. You wont accept our answers.

I'm kind of not sure why this thread is still open? I think Frankie only wants to hear answers that they agree with.
 
Psychiatrists (plural) are saying you don't have PTSD, then you don't have PTSD.

Because you have witnessed or endured trauma does not equate to having PTSD. They do not go hand in hand.
 
My actual flashbacks didn't come on until was diagnosed with PTSD, but I felt annoyed at the trigger and suicidal and had no idea why. Hid it for like two weeks. (Did mine come overnight?)

Also A note: Most people who witness a traumatic event actually DON'T get PTSD. You may simply be REMEMBERING it. Basic rule of thumb: If the reminder DOES NOT come on suddenly and make you want to run out of the room AND/OR if it is inconvenient to run out , you end up crying, sobbing, and shaking, then you probably don't have PTSD.
 
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