Rapid Resolution Therapy - Is It Any Good?

[anthony]

And how, in three sessions, can you positively confirm anything? Where is the report on your study?

Exactly... 3 sessions, 6 sessions, 20 sessions, complete bullshit nonsense that is heard from mental health professionals trying to sell themselves, and instead of listening to the clients, they're too busy thinking they have all the answers.

If its so easy to treat us veterans, then why hasn't every veteran administration around the world picked it up and using it? Oh wait... because it treats you when you stubbed your toe, had a bad breakup or got slapped around a few times at school, for people claiming they now have PTSD from it.

Total garbage. Be honest... that is what veterans want to hear... not more bullshit from another mental health physician trying to sell themselves and make money of others.

People wonder why the system is so broken...

RRT may work for a minority, but its not working for a majority, otherwise VA's globally would be using it. EMDR has more studies and proven success than RRT, let alone PE, CBT, CTT, etc etc... name your acronym, they all have limited success with combat trauma. Studies love to dictate otherwise after they've selectively chosen the mildest of clients to obtain excellent results, though the facts are... the most difficult type of PTSD is combat to date... RRT hasn't changed that, so please cut the crap of marketing an old technique with a new twist and spin.

 

[Zipperhead]

I guess due to the title of this thread that anyone with a vested interest in this topic would easily find it while doing a simple google search. Strictly observing the words he has chosen to use in his response, I would suggest that he is not a veteran. No vet (even a medical branch) would use those terms while discussing medical issues with Army Vets. It's not that we are dumb, its more that throwing heavy terms around does not impress us, and often results in a knee jerk reaction as we inform the perpetrator that they are an idiot.

I can understand that someone with a vested interest finding this thread would probably want to comment and defend thier point of view. And a differing point of view might even be useful at times. I also accept that most people don't really read the legal disclaimers when joining a forum, they just click accept and move on. But I would suggest that anyone that throws terms like amygdala and hippocampus around is more than capable of comprehending the term "VETERAN ONLY COMMUNITY" and any Mental Health Professional should be aware of the effects of violating someones personnal security boundaries.

I would also suggest that the indifferance to our situation shown by ChattaCourt shows that he is not use to dealing with Combat Induced PTSD, and there for any assertians made as to the effectiveness of this treatment should be taken with a grain of salt. As he has obviously never even met a Veteran, let alone treated one, his claims as to the effectiveness of the technique are obviously wanting in the clinical trial aspect.

My 2 cents.

 

[FUBAR1]

thanks all. i just thought since it was mentioned on army dot mil itself maybe it would have some merit but now that an actual rrt therapist has come on here and explained what its about, its bullshit, at least for the kind of ptsd im dealing with. i dont know, maybe if you were raped or in a car accident or a building fire or something i can see it helping but yeah not with the kind of long term multiple trauma i have. the thing is, at least for me and im sure other vets too, im perfectly capable of talking about my experiences with absolutely no emotional reaction whatsoever, in fact i sometimes startle people by laughing about some of my most horrifying memories. emotional disconnection while recounting trauma is often a PROBLEM not a solution. it has nothing to do with healing, only with numbing out, dissociating, and the whole military mindset necessary for survival in a combat zone. i know the event is over and i survived; that really does f*ck all for my state of mind. and years of training plus years of trauma that reinforce the training cant be undone in a matter of hours; i don't even know if it can be undone in a lifetime. in my opinion thats like saying that a seasoned police dog can be completely deprogrammed in a day's session. i had a family member who adopted a retired police dog and after a year of owning it, one night the dog was sleeping by the armchair when a kid threw a snowball from outside at the window. the dog went from full sleep to jumping straight through the glass window and going after the kid. the dog had to be put down. i just think a trained service dog - or even a pitfighting dog - is a bit of a good parallel to combat ptsd: really, are you going to deprogram their brains in three sessions? ha, f*ck no.

 

[Zipperhead]

in fact i sometimes startle people by laughing about some of my most horrifying memories.

I know I'm not suppose to quote the entry above, but I wanted to bring out this line.

Here's another quote.

"I've found out why people laugh. They laugh because it hurts so much... because it's the only thing that'll make it stop hurting"
...
"But that's not all people laugh at." said Jill
"Isn't it? Perhaps I don't understand all its fullness yet. But find me something that really makes you laugh sweetheart... a joke, or anything else- but something that gave you a a real belly laugh, not a smile. Then we'll see if there isn't a wrongness there. I think when apes learn to laugh, they'll be people.”
― Link Removed, Link Removed

I was laughing at the appointment yesterday. When I was talking to that social worker. The one that said I wasn't going to be successful in therapy, and I wasn't ready yet. Maybe she doesn't know why we laugh I guess.

 

[Ned]

Be a mistake to over-analyse it, but yes, there has to be something wrong for it to be properly funny.
An acquired taste, maybe, like whisky or a Chilli. Too bitter, too sharp for some people.
Mind, I've been in a couple of tight spots where everyone ended up with the giggles, not hysteria, just infectiously funny.

 

[Jimmy1]

Yeah, I am hearing you. One of those 'Holy f*ck, Can You Believe This'.
I remember in downtown Baghdad and we heard the primaries for the mortars. People started diving on the ground.
Me and two mates just started laughing. Just thinking how f*cked everyone would be if it land right there.
Another time I was in an OP on top of Baath Party HQ when mortars started coming in. A young digger asked me what we should do, I just chuckled.

There was a saying about laughing in the face of adversity

 

[Anglesachse]

Like they say, "if you don`t laugh, you`ll cry"

I remember us diving for cover once after taking rounds, and all of us hit the same patch of dirt next to an outhouse, have done a quick body count only to find our most senior NCO had gone for the small wall on the side of a shack. He was sat there on the other side screaming at us to move to him, and we are all Pissing ourselves laughing going"F*ck that, you get your ass over here you dumb f*ck" LMFAO he had dived straight into the pig sty, not one of us managed to get a shot off. Once he got over the wall back to us, he couldn`t stop laughing either.

 

[MDNILTP]

I know I might get bashed for posting this but I am also a therapist who is certified in RRT. It is not a cure all but it is the best therapy I've ever used for PTSD. Depending on the trauma it works in one session but sometimes it takes several. I do RRT pro bono for veterans and active duty who haven't found that the other therapies like PE, CPT or EMDR have been helpful. A lot of the certified RRT therapists have committed to a certain amount of probono work and usually provide it to either victims of violent crime or vets either in their office or though the Wounded Warrior Project. You might want to call one of the local RRT providers and see if they do pro bono work and check it out. It really is different than regular talk therapy. You can also contact the Institute for the survivors of sexual violence as they usually have a list of therapists who do probono RRT work. If you go to the RRT site there is a retired Colonel that is a certified practitioner who had the therapy done to her and talks about how helpful it is. I've been trying to get my dad (retired career disabled veteran) to do it but of course he doesn't believe in therapy. Good luck to you all. Sometimes therapy isn't the answer and I hope you all find what you're looking for.- Sorry, I just saw this forum is for vets only. I'll unsubscribe.

 

[Jimmy1]

Mate, thanks for the useful info for the guys over there. If you message Anthony the site owner/admin, he might let you put an add up or a document.

Once again thanks, at least you can read.

 

[Anglesachse]

I know I might get bashed for posting this but I am also a therapist who is certified in RRT. ....................................... Sorry, I just saw this forum is for vets only. I'll unsubscribe.

And another one who can`t f*cking read.

What is so damn hard for these people in just contacting Anthony if they have info they think relevent to us to see if he is ok with it being posted. Instead of Blatantly ignoring the "Combat Veteran Only" sign and then commenting with "Ohh I know I am gonna get bashed for this post" and in that admiting she read and ignored the front page and the post in this thread.

Only to then come out with "Sorry, I just saw it is for vets only". yeah my ass.

If you had any f*cking idea about COMBAT PTSD and what we Vets go through, you wouldn`t have just come floating through like some Insurance salesman with "the best therapy for PTSD" but "Depending on the trauma it works in one session or maybe several" crap

So how about COMBAT TRAUMA that with the Military indoctrination we go through in basic training and our whole careers, totaly reprograms our responses to all asspects of PTSD long before the Trauma ever happens. That a one or several session guarantee also is it?

Learn to f*cking read, stop spouting hot f*cking air and take us and our problems more seriously you blind, arrogant and dumb f*cking cow.

F*ck off.

 

[tho9900]

the Institute for the survivors of sexual violence

only sexual violence I have had is getting f*cked by the military and the VA...

 

[tho9900]

Learn to f*cking read, stop spouting hot f*cking air and take us and our problems more seriously you blind, arrogant and dumb f*cking cow.

Tell us how you REALLY feel Angle lol