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Tim Cake
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Education, schmeducation! Just illiterate...
LostInIllinois
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I am somewhat dismayed by the negative post re. RRT.. I've been"working" on these issues for years. I've tried EMDR (still trying), hypnosis, you name it.. I am willing to try anything at this point.. Do I believe that I can be "cured" in one , two , or three sessions? No I don't...There's no logic there.. I may not have seen the atrocities that my British friend mentioned earlier but I've lived through plenty.. Panama, Granada, Iraq.. Buried friends..
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't try anything offered.. Old , New.. I'm in.. I just want to sleep at night, All night..
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't try anything offered.. Old , New.. I'm in.. I just want to sleep at night, All night..
I don't think it was the therapy per se that was the problem. It was how it was presented...there is no silver bullet for PTSD...none. However, the original post made it sound that way. Also, this is a combat veteran site only and that rule is not broken. If the person had something to say about it, they should have contacted the site owner and not just joined up and started flowin out a bunch of shit.
PTSD sucks for everyone regardless of the cause, that is just the facts. However, in my experience and also from what I've read, combat PTSD is very unique and requires its own methodologies. RRT may work for some, and that is fine. It may work for some combat vets...who knows. But most of the folks here have been dealing with this for years (me included) and it is f'in annyong when someone comes in like a know it all!
Now, I am not beating you up, just explaining at least how I percieved it. RRT may work well for you and I am sure other vets may have used it also. But, the person's presentation was crap! If it were me and I were him, I would have either contacted the site owner, or, if I did join, I would have said this:
"I am not a vet. I do have PTSD. I have some info about RRT. Who can I send it too. Once I know, I will get off your forum cause I see it is vets only. No disrespect intended, just looking for a POC. Thanks!"
Now, they still probably have gotten flamed but I am sure Jimmy or someone else would have been civil for a minute and said hey, contact so and so and now leave...or something like that. (Note: Jimmy, hope you don't mind me using you as an example).
Anwway, that's my spin on this. Again, not bashing you, just saying that guy was a jackass the way he approached the site.
PTSD sucks for everyone regardless of the cause, that is just the facts. However, in my experience and also from what I've read, combat PTSD is very unique and requires its own methodologies. RRT may work for some, and that is fine. It may work for some combat vets...who knows. But most of the folks here have been dealing with this for years (me included) and it is f'in annyong when someone comes in like a know it all!
Now, I am not beating you up, just explaining at least how I percieved it. RRT may work well for you and I am sure other vets may have used it also. But, the person's presentation was crap! If it were me and I were him, I would have either contacted the site owner, or, if I did join, I would have said this:
"I am not a vet. I do have PTSD. I have some info about RRT. Who can I send it too. Once I know, I will get off your forum cause I see it is vets only. No disrespect intended, just looking for a POC. Thanks!"
Now, they still probably have gotten flamed but I am sure Jimmy or someone else would have been civil for a minute and said hey, contact so and so and now leave...or something like that. (Note: Jimmy, hope you don't mind me using you as an example).
Anwway, that's my spin on this. Again, not bashing you, just saying that guy was a jackass the way he approached the site.
I have to comment on this thread and say unfortunately MANY therapists who treat PTSD do not understand that Combat PTSD is a different animal all together. My father and husband are both vets. My father has active PTSD and has struggled with it for many years. Which is why I chose to become actively involved in understanding the differences between PTSD and Combat PTSD and find ways to decrease PTSD symptoms for vets.
The thing that I tell my clients is that you will never forget, but the goal is to "make friends" with the trauma to decrease the negative impact in daily living. Like someone said , "I just want to sleep at night." To tell any person who has PTSD that they will be magically healed in a couple of sessions is just wrong. Treating Combat PTSD is a process and it does not happen overnight there are many factors that goes into each case which is why I enjoy working with vets.
Severe PTSD should be treated by those who have specifically studied and treated it. The behavioral health field is slowly catching up on this debilitating disorder. We are finally seeing treatment programs designed specifically for Combat PTSD in some psychiatric/medical facilities that merge several treatment modalities to help alleviate the negative lasting symptoms. San Antonio, TX has one of the most renown programs in the U.S.
The other issue is that each client is different and what works for one will not work for another. Combat PTSD requires multiple treatment modalities to begin to heal the "wounded soldier." Any therapist bragging about their effectiveness, clients should run in the other direction.
Combat Vets should seek counselors with a specialty/certification in traumatology and specifically Combat PTSD.
I hope that helps. I like living and dealing in reality.
And yes, I followed in my father's footsteps and did my time in the Navy. Good Luck to you all.
The thing that I tell my clients is that you will never forget, but the goal is to "make friends" with the trauma to decrease the negative impact in daily living. Like someone said , "I just want to sleep at night." To tell any person who has PTSD that they will be magically healed in a couple of sessions is just wrong. Treating Combat PTSD is a process and it does not happen overnight there are many factors that goes into each case which is why I enjoy working with vets.
Severe PTSD should be treated by those who have specifically studied and treated it. The behavioral health field is slowly catching up on this debilitating disorder. We are finally seeing treatment programs designed specifically for Combat PTSD in some psychiatric/medical facilities that merge several treatment modalities to help alleviate the negative lasting symptoms. San Antonio, TX has one of the most renown programs in the U.S.
The other issue is that each client is different and what works for one will not work for another. Combat PTSD requires multiple treatment modalities to begin to heal the "wounded soldier." Any therapist bragging about their effectiveness, clients should run in the other direction.
Combat Vets should seek counselors with a specialty/certification in traumatology and specifically Combat PTSD.
I hope that helps. I like living and dealing in reality.
And yes, I followed in my father's footsteps and did my time in the Navy. Good Luck to you all.
Or, you could get someone like Dr. Sally Satel of the American Enterprize Institute "cure" us by denying that PTSD exists at all. Or how about Dr. Norma Perez of the Veteran's Administration encouraging her therapists to refuse to diagnose Vets with PTSD because it was costing too much.
Just because you might have a few little letters after your name doesn't mean that you know and see all. Or that you're human enough to understand laying one's life on the line for a subtle concept like freedom.
Put your squid uniform back on, go out and kill a few hundred people, bury a few battle buddies and then come back, we may be able to help you,
Sarg
Just because you might have a few little letters after your name doesn't mean that you know and see all. Or that you're human enough to understand laying one's life on the line for a subtle concept like freedom.
Put your squid uniform back on, go out and kill a few hundred people, bury a few battle buddies and then come back, we may be able to help you,
Sarg
Anglesachse
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Cods wallop
I`ll just translate that for our colonial Brothers.........
What a load of Bollocks.
I had the pleasure of a Therapist who/has a specialty/certification in traumatology and specifically Combat PTSD as you call it. He was after all also dealing with guys from the German Army and was suggested to me for that reason.
And the guy was a total dick and a waste of my time, my manners, and most importantly my health.
The civvie lass I went to see was over 60 and been in the job for decades. Just her Experience and an honest opinion, and she done more to help me than an idiot who has a certificate to say he could help.
A certificate in anything, states purely that you have the minimum knowledge required in the subject at hand. And for that reason it never will and never can replace Experience gained first hand.
You mean like you are?
Hmm, I find my self wondering..............
Well the reality of it is simple.
What we need are open minded Therapists who are willing to listen and not judge us for what we have done. No more No less. and most certainly not any jumped wanna be helpers who think that they know it all.
So as my esteemed brother has put it.
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Wagon
Traumatology? Holy f*cking shit. I guess we're changing the language on this already.
I can only reflect what my good brothers here have said. And the premise of multiple treatment modalities is a giant f*ck up. You guys are all hit or miss. What percent of each? Sorry, we all already went through guinea pig mode in the military. "Hmmm, I wonder how much these guys can take before they go permanently gaga?"
At the end of the day it is up to the sufferer to determine what is best for them, be it pills, reestablishing contact with the past, psychoanalysis or even natural medicine (God forbid.... doesn't seem to be offered much...probably can't turn a buck and the University loses out on their cut too. That's a no go) AND AND.....having good no bullshit information available.
You unfortunately wandered into a group of people who are actually experts on this topic. Literally hundreds of years of experience here. This site has has helped more people to stabilize and get to a point where they can help themselves than you can ever hope to accomplish in your career.
As you were a squid, let me put this in terms you can understand. Your profession is a gundeck job. If you were being measured on the same rules as when you were in we'd have you popping tall before the old man, hand down some 45/45, half months pay for 3 months and knock your ass down to SR.
You want to do some good? Get out in the streets and start digging up homeless people, chances are allot of them are veterans. Get them a place to stay and show them some ways out. Go out to some of the bases and start to do some suicide prevention. The rate among Veterans now is 7 times the Vietnam rate. Actively lobby to stop giving soldiers meds and sending them back into combat. You ain't doing anything for us, thats for damn sure.
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
Wagon
I can only reflect what my good brothers here have said. And the premise of multiple treatment modalities is a giant f*ck up. You guys are all hit or miss. What percent of each? Sorry, we all already went through guinea pig mode in the military. "Hmmm, I wonder how much these guys can take before they go permanently gaga?"
At the end of the day it is up to the sufferer to determine what is best for them, be it pills, reestablishing contact with the past, psychoanalysis or even natural medicine (God forbid.... doesn't seem to be offered much...probably can't turn a buck and the University loses out on their cut too. That's a no go) AND AND.....having good no bullshit information available.
You unfortunately wandered into a group of people who are actually experts on this topic. Literally hundreds of years of experience here. This site has has helped more people to stabilize and get to a point where they can help themselves than you can ever hope to accomplish in your career.
As you were a squid, let me put this in terms you can understand. Your profession is a gundeck job. If you were being measured on the same rules as when you were in we'd have you popping tall before the old man, hand down some 45/45, half months pay for 3 months and knock your ass down to SR.
You want to do some good? Get out in the streets and start digging up homeless people, chances are allot of them are veterans. Get them a place to stay and show them some ways out. Go out to some of the bases and start to do some suicide prevention. The rate among Veterans now is 7 times the Vietnam rate. Actively lobby to stop giving soldiers meds and sending them back into combat. You ain't doing anything for us, thats for damn sure.
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
Wagon
Just Saying
New Here
They aren't kidding.. it isn't too good to be true. And no one is paying me to say this nor do I have ANY stake either way but I would like to see more people helped and this way definitely works!!! Freaking quick.
Ok... I can speak from both sides. I underwent RRT (VERY SKEPTICALLY) after someone recommended it. I didn't expect all of the promises. After years of therapy (where i was an active participant) that were helpful but with many lingering issues and trauma related symptoms I thought maybe it would just be another feather in my cap to add on top of EMDR, CBT, DBT and lots of other fun stuff.
It was unexpectedly POWERFUL. I was blown away. Since I was also training to work with others, I was so dumbstruck by how effective this was compared to everything else I tried I decided to get some training into using it myself.
As a very analytical person, I wanted to know how this miracle cure worked. I soon realized that there are many holes in their claims of being cured totally.
Here is how you break it down:
Traumas and flashbacks can be REMOVED in a few if not one session. It isn't brain surgery, the method has just been put together in such a way that it tells the subconscious mind to stop replaying the painful tape. In the trainings, they teach practitioners all the things that they are doing wrong that actually have been prolonging their clients issues. It really isn't that complicated. When I learned how it was done, I was like oh... the mind works like this and therapists have been just looking at it wrong. I don't think it is the cure all for everything like they claim but for PTSD it is gold.
EMDR was painful for me and it left me screwed up for weeks, RRT was like someone flipped a light switch on.
the catch:
That doesn't mean that emotional issues are healed immediately or that coping skills are aquired immediately. What the RRT people don't say is that you should probably pair RRT with conventional therapist to deal with the long term coping skills.
BUUUUT.. is it too good to be true that in just a few sessions, horrible ugly impressions can just go away forever? Nope. Gone. Make sure you find a really good practitioner from word of mouth referral and you are good to go. I decided not to pursue a career in this but learned a lot and I would recommend it to anyone with PTSD.
And for people that are offering their opinion based on reading a website and have no actual experience??? Seriously? You are just making stuff up. Though I do admit their website drips with lame marketing hype. But if you want freedom, it freaking rocks.
Again... i have nothing to gain by posting this except to hope that it helps some people find some real relief quickly.
Ok... I can speak from both sides. I underwent RRT (VERY SKEPTICALLY) after someone recommended it. I didn't expect all of the promises. After years of therapy (where i was an active participant) that were helpful but with many lingering issues and trauma related symptoms I thought maybe it would just be another feather in my cap to add on top of EMDR, CBT, DBT and lots of other fun stuff.
It was unexpectedly POWERFUL. I was blown away. Since I was also training to work with others, I was so dumbstruck by how effective this was compared to everything else I tried I decided to get some training into using it myself.
As a very analytical person, I wanted to know how this miracle cure worked. I soon realized that there are many holes in their claims of being cured totally.
Here is how you break it down:
Traumas and flashbacks can be REMOVED in a few if not one session. It isn't brain surgery, the method has just been put together in such a way that it tells the subconscious mind to stop replaying the painful tape. In the trainings, they teach practitioners all the things that they are doing wrong that actually have been prolonging their clients issues. It really isn't that complicated. When I learned how it was done, I was like oh... the mind works like this and therapists have been just looking at it wrong. I don't think it is the cure all for everything like they claim but for PTSD it is gold.
EMDR was painful for me and it left me screwed up for weeks, RRT was like someone flipped a light switch on.
the catch:
That doesn't mean that emotional issues are healed immediately or that coping skills are aquired immediately. What the RRT people don't say is that you should probably pair RRT with conventional therapist to deal with the long term coping skills.
BUUUUT.. is it too good to be true that in just a few sessions, horrible ugly impressions can just go away forever? Nope. Gone. Make sure you find a really good practitioner from word of mouth referral and you are good to go. I decided not to pursue a career in this but learned a lot and I would recommend it to anyone with PTSD.
And for people that are offering their opinion based on reading a website and have no actual experience??? Seriously? You are just making stuff up. Though I do admit their website drips with lame marketing hype. But if you want freedom, it freaking rocks.
Again... i have nothing to gain by posting this except to hope that it helps some people find some real relief quickly.
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