Remission

[lovenbliss]

@heidi Did you put that question for me ? I thought you asked that to Bone Gryphon.

My first post on the thread was only for franciemarine and Bone Gryphon. Franciemarine talked about shamanism and removal of all imprints of trauma. I guess franciemarine put me into philosophical mood and I wanted to tell her that there might be ways to completely remove trauma if she is interested in finding one. Yes, I am very lazy with words. I write very less and hope that others will understand them. I'm surprised franciemarine hasn't replied. Either she thinks I'm stupid or may be she is off reading Buddhism books to find the gems.:)

I'm not oversimplifying anything. I'm totally not in favor of curbing any thoughts. I repeatedly said it won't happen to most of us because it's very difficult. It hasn't happened to me. Of course, I believe in them too much. So, I say them with a force and it looks like they are my ideas. What I said is totally philosophical in nature. I read them somewhere and believed in them. I realize that I should have been careful and not just post something here that randomly came into my mind.

Oh, it's not offensive at all, if I don't have PTSD. Won't that be the biggest happy news ? I may not have PTSD. I have gone to two psychiatrist in the past. I didn't know about PTSD then, so I didn't ask. And they didn't tell me anything. They just gave me medicines and I came home. In India, doctors don't tell much to their patients. Both times I threw the medicines after taking them for a few days. I was always worried that those meds will have side effects and I may get something else. I also found this site very late, when the worst was over. From past three-four days, I'm feeling better. You didn't ask me what troubles I faced. So, I'll stop here. Have a nice day!

 

[heidi]

I was only asking Bone Gryphon I didn't follow the rest of the conversation. I have read a little and I think it is possible to be in remission. I have days where I feel free of it. I suppose it follows that someone could have a large portion of time where they felt better. It probably also helps that she has her school work as distraction. I was also intrigued thought at the possibility of being so high functioning. Since she is doing so well I was just wondering if she fully had it to begin with. Not that I don't think it's possible because I do. I tell you though I would be so afraid of getting triggered on this forum if I was doing well I'd run.

 

[heidi]

Lovenbliss, I just fully read your post. My impression the first time I read it and my impression now was is that you were simply searching for a useful method for dealing with trauma.

You have to accept the fact that you were just a little unlucky and that's all there is to it.We have to accept the world completely with all its ugliness. It requires a lot of knowledge and is not easy.

You also said that you have not succeeding in this. It's just your philosophical thinking on the subject and maybe your attempt to remove your own trauma. I think there is a lot of room for discovery of helpful techniques in dealing with PTSD. In attempting to heal ones self, who knows, maybe one day a sufferer will discover a useful technique. Even if it was just a smidgen helpful it would still be helpful to many people.

I think your point basically centers on acceptance both of the human condition and the fact that this happened to you. This isn't something that is mentioned much in therapy (acceptance) but I think it's something that is talked about here a lot.

There was a time when I was listening to some new-agey podcasts (lord help me) in an attempt to help myself at urging of a friend. One thing that stuck with me is this example they used of a tree falling on a car. When it is an act of nature it is so much easier to forgive because you do not feel personally toward the tree. Yet when it is human nature it is very different. Yet what if we could understand that human nature is as much an act of nature as the falling tree and therefore feel more neutral toward it.

I can also think about the mustard seed. The famous Buddhist teaching about a grieving villager who is instructed to go door to door to ask for a mustard see from a person who has not been affected by grief or tragedy. And the person returned empty handed because everybody had been affected by it. This really can be a powerful teaching for reasons that I can't quit put into words.

Basically I think you were talking about using acceptance of the human condition to help neutralize your feelings and take the power out of it.

I think this is something a lot of us try to do already. It might be one of the most powerful things we can do.

 

[lovenbliss]

Wow! Incredible explanation! You explained it so beautifully in easy words that there shouldn't be any more confusion. Thank you very much.

 

[warathome]

I gotta say I agree with scaredoflonely. I don't have to accept the world for all its ugliness. I can fight against it and say that what happened to me was wrong. I didn't ask for it, in fact I tried to stop it. I also do not need to forgive. My forgiveness towards them shoulnd't really matter, I am not a higher power. Thayt is who they answer to.

What I do know is this: I was diagnosed and medicated and had really bad panic/anxiety/flashbacks, etc for three to four years. I lot better. Most of my symptoms were almost completely gone. Then 12 years later, its like I had no therapy, no meds, no improvement and I am out of remission. I am in my 2nd year of this current round (or whatever you want to call it) and I think its worse this time than the first.

I just want to manage better again.

btw, Wikipedia is NOT a credible source

 

[heidi]

I don't really see where anyone thought anybody had to do anything. It was just one person's attempt to make sense and apply meaning.

Just making the point that a lot of people have talked about this matter or a similar matter in a different way or at a different angle but it is a familiar subject. As you can see I can't easily explain what I mean but I'm just saying there are no blanket statements of what people have to do.

That was just one person's attempt to apply meaning and that is all.