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It's just taking longer than it usually would @Suzetig but perhaps when I've given it some space I will be able to identify differences clearer. Lack of sleep hasn't helped me (nor him) either. We were both surprised when his GP didn't offer him any medication given his inability to get through one night of sleep without nightmares. He was signed off sick from work though. I shall call them when they open and see if I can speak to someone, this is probably the best thing to do, thanks
 
@redsandy I have just been looking them up online. Thanks for the pointer, they look great. I have also taken down contacts for CombatStress UK and the mental health charity my partner's GP signposted him to.
 
We were both surprised when his GP didn't offer him any medication given his inability to get through one night of sleep without nightmares.

My experience with sleeping pills was that I had more difficulty regulating my behaviour the day after I'd taken them. Risks like that are probably the reason.

Nightmares are a (paradoxically) good sign - generally speaking, just before I get over something from my past, I'll have recurring nightmares about the thing I'm trying to resolve.
 
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No meds no backlash no permanentr records
Our men are afraid of the shame of ptsd
These guys understand this
 
@BlueOrange the impression I got is that the dr was hesitant to prescribe any form of medication, sleeping tablets or otherwise, and first wanted to signpost him to a support network. I saw this as a good sign, I hope that wasn't misplaced. However, if things continue to deteriorate at the rate they have then I shall call the dr and explain the situation and seek advice there. He has been having nightmares on and off for a year, and they are the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak, we both agreed he needed to seek further help.
 
If it's at all possible to find him a trauma specialist, then I think it's well worth it. Your main doctor sounds pretty good, and medication in general tends to have risks when treating trauma. But this stuff is tricky, and we (as a class of patients) are not easy to help.
 
@BlueOrange thank you. Hearing from a you as a sufferer has helped me put myself back on a helpful train of thought instead of blind panic, and remembering how to go about things in the right way. I think in the mist and upset and sleeplessness I became lost in my fear. You have a real air of calm but whilst still being real and honest and objective. I know I can only do so much, he has to get the rest of the way himself. He takes one very large step forwards but then three or four backwards, and whilst this is better than ten steps back(!), it's becoming frustrating and exhausting all round. He prefers specialist therapy, particularly combat related as he can associate better and not feel like he has to explain every reference he makes to it. In your opinion is it best for me to go to work without another word said? Or should I reaffirm that I love him but that going down this destructive path cannot be an option whilst we are both living under the same roof? If I tell him I'm considering calling his dr I'm afraid he may just up and disappear altogether....
 
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Thanks! I've worked hard to project calm onto myself and my situation, it's nice to have that validated :)

In your opinion is it best for me to go to work without another word said? Or should I reaffirm that I love him but that going down this destructive path cannot be an option whilst we are both living under the same roof?

I think that's a really difficult choice, and that I kinda need to stay out of that decision. There are a lot of subtleties and uncertainties to consider.

My initial concern, when I saw your original post, was that you were neglecting your own safety. As the picture clarified, I could see that you had some very legitimate concerns, and some very legitimate reasons to be hopeful.

I don't think there are any good choices here. You can stay, which has a set of risks and pains. You can leave, which has a set of risks and pains. You can negotiate, which is likely to be extremely painful in the short term, and may-or-may-not set up a brighter future.

I can talk about principles:

Your first duty is always to your own safety.

PTSD recovery is always a few steps forward, followed by steps back. The better life gets, the more the demons want to be heard.

We (especially sufferers) tend to want to resolve things as neatly as possible. Beware this impulse - PTSD recovery is about being able to tolerate uncertainty. It's an extreme form of a normal pattern - under stress, it's normal to seek a resolution (any resolution) rather than to endure the uncertainty.

He has a long, hard, painful road in front of him. You get to choose if and how much of that journey you will share. If you are safe (in yourself, and for him) then he can benefit a lot from having you there. If you are not safe, then he's better off alone. The worst thing you can do is to stay and be a scapegoat / punching bag. The best thing you can do for him is to be healthy and strong, and to share that with him to the extent that it's safe for you to do so.

is it best for me to go to work without another word said?

Maybe. If the priority is to avoid another incident, then this seems to be the path to avoiding an incident. Sometimes things do improve because the situation guides events towards improvement. Sometimes problems need a chance to settle down before they can be addressed. Sometimes avoidance is the safe option because we lack the energy or skill or circumstances required to constructively not-avoid.

should I reaffirm that I love him but that going down this destructive path cannot be an option whilst we are both living under the same roof?

Maybe. It's definitely what most self-help authors would tell you to do. It's a compassionate, self-respecting, choice-giving option. It's also a painful confrontation that will require both of you to be able to cope with the pain and simultaneously tackle the content. It's a mixed message (like most truly honest messages) that he's likely to find confusing and difficult to handle.

There are, of course, other options. The fact that you present the choice in this way is a clue that you want to find a way to make it work. Sooner or later, it seems likely that there will be some kind of confrontation.

Things to consider:
- It's possible that you've already had the confrontation, but are wishing it had turned out differently. I understand quite well a desire to repeat an incident that you regret in the hopes that it will play out better (it's an important part of PTSD), but if doing that, have a very clear idea of why you think it might play out better this time around.
- We always focus on what the other party isn't hearing, and don't always pay as much attention to messages we might not have received properly. Don't forget to consider this.
- Are you trying to get him to fulfill needs that he is currently unable to fulfill? Are there alternative ways to fulfill these needs, thereby reducing the stress on both of you?
- Do you want to stay with him, or do you expect yourself to stay with him? Understand your answer and its implications


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@MissF Welcome and I hope you have found the support helpful. Learn all that you can about this disorder and do focus on taking care of yourself. Don't let this disorder claim two lives as it is up to him to seek his own help and you can best support him when you are at your best.
 
@BlueOrange thank you. Your advice has put a few things into more perspective than my, oftentimes, blind panic. The realisation that both roads bring some pain is something I have to accept. I am a compassionate, caring, understanding person, and can be quite sensitive, but the PTSD has completely thrown me and I can only begin to imagine what it is doing to him aside from the things I hear or see from him.

- We always focus on what the other party isn't hearing, and don't always pay as much attention to messages we might not have received properly.
This I am guilty of. He is directly telling me he wants to be left alone, and whilst other times he is talked down quite quickly, I know that I dismiss this very clear message with the reasons why he shouldn't want that. I need to work harder on that but it is so so difficult.

I also suppose I expect him to consider me in the same way I would have expected that prior to this illness taking over. We have always struggled with his stubbornness during any argument and I find it hard to distinguish between that and this situation we now find ourselves in.

Ultimately we have to decide how, and if, we can even try taking baby steps forward. He did message me after I left for work to apologise but remained clear I should leave him alone when he says. I was still upset last night and he comforted me but when I got upset or tried to talk about it, he switched off and took those steps backwards that you mentioned. It's here I realised, as he had known for a while but did not wish to tell me, that I have become a trigger to this detatchment. Any time I try to talk about my feelings he immediately shuts off and, sometimes passive aggressively, isolates me. I find this hard to deal with and this the cycle continues. Because I allow people to be so honest and listen to them and comfort them, it's alien to me to be shut out and almost censored.

He is going to attend group therapy more regularly while the dr decides which medication or other therapy he may need and he is talking about moving out. I go away this week for a short while. But I know that I could be coming back to any manner of things as this roller coaster continues. There are times I do not feel safe and he has said he worries with the way his anger manifests, hence removing himself (wether that be on the other side of a kitchen door or living somewhere else). I do fear that if he takes steps backwards and is alone then he could harm himself, but I think I would be worried about that if he were to still be living here.

Your words have really helped me understand things better, thank you. I think I need to make a real decision with how invested I can be at this point and how helpful that is given that I am a trigger and I am also very sensitive to the reactions.
 
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