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Relationship Seriously Struggling Partner Of Ptsd Boyfriend

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Dylan1985

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I apologize in advance for the lengthy post and decided to sign up for an account in search of help after stumbling upon this site while doing PTSD research. I have absolutely nobody to talk to in my life about this or anyone who can relate whatsoever.

I met my boyfriend four years ago, we fell madly in love and have had the type of passion, kindness and intimacy with one another that I never believed truly existed. I learned very early on that his adult son fell unexpectedly ill one morning and died that very same day in his arms. He inevitably blames himself even though his disease was not preventable. Because of this he has very severe PTSD, depression and some suicidal thoughts. As our relationship progressed he would open up to me more about it but in the timeI've known him, has never really been able to share his experiences completely. He sees his psychiatrist at least once a week and confides completely in him, which has always given me some peace of mind that he has an outlet. He has a very high profile career and has mastered the ability to completely cover up his suffering to the point that I am the only person in his life who is aware of it.

He was always the most loving man I could ever imagine but there was a darkness to his depression that I was well aware of at the same time. He would have moments where he would barely notice I existed and would almost shut down completely. He told me I was the love of his life, that I finally brought him happiness to him after 6 years of his son being gone and that he wanted to have another child together (something I myself wasn't certain on). Three months ago however, we broke up after going through weeks of him being in a very bad place. I knew he was struggling at that point, I felt like there was no one inside of him anymore and that my partner was completely gone, but I didn't know what to do. I honestly felt like his body was vacant. He told me he needed space and I told him he should leave (I struggle myself with issues of abandonment and self-worth, which have made this even more tough and I know, not the reaction to alleviate the situation).

We stopped speaking for several weeks but inevitably came back into each other's lives. We have been closer than ever in the last few weeks - he has been so open with me about his mental battles, something I had wished for when we were together. We keep cycling through talking and then not talking for a few days because I keep asking him to let me go and tell him it's not fair to continue like this. He says that he sees no future for his life, which makes it very hard for him to think about us down the road. Hearing this is so hurtful and upsetting for me as I wonder why he would have kept me in his life for 2 years if he didn't see a future - he says I don't understand the symptoms of PTSD and that the lack of future has nothing to do with me but encompasses his entire life. He also says he knows he will hurt me because of what he is going through and that he won't be able to provide me what I need in a partnership. For those reasons we have decided not to come back together as a couple and I have never pushed him to make a commitment to me since our breakup.

I keep trying to end this situation as it is so painful for me to have him in my life but not in the capacity I want. He keeps coming back after I've asked him to stop, telling me he loves me, sending me beautiful love letters and discussing plans about children. I'm so madly in love with him that I can't help but want to talk to him and be with him. It is so confusing as I can feel so much love and desire to be together from him, but ultimately he tells me he can't. I feel like I must be some sort of masochist to allow this suffering to continue in my life for so long.

I honestly don't know what to do and have nobody who can understand in any sort of capacity what it is I'm trying to work through. I have so much love and compassion for him and want nothing more than to be able to help and support him, but don't know if I will ever be able to. As somebody who does not suffer from PTSD or depression, I do struggle to understand or know what the right thing to do is. I apologize if any of this sounds ignorant - I do my best to read through information I can find online and in journals but otherwise have no way of educating myself as he is very closed off about this. I want nothing more than to love him and be there for him but I also know I need to look out for myself first.

Thank you in advance for any help or guidance you can provide. You have a lovely community - I know my partner would fair much better if he would consider being part of something like this :)
 
How long were you guys together before he started to get weird? Sorry, I know you say you met him four years ago but I'm wondering how long the relationship went on before these bumps in the road showed up.
 
How long were you guys together before he started to get weird? Sorry, I know you say you met him four...
Looking back I would say bumps were always present. He was never like any man I'd ever been with. He would retreat within himself, get very distant, choose not to discuss difficult feelings. I always knew it was part of his depression but I guess didn't understand how severe it was. I think as we were together longer and he was more comfortable, I wound up being the only one who was subjected to it. We would go to dinners with his clients and he could completely mask it but then come home and he would be vacant. 2016 has been when it's been the worst and a few weeks prior to our break up was definitely the worst by far.
 
I tend to think that if there are certain patterns present in the beginning of a relationship, they will always be there. So, I think if you can find a way to reconcile with this behavior of his, you should be fine. But it sounds like you're saying you're not okay with this distant behavior of his ... And if that's true, I think you need to resort to drastic measures and cut all ties. I don't think there's any advice anyone here can give you that would make him change. The issue lies with him, not with you, and there's no magic fix. I do wonder if the passion and intimacy you describe may have seemed more intense, and more romantic, because of the flipside of that -- his emotional distance? I mention that just because for me personally, any time I've felt that intensely, it's usually been the result of ups and downs in the relationship, which is not really healthy. But I do think those ups and downs often intensify the good emotions, too.

I also think it's good to keep in mind that for every period of pure bliss you experience with him, it will likely be followed by distance. That is how a lot of PTSD sufferers deal with intimacy, by pulling away. And even if he's in therapy, that might not ever change. The fact that he's still grieving his son really only complicates things more ...


He keeps coming back after I've asked him to stop, telling me he loves me, sending me beautiful love letters and discussing plans about children.
As for this, he may very well love you and mean what he's saying, but he's already admitted that he can't give you what you need, and if he sees things ending badly and you getting hurt, he's probably right. I also have to wonder if there's an element of fantasy to all of this (not that he doesn't mean it, but perhaps he is comforting himself with these fantasies to try to get through tough times). I have noticed that a lot of PTSD sufferers, myself included, can talk a good game at times and offer up these fantasies of ideal love ... but when it comes down to really being intimate, they run away.

I don't say any of this to discourage you, but to make you think long and hard about whether you're really ready to continue with this guy, in any format. Personally, I think you need to walk away and realize that this ideal love you describe was never that ideal to begin with.
 
I agree with everything Casey said.

This will likely never go away. I had to accept this as my norm to be able to function. Only you can decide if you can handle the roller coaster or not.
I'm 6.5 years into my relationship and we still go through the same cycles. My father has PTSD, and the 41 years I've known him, not a whole lot has changed. It can get better, but it never goes away.
The trick is to deal with your own anxiety. I, too, have abandonment issues. I've worked hard to keep them in check. When he "leaves" I take those times to figure out how to make me better, and still keep the kids going.
Oh, yes, kids.....I don't think I would bring another child into our situation. We each brought kids in and decided not to have any a long time ago. I'm glad we didn't. It's hard enough on the ones we have.
I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just trying to let you know that a relationship like this takes a lot of time and effort. I stay because I'm happy with who is os the other 90% of the time. I believe no one is perfect, and this is "baggage" he brings to the table.
If this is too hard for you, oh and I know it definitely is, you're not a bad person to say enough is enough and walk away. It takes a strong person to do that too. The one thing you maybe shouldn't do is stay half in. That's where people can get very hurt.
By the way, just because he takes space once in a while doesn't mean he doesn't love you or see a future. It means he physically can not be there at that time. Then he will feel guilty for it and keep pushing. It truly is not a reflection of you. And because it is a mental disorder, you can't fix it by loving him more. It genuinely has nothing to do with you....except the fallout. The fallout belongs to whoever is closest.
Goid luck on making your decision.
 
I tend to think that if there are certain patterns present in the beginning of a relationship, they wi...
I didn't respond to you last night because I felt so sad and emotional reading it. I wondered at first how someone who didn't know me could make these observations about my relationships, but quickly realized that what was really upsetting me was that everything you said was accurate. I have thought to myself from very on in my relationship that something didn't feel real about it and that I was more of a fantasy of a distraction from the pain than anything else. His ability to express love through words is so strong and powerful, that in the moment I feel like the luckiest woman to have found a man that would worship me in this way. When I need him to 'show up' or meet me half way however, he just doesn't seem to be able to with any regularity. I find myself resentful of my friends' relationships when their partner is able to be there for them in that capacity, as I often feel very alone.

You are also very right about the highs feeling so high because the lows are so low. I feel so lost and sad but appreciate knowing other people can relate. Thank you for taking the time to write to me.
 
The one thing you maybe shouldn't do is stay half in. That's where people can get very hurt.
Thank you for what you wrote. I am currently half in and know that it is the last thing I want. It is so painful to me personally and I know it just makes his depression worse. Every few weeks we seem to go through the process of me leaving again because it's so hard for me to stay when we are no longer in a relationship. I tell myself to let go of him in the days we stop talking but eventually he breaks my walls down and we are speaking again. I've always found myself to be a very strong woman, which is the reason I have never pushed him to resume our relationship since we initially broke, but feel this situation is making me so weak. If I saw another woman going through this process of up and down I would most likely question her self worth and why she allowed it to continue. I do not speak about it with any of my girlfriends because I hate the way it sounds, the back and forth, and I know they won't understand. I myself barely understand and feel like such a mess.

Thank you for listening :)
 
Thank you for what you wrote. I am currently half in and know that it is the last thing I want. It is...

I understand completely how you feel. I often have "low" days too when he's pushing me away, but I've learned I'm going to have to be able to depend on me whether he's here or whether he isn't....so until I "know" it's the end....I'll depend on me to get through. Good luck in your "soul searching". I know how difficult it can be. All my best with you....
 
Reading This thread has been so wonderful and so sad at the same time! Sad because it defines my situation perfectly.
I met my guy in march 2016 through a mutual friend. He seemed to be really shy and had a sort of wall around him that didn't let him even talk to a girl, let alone get close. He was not like those other guys at all. One day he texted me and we started talking. He asked me out on several dates and we met 4-5 times before he told me he was falling in love with me. He told me he wanted to marry me and have a future with me. It was so magical and I thought I was the luckiest girl to have found him.
He always seemed to be so happy around me.soon after that I left for london to visit my family and he was constantly missing me. I went to New York and he flew all the way to be with me for 10 days. After the very first day, something changed drastically. He was not the same person, it seemed as if he was withdrawn. He seemed lost. We met everyday and spent numerous hours together but there was no intimacy on his part and I was left confused and hurt. When we both got back home after the holiday, he told me about his anxiety and that this relationship made him anxious and he needed these feelings to go away. He couldn't breathe, felt a lump in his throat, had an accelerated heart rate etc. so I took it personally and sort of bombarded him with questions ( I had no idea what was going on at this point).
One day I googled all symptoms of anxiety and PTSD and immmediately could relate all of them to him. I felt bad for pestering him. He told me I deserved to be happy and to be with someone who could fulfill my needs and could love me the way I deserved it. But he never let me go. there was a push and pull thing going on. I pulled back and distanced myself emotionally to give him space and comfort. I have been extremely supportive and he has confided in me about his issues. He told me couldnt get over his last relationship even though it was bad and verbally abusive. He doesn't want to get back with his ex but he told me how he felt about it.
Anyway, things have changed. He calls me every day (more than once) and likes talking to me and knowing what I'm up to. However, when it comes to meeting me, he has been avoiding it to some extent for the last 15 days. That is not a good relationship. Last night I couldn't take it and it was playing with my self worth and confidence. I sent him a long message about how it was hurting me to hold on and that it wasn't fair on the both of us to be in this half heartedly. He says he has never met a girl as nice as me and all I've ever been is loving and caring and non judgemental. I'm really hurt and want him back as he was when I met him. I think he ignored the fact that I want out and today he is talking to me normally, like how we usually do. What should be done ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I love this guy and only want the best for him. However I need to look after my own health and sanity too.
Look forward to the responses.
:)
 
Reading This thread has been so wonderful and so sad at the same time! Sad because it defines my situation...
Dear Goon,
I also have just recently joined this group as a way to cope with my situation. I am by no means an expert but I would like to offer this. I think you have to take some time to decide with no outside distractions how you truly feel about your man. If you love him you have to decide how deep that love goes and if you are willing to go through this journey with him. I recommend if you decide to be with him, find a PTSD professional in your area that specializes in this disorder. Even if you do not suffer from the disorder yourself, PTSD not only affects the one suffering from it but it is equally as damaging to the supporter. I also recommend doing things for YOURSELF. TAKE TIME FOR YOU. FIND ACTIVITIES THAT YOU ENJOY AND REACH OUT TO FRIENDS, FAMILY, SUPPORT GROUPS OR WHATEVER IT TAKES. DO RESEARCH ON PTSD. I don't know the level of PTSD that your man has but depending on the stage, there may or may not be a cure. He may or may not want to get counseling.DON'T FORCE HIIM. The worst thing to do is to fire out a lot of questions as this forces him to retreat into his shell . It takes a great deal of patience to be there for the person. If you find yourself starting to get angry, find a distraction and go to that. Assure him that you will always be there. No matter how much it hurts you, GIVE HIM SPACE AND LET HIM RETURN TO YOU ON HIS OWN TERMS. Find out was his "triggers" are and find a way to avoid them. These are situations that can surface at any place any time and cause the sufferer to withdraw and become a person that wasn't the person you fell in love with. Looking at your situation, it appears that when he reaches out to you, he wants to be close to you in his own time. Just let him know you love him and that you will be there for him. When he is ready, he will want to see you. If he changes, it is because a trigger occurred and that is why it is so important to find out what his triggers are. It could be childhood abuse, a traumatic event, he may have suffered loss of a loved one. It could be a combination of several of those things. I think you will be fine if you Take time for yourself, not take it personally. It is not you, not him but the ugly PTSD that does this. Don't ask questions, let him volunteer things to you. Just lend a caring ear and listen to him. Reassure him that you are there for him. Tell him you love him. Don't let this play with your self worth or self confidence remember that this is not him it is the PTSD. He cannot help it. Believe me I know this hurts. I am going through the same thing. My guy has not been intimate for 14 months. All contact with him has stopped in a moment of time that we were happy. I have been patient all this time and I wasn't sleeping, wasn't taking care of myself. It caught up with me and I couldn't take it anymore. I am now going to a therapist and it was the best decision I made for myself. I struggle with PTSD from emotional neglect as a child so we both have it but in different forms. I joined a gym, I joined this group. I am now making decisions that are for me. I still have moments of anger with this man that triggers my PTSD so I go do something and walk away and distract myself with something for me. I wish you all the best of luck in your decisions. I hope I have helped you in some way. We seem to have very similar situations so I would be happy to answer any questions or be a support to you if I can.
 
Dear Goon,
I also have just recently joined this group as a way to cope with my situation. I am by...
Hey Deb, thank you so so much for this! It's surely very upsetting to be in such a situation. Yes there are a lot of questions that I have Thay I want to ask you. First of all, I want to give you a better insight. He has been making vague plans to see me for the last 2 weeks now, and anytime a plan solidifies he backs out with an excuse. He has been sleeping a lot and whenever I ask him where he's been he lies and tells me he was in a meeting. I have always been very supportive but it has become difficult for me to be normal and live my life on my own terms anymore. It's all about him and his well being and I have neglected myself completely. Today we were supposed to meet but he fell asleep and only texted me every half an hour. So hence no meeting.

When he opened up about this to me I suggested that we see a therapist or a doctor and sort it out. I told him it wasn't possible to be happy and live a normal happy life if these issues aren't sorted out. He completely refused and since then I've never asked him the same question again. I know that seeing a therapist will really help but I know he would never accept that.

I'm deeply hurt and I feel like I can't carry on like this. He has been neglecting me so much that I don't even remember the last time we had a decent conversation. How can this happen after falling so deeply in love with me? I don't take it personally anymore. I really tried to put everything I had on the table , gave him confidence that he could talk to me about anything and that I'll always be there to support him. But now I feel like he doesn't want me around, or that he has changed his priorities- work, workout that's it.

I also feel bad be as he's not in touch with his friends and doesn't meet anyone at all. I know it's not my responsibility to fix him, I tried my best to just be there whenever he needed me. I don't think I have it in me anymore to be so selfless, only because I think I'm falling into a depression and thats he last thing I want right now.

If I were to part ways with him and tell him that for the time being we are probably not healthy for each other's wellbeing, can you please suggest how I should go about it ?
Again, thanks a lot for the wonderful reply. I hope you find light and happiness too in life! :)
Goon
 
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Dear Dylan1985,

I don't know if you were aware of this but PTSD can come in many forms. I wasn't aware until my therapist enlightened me that emotional neglect AND ABANDONMENT are forms of PTSD. PTSD can be in the military form, from any type of loss sustained in ones life, a traumatic event, terrorism, emotional abandonment or neglect. Have you tried seeking professional help for YOU? I know you mentioned that he seeks help and goes once a week. This looks like you are being torn apart on a constant basis going back and fourth. A complete state of hopelessness. I am in no means telling you what to do but I made the decision to go to a therapist. It helped tremendously. I am offering this. 1. Decide once and for all how deep your love goes for this man. YOU CANNOT FIX HIM AND YOU CAN ONLY HELP HIM BY BEING THERE FOR HIM ON HIS TERMS. It is not an easy task. It takes a great deal of patience. This is so difficult for the supporter. It absolutely does turn into a situation that seems like it is all about HIM. This is why you need to understand you are not responsible for this, he did not do this. It is the PTSD. He will reach out and then retreat over and over again when a trigger goes off. Since it appears to be from a loss of his son, he could have driven by a hospital or somewhere that reminded him of losing his son. Seeking help is very important in this process because the professional can help you identify the triggers and help you learn how to avoid them. YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF YOU, YOU NEED TO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY, You need to decide if you want to go through this journey. All you can do is to let him know you care, that you are there for him. He will reach out over and over when it is "safe" for him to do so. Any kind of frustration, anger, questions etc just drives him into his shell. There are many individuals that decide they can have a relationship despite the PTSD. If you don't feel you can be one of those people, you need to remove yourself from this situation. If you feel he is worth the journey and you haven't already done so, seek professional help for YOU. It is not a bad thing. It is nothing to be ashamed of. You have a right to be happy and the right to be emotionally healthy. It is not being selfish to take care of YOU. I hope you find comfort. I truly care and hope that I have helped even just a little. It's a hard thing to face and even harder to decide what to do. No one call tell you what to do or when to do whatever it is you decide. You and only you will figure it out on your own. All we can do is support you through your journey 100% and offer whatever tools, resources and knowledge that we can.I am here for you if you need support. Most importantly take care of yourself.
 
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