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TimidZiggy

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I have found out how to get my dog registered as a service dog for PTSD I was wondering if anyone else here had service animals? I was talking to my therapist about what helps my anxiety/fear/diassosation and my dog came up. He always helps me feel safe cause he's huge and he's something I can physically touch so when I have my weird disassociation episodes I'm more grounded. She's going to help back me to get him registered with special tags and stuff. I'm not bad enough I need to take him everywhere but I'm planning on living alone soon and my therapist thinks it's important I be able to take him. Do people here have service dogs or in some cases other types of pets?
 
I have found out how to get my dog registered as a service dog for PTSD I was wondering if anyone els...
TimidZiggy,
I think it's wonderful that you have your service dog. About 2 years ago we got a new dog after putting my old one down. The new one was a stray that was rescued and has become somewhat a service dog for my wife. The only problem the dog has is that she a bit of a coward, and totally gun shy, both of which are big triggers for my wife. we're working on these issues and hope we can get them resolved. Service animals are great.
Best of luck with your dog.
 
Service Dogs are wonderful! I trained one years ago, but had to medically retire him due to bad hips. I finally got a new dog that I am currently training. Service Dogs are a tricky legal tightrope, so make sure you do plenty of research! PM me if you have any questions, I'm very well-versed in the legal and training aspects of SD's.
 
A Service Dog is defined by their task trained ability to assist their legally disabled handler to do things on a daily basis that the handler can not do themselves. Some (not all) examples of tasks include:

-Diabetic Alert/Response
-Mobility related Assistance
-Medical Response
-Guide Work
-Seizure Alert/Response
-Hearing Alert
-Psychiatric Alert/Response

Some examples of items that are not tasks are

-Making the owner happy
-Offering emotional support
-Being therapeutic

I am not trying to be a jerk but what you are describing is an Emotional Support Animal not a Service Dog. In my opinion your T is doing you (and possibly other patients) a huge disservice if he/she is telling you that all you need to do is register/tag you dog as such. There are a plethora of online registeries but they are basically scams. Training makes a Service Dog a Service Dog and they dont have to be registered by anyone.

Taking an untrained/not properly trained dog into a public place and calling it a Service Dog is not ok.

This is from the ADA website:

Service Animal Defined by Title II and Title III of the ADA

A service animal means any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability. Tasks performed can include, among other things, pulling a wheelchair, retrieving dropped items, alerting a person to a sound, reminding a person to take medication, or pressing an elevator button.
Emotional support animals, comfort animals, and therapy dogs are not service animals under Title II and Title III of the ADA. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not considered service animals either. The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the individual’s disability. It does not matter if a person has a note from a doctor that states that the person has a disability and needs to have the animal for emotional support. A doctor’s letter does not turn an animal into a service animal.
Examples of animals that fit the ADA’s definition of “service animal” because they have been specifically trained to perform a task for the person with a disability:
· Guide Dog or Seeing Eye® Dog1 is a carefully trained dog that serves as a travel tool for persons who have severe visual impairments or are blind.
· Hearing or Signal Dog is a dog that has been trained to alert a person who has a significant hearing loss or is deaf when a sound occurs, such as a knock on the door.
· Psychiatric Service Dog is a dog that has been trained to perform tasks that assist individuals with disabilities to detect the onset of psychiatric episodes and lessen their effects. Tasks performed by psychiatric service animals may include reminding the handler to take medicine, providing safety checks or room searches, or turning on lights for persons with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, interrupting self-mutilation by persons with dissociative identity disorders, and keeping disoriented individuals from danger.
· SSigDOG (sensory signal dogs or social signal dog) is a dog trained to assist a person with autism. The dog alerts the handler to distracting repetitive movements common among those with autism, allowing the person to stop the movement (e.g., hand flapping).
· Seizure Response Dog is a dog trained to assist a person with a seizure disorder. How the dog serves the person depends on the person’s needs. The dog may stand guard over the person during a seizure or the dog may go for help. A few dogs have learned to predict a seizure and warn the person in advance to sit down or move to a safe place.
Under Title II and III of the ADA, service animals are limited to dogs. However, entities must make reasonable modifications in policies to allow individuals with disabilities to use miniature horses if they have been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for individuals with disabilities.

III. Other Support or Therapy Animals

While Emotional Support Animals or Comfort Animals are often used as part of a medical treatment plan as therapy animals, they are not considered service animals under the ADA. These support animals provide companionship, relieve loneliness, and sometimes help with depression, anxiety, and certain phobias, but do not have special training to perform tasks that assist people with disabilities. Even though some states have laws defining therapy animals, these animals are not limited to working with people with disabilities and therefore are not covered by federal laws protecting the use of service animals. Therapy animals provide people with therapeutic contact, usually in a clinical setting, to improve their physical, social, emotional, and/or cognitive functioning.
 
I am not trying to be a jerk but what you are describing is an Emotional Support Animal not a Service Dog. In my opinion your T is doing you (and possibly other patients) a huge disservice if he/she is telling you that all you need to do is register/tag you dog as such. There are a plethora of online registeries but they are basically scams. Training makes a Service Dog a Service Dog and they dont have to be registered by anyone.

Taking an untrained/not properly trained dog into a public place and calling it a Service Dog is not ok.

Yeah. Pretty much exactly. While owner training is a protected right under the ADA, that does necessitate actually training. Not just any dog is a service dog. And the number of really well trained dogs who have the temperament to do the work is low.

If you don't need public access, then you need an ESA. They're protected under the Fair Housing Act and to an extent under the Air Carrier Act. My understanding is this really only requires a letter of accomodation from a mental health professional. The dog then is able to reside in housing that would otherwise not allow it, but it doesn't NOT have public access rights. That doesn't make the dog a service dog, nor should any health professional be encouraging what amounts to falsifying an SD, which is a federal crime.

I'd encourage you to really research service dogs, what they are and what they aren't. The privilege of owner training is in jeopardy (military bases are already beginning to require dogs be trained or vetted through an ADI accredited organization) largely because uninformed individuals don't understand the law and end up causing problems.
 
Sounds like maybe your dog can be a psychiatric service dog for you lessoning the effects of psychiatric episodes. It sounds like your therapist wants to help you figure all of this out. I say go for it. I would never want to live with out my animals so I get it. Pets are great therapy for me and I'm sure they've helped me on am emotional support level and on a more serious flashback dissociative episode level too.
 
I've done a lot of research on this. In the US where I live you only need a psychiatirst to back the animal as a service animal. I don't intend to take him anywhere with me it's specifically when I'm alone. As such if the papers are filled out and I have a therapist to back it up its fine. I'm not claiming I need my dog with me at all times but I have looked into this so also not to be a jerk but don't assume I don't know what I'm getting into @Jet
 
Umm...no. A Service Dog must be trained to preform specific tasks for the handler. A note from a Psychiatrist only proves you need/would benefit from having a SD. It does not magically turn your pet dog into a Service Dog. I live in the US as well. Read the ADA requirements for a Service Dog. If your concern is being able to have your dog live with you and not having to worry about a no dogs (or weight limit) policy then being honest and calling him an Emotional Support Dog works just fine.

What you are considering is illegal and frankly morally wrong. Fake (yes I said fake) Service Dogs cause A LOT of problems for real Service Dogs and their humans.
 
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Also I'll be sure to tell my social worker, and psychiatrist who help people with service animals for a living they are completely wrong about how they do their jobs cause clearly they don't know how to do them if they are the ones helping me. Oh and they totally haven't done it before or anything. It's not like I have any help doing this from professionals. Silly me. I'll just trust a stranger on the interwebs. @Jet
 
Dont trust me...all you have to do is read the LAW (which is what the ADA is). And for what it's worth I had a T try to tell me th same BS...he got the same response you did.
 
Um then why is the information I'm getting from landlords saying something completely different?
That may be what the landlord requires for service dogs (The Fair Housing Act is different than the ADA) or it may be for emotional support dogs. But @Jet is right. What you're talking about under US Federal law is absolutely not a service dog.

It sounds like from what you're describing as far as your needs and what everyone is telling you is necessary (psychiatrist signing off and that's pretty much it) your dog would be an Emotional Support Dog. ESAs and SDs are different, so I suggest you find out which it is and really look at the applicable law.

Here's a good official resource. It's from the ADA's site, sort of a clarification and the law in common English if you will. It also talks about SDs vs ESAs. https://adata.org/publication/service-animals-booklet
You don't have to "just trust a stranger on the interwebs" The ADA isn't opinion.
 
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