Snorting Sublingual Ativan?

[Jimmy1]

It's just it's very easy for me to get suicidal during panic attacks and all it takes is one long panic attack to throw me into a deep depression or to ramp up my anxiety out of fear of another one, and I just thought if there was any way to head it off at the pass with a way to make the med work faster... Because seriously its not the depression, the nightmares, the flashbacks, the hyperalertness, or anything else to do with my PTSD that gets to me the most and makes me want to end it all... it's the panic attacks. I just can't f*cking handle them.

Mate, seriously, medication is only a band-aid fix. You have to be careful that the panic attacks don't turn into a full blown panic disorder and things like agoraphobia which a lot of veterans suffer from. The only way around it is to deal with the situation via a psychologist or therapist.

Just an opinion

 

[FUBAR1]

Have to be careful that it doesn't turn into fullblown panic disorder with things like agoraphobia? Haha, sorry, way too late, mate. When I'm not on meds and weed my panic attacks are nearly 24/f*cking7 and so severe that I vomit and can't even work or function or do anything but lay on the floor. I'm already agoraphobic and when I'm not on meds its pretty f*cking severe. I already have a therapist. I am holding on to life by the skin of my goddamn teeth and the only thing keeping the panic from being so bad I off myself is Ativan and herb.

 

[Jimmy1]

FUBAR, honestly mate, I have been down that road.

I used to pull the blinds on my house and lay on a mattress in the middle of the lounge room floor. I would drink and smoke weed from when I first woke up till I went to sleep and that was not often. The only way I could get the groceries done was to be stoned off my brain and on Xanax. I used to also go at 6 am when nobody was around.
If I needed anything else I sent my boy (I was a single dad). They put me on a PTSD course and one day I actually left early to go home and get stoned and hide. I was diagnosed with agoraphobia and a panic disorder along with all the other symptoms of PTSD.

You can pull through though mate. I almost lost my boy because child welfare was called in, I was neglecting him and myself. I didn't think I had anything to live for.

But I made a choice, it was a hard road but it can be done mate.

 

[reddevil1111]

I have agoraphobia and it sucks. I take Vistril for panic and sleep. I also take Saphris for the PTSD and nightmares.
Both affect my vision and ballance. But the Saphris I feel has really helped a lot as the nightmares are mostly gone.

My advice? You know when your going into a panic situation in advance a lot of the time. Try taking the med BEFORE it happens. I am not saying pop them like candy! I am saying you know your own triggers and how your day is going. You could try to take them in advance and that could help out a lot in the time factor.

I am living 99% of my time in one room in a big home. If I could get away with it I would be in it even more. If you can drag yourself out trust me you should. I dont like the one room of the house and all. I wish I could change things but this is my current reality. It sucks. Dont start abusing your meds or they will cut you off cold turkey and while the meds are not everything they help out a lot. Think about it.

 

[FUBAR1]

Oh god, if I could have the nightmares gone it would be incredible.

 

[T^3]

have you tried prazosin for nightmares?

 

[FUBAR1]

I haven't had any meds for nightmares. My doc keeps telling me that meds aren't the answer, therapy is.

 

[Anglesachse]

Guess what Fubar. He is right

 

[Jimmy1]

I haven't had any meds for nightmares. My doc keeps telling me that meds aren't the answer, therapy is.

Before this thread gets off on another tangent, we have finally hit a 'FACT'. There is nothing out there that gets rid of 'Nightmares'. All medication does is alter your conscious state, that is why you still feel tired in the mornings, you are not going into a full REM cycle. It's just like alcohol, all you end up in is a stupor.
When it gets down to it, not having a REM cycle is one of the factors which caused our PTSD. We were exposed to a traumatic experience and did not REM sleep (over there) and therefore did not get to file away the trauma as a memory.

Proper therapy helps to file the trauma away so it acts as a memory instead of floating around between our ears causing intrusive thoughts and nightmares.

 

[JarHed]

Proper therapy helps to file the trauma away so it acts as a memory instead of floating around between our ears causing intrusive thoughts and nightmares.

Exactly Jimmy

Taking too many drugs makes you dependent on them. And as you said, they can be the cause of your problems as well. And an additional word of advice, ditch the pot. It can actually cause anxiety if you have any and it sounds like you do.

You have to root out the causes for your anxiety, sleep disorders and depression. They are all linked. Drugs just cover it over for a while. It's OK at first to help get you by but therapy is the only way to sort out the problems and get off some of the drugs. It's hard but worth it in the long run.

Jar

 

[Sludge]

My sublingual Ativan takes around 10-20 minutes to kick in, and when you're having a panic attack, that's a damn long time. One of my friends told me it would hit my bloodstream faster if I crushed it and snorted it. Sounds crazy but I'm willing to try it but I'm not sure it's a good idea - don't want to f*ck up my nose or waste my medication if it's not going to work.

DO NOT snort anything, man. Seriously, you think you have problems now? Don't rot out your upper respiratory system!

The whole "it will work faster" bit is bullshit. Lorazepam is not water soluble. Period. The fillers and binders will cause all sorts of horrible inflammation issues and the drug itself will literally burn off your respiratory ccilia and permanently damage the aveoli in your lungs.

Stick with he sublingual method it is designed for unless you have salivary glands in your sinuses! If that ain't working, do the right thing and consult your doctor.

 

[Jimmy1]

And an additional word of advice, ditch the pot. It can actually cause anxiety if you have any and it sounds like you do.

Jar,

As much as I am an avid campaigner against Pot, for some people it is the only thing they have that might work at the moment. But it should only be an interim thing until they find the right combination of medication.
I thought medical marijuana was the ducks nuts until I found what the additional chemicals were doing to my body.
It now takes three times as much pain medication to have any effect with me due to 'POT' building up the pain receptors in my brain.

The other thing which only occurs in a very tiny percentage, and usually only in older patients is liver failure, or the liver failing after years of trying to break down medications. If they could legalise medical marijuana and extract the pain reducing THC from it, they would make millions.

The only other way to use marijuana is via cooking, making a hash butter, or by inhaling using a vaporiser. That way you are heating not burning and therefore not releasing some of the harmful chemicals.

There has been a great improvement in the cloning and cross pollination of hybrid varieties of marijuana. They have crossed it with a wide variety of herbs and have made great inroads, but at present, it is still not legal.
Here is Aus, they do give it to terminal patients and it eases their pain.