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Supporter Here.....looking For Insight, Fire Service

Discussion in 'Military & Emergency Services' started by Amack, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Florian7051

    Florian7051 Well-Known Member

    Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR)...

    Honestly I think it's a bunch of hocus pocus. Basically they have you rehash your trauma in vivid detail all while moving your eyes back and forth. It's suppose to remap the neuro-pathways in the brain or some trash like that. I found it to be no more helpful than prolonged exposure therapy. Don't get me wrong, prolonged exposure is very helpful, but the whole eye movement thing I think is just a bunch of snake oil. To each their own... I'm not dogging EMDR for anyone that it has worked for; it just didn't do much for me, at least not any more than PE.
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  3. Friday

    Friday Raise Hell Moderator

    LMAO @Florian7051

    PE (prolonged exposure therapy) & EMDR are both

    - Forms of Exposure Therapy
    - Tier 1 Treatments
    - Highly evidence based with huge success rates

    Essentially? You're saying that the Lotus was no better than the Ferrari. :roflmao:

    Snake Oil & Hocus Pocus? Would be the Pinto or LeCar. Or maybe a Hollywood prop-car that doesn't even have an engine, is just used in front of green screen. ;)

    Interestingly enough? You can get the same effect of EMDR by having your exposure therapy whilst walking in the woods. Which was how we were taught in school that it was accidentally discovered. Dr. Shapiro noticed that the clients she took outside to walk in the woods behind her office processed their traumas about a zillion times faster and far more completely than clients she did trauma therapy with purely in her office. There were a bunch of theories why, including that for some reason the eyes having to change their depth field (ground, different distances between trees, etc.) altered the way the brain processed and stored other information that was happening at the same time. EMDR is -essentially- creating the same effect, indoors. WHY the visual cortex being stimulated in such a way causes that effect? As far as I know, we don't know. Same as we don't know why it also causes headaches/nausea whilst hiking (or driving), or why caffeine works better on those changing-depth visual-field induced headaches better than analgesics. Brains. Quirky things!

    @teneighty No therapy works for everyone, much less works best for everyone. I'm another person who loooooooves PE (prolonged exposure), but can't do EMDR (eye movement desensitization & reprocessing)... Although, oddly, I can process /and process better & faster/ while hiking or driving... But I also know how effective EMDR is for most people (and it's origins).
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  4. Freida

    Freida Been There, Done That, Lived to Tell the Story Premium Member

    I'm in the EMDR camp.... Prolonged exposure was a nightmare. EMDR is brutal but when it works it's amazing. PE pretty much made me suicidal

    It is amazing how we all react differently to the treatments that are out there...which is why this site is so fabulous. Exposes us to all the options
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