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Research Survivor Guilt Stories

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You're not responding to them either.

I advised the OP to keep their thread on-topic by not derailing into side debate.

@RoselynJ - based on some of your responses, it appears that you are lacking some fundamental knowledge on PTSD symptomology. I'd advise this article: Post-Traumatic Stress DIsorder, which will give you a good overview.

Additionally, some search terms that might help you: Flashback, Body Memory, Stressor vs Trigger, Shame, Guilt, Anger, Grief.

This site is a decade old and a huge repository of information; you aren't permitted to use any material from the site without permission (including aspects of individual narratives), but you are free to read and learn, as is anyone.

@scout86 is right to point out that you've asked for feelings, not narratives. This site is made of people expressing their feelings, struggles, and questions surrounding PTSD. I think some of the pushback you are getting (certainly what you got from me) is that your base knowledge of PTSD seems lacking, while you are asking for very specific responses that may or may not help you learn what you want to know.

@shimmerz suggested an excellent resource (I Choose To Live).

If you haven't read Viktor Frankl's published account of surviving the Holocaust (Man's Search For Meaning), I'd suggest it as well.

The Body Keeps The Score
(Bessel Van Der Kolk) and Waking The Tiger (Peter A. Levine) both deal with physical manifestations of traumatic memory, and I believe have some case studies that might be useful.

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/continuing_ed/transcript-pdf/transcript_Guilt.pdf looks to be a helpful piece.

This is a link to a summary on research that appears to have been published in 2014 : Link Removed The researchers contact info is listed.

This has some great, annotated responses on a question regarding the concept of survivor guilt: What is the psychological basis of "survivor's guilt"?

Just some things to get you started on background research.
 
Joeylittle - thank you for those sources. I will get those from the library as well, and do the reading you suggest. Yes I am lacking on the PTSD side, because when I posted this question I had not thought my character would still be suffering from it - just the guilt as a lingering aspect (mostly because she has never spoken of the event). From the correspondence in this thread I see that I was mistaken in that assumption, and this post has opened my eyes the areas where I need to bolster my research.
 
FFS! @RoselynJ - you don't even know what you don't know! You say you had no way of knowing that people don't recover from PTSD. I surmise that your total "research" consists of Hollywood movies where the guy has PTSD for about 5 seconds before he completely recovers from it.
Your description of the guilt as a "lingering aspect" "because she has never spoken of the event" is so ridiculous it almost made me chuckle out loud. Seriously, do not try to write about something so complex from a knowledge base of literally zero.

It sounds like you have stories to tell. Why don't you tell your own stories in your authentic voice? You can call them fiction all you like. Leave other people's stories alone.
 
@RoselynJ, but why not ask somewhere where it's writers - of them many survivors themselves, or at least familiar with trauma enough to write convincing and sensitive to real trauma survivors stories - for these details?

Archive Of Our Own has many categories for trauma filled with quite readable fiction, regardless of what genre the authors are writing, as one thing coming to mind. It's unnecessary to come asking survivors, as trauma itself has been, and is, processed by authors via ethically perfectly available channels that do not trigger anyone in the process.

You're an aspiring writer. In for primarily writing advice. So ask writers, dealing with the topic. There are plenty of people who write trauma, specifically. Who spent years researching it. You might as well get the answers *there*. We are a peer to peer healing community; we're not a writing community.
 
Ronin, while Archive of Our Own is a good resource, it is mostly fan-fic, which is very different style to what I am writing. I am in a community of writers, but few have grappled with these themes - I'm hoping to do better.
For now I am concentrating on the links and books so helpfully suggested in this thread.
 
How would you go about writing a character who has had a leg amputated? Genuine question. Would appreci...
I think the answer depends partially on how the scene takes place, when it takes place, and the Point of View of the person I am writing from. I will try and answer this in as much detail as I can without being explicit (so as not to write something which may trigger). In general, all of the stories I have written are what I term "future past" in that the story is taking place in the present/future, and the events are all in the past. In my refugee story these are mostly through memories with a handful of flashbacks. In another novel, it starts in the future, but is a reincarnation story and so we travel with the character through each life. It is likely I would write such a story in the same way as it seems to be my 'style', but that is never set in stone.
If I was writing from the POV of the amputee - The first thing I do is sit down and imagine the person. I don't focus on the leg at all to start. What does he or she look like? What are his or her idiosyncrasies (do they hiccup when they laugh too hard or wrinkle their nose when they are frustrated? Stuff like that). What does this character tell me? What is his or her name? Then, I focus on the story - is the story about the leg? Is it about something entirely different and they just happen to be an amputee? What is the arc - both story arc and character arc? Does the amputation change the arc at some point - were they an aspiring dancer who now can't dance? At this point, I often get flashes of scenes - Just in typing this out now I am picturing a dark haired man, he's got green eyes and a scar on his chin which is hidden by a 2 day beard. He's frustrated and irritated by a set of stairs in front of him. I don't know anything else .... Then I start asking questions - where is he and why? Why is he frustrated? Is he angry that stairs are hard now he's on crutches or because of those he has met that are double amputees who need to use a wheelchair? Or is he frustrated because his boss is an a*hole and stole his best client? I'll start writing the snippet of this scene - laying out the background details (It's pretty hot and his crutches are chafing under his arms). This is when I start digging into my research. For instance, at this stage I might start looking at crutches used by amputees - I might go to the pharmacy and feel a set. Oh look, amputee crutches often are around the forearm rather than under the arms. I edit the scene to be more accurate - rather than chafing under the arms his hands are hot and sweaty. Lets imagine for a moment that the frustration I saw above is because his best mate is a double amputee. At this point I would start to look at petitions for disability access, what channels does the person go through to file one? Does our mysterious person do this or is he so cross he yells at the manager? How does the friend feel about it? He doesn't want to draw attention to himself and wishes his friend would leave it alone. If this was the story I might look at support groups, and ask a question about supporting a friend who was an amputee when you were one yourself - or accepting support from others. Maybe they would tell me they found it easier to accept help from someone who was like them - and I would edit the scene.
This all assumes I am writing when the leg was healing. It changes slightly if I am writing the event where the leg is taken. I have to research ways in which this happens (trying to be very careful here!) - was it an accident, war, etc. What kind of treatment would be provided in those kinds of places - field hospitals or ambulance. How far away was the person from help (I might use google maps). I would look at clinical notes (is this a historical event? Find book from 1800s/1900s describing such an occurrence). In my imagination I pay closer attention to the leg - how is it healing? What does it look like? How does he feel about it? Then I would ask. (Just as I have here), is there anything I should know? And I would edit accordingly to make it accurate.
It is never simply about the event either. It is about the fallout and the repercussions. Things like this aren't just over in a second - or in a scene. Maybe my fictional person will never go down a certain street again, and what does he do when he discovers that is where his new girlfriend lives? Perhaps I check with the community if the responses I have written are plausible (maybe he breaks up with her? Or is it more plausible that he faces his fears? My imagination says it depends how long from the event it is.). Maybe he desperately loves her, and has to grapple with the two warring sides of his feelings.
Does the girlfriend have a POV? Here I might draw on my emergency experiences (keeping in mind I was in a hospital not on the front lines). I have a disability myself and sometimes use a cane (only on really hot days) can I draw on the way people are looking at me when I do? How does she feel because she is with him and people are looking? I might seek out a support forum for carers of amputees and ask.

At all stages I read widely, but they are often informed by the nuggets of scenes my character provides. Sometimes the nugget is a tangible thing - he or she is patting a cat; sometimes it is more ephemeral - she is shivering, why is she shivering (that one turned out that she was pregnant - who knew)? In the question I posed initially in this thread, it was because my Character (Eve is her name) is pissed off at her friend insisting something wasn't her fault. I couldn't work out why she was so angry. She just WAS, and she told me so in no uncertain terms. She'd already told me that her faith and the church was how she'd dealt with the trauma (and she still used it) so I assumed not the PTSD but the Survivors guilt must have been where the anger was coming from. I did some research then on survivors guilt and ended up here. And now I have lots more to read, and some edits to make.


Edit: I just wanted to add, that sometimes the characters and snippets are incorrect. They are imaginary after all and influenced by what I have read and or think. For instance - above with the crutches, my imagination saw the kind you get when you sprain an ankle which I've experienced, and I went back to correct. Asking is my way to make sure I don't let these inconsistencies stay into the final story, and that I was as accurate as humanly possible.
 
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Then I would ask. (Just as I have here), is there anything I should know? And I would edit accordingly to make it accurate.

It seems to me (and I am also a writer of sorts) that this is the equivalent of saying "well, I don't know how to swim but I assume that its a lot like walking so I will write the entire scene as if my character is walking and then I'll ask a few questions of professional swimmers and just go back and edit the walking scene so that the character is now swimming".

In my view - and this is why writers are told to write what they know - if you want to write about swimming accurately you need to start by researching water. Find out from scientific literature how water is different from air. Then research how water affects the human body. Then research the biomechanics of swimming. Then see if someone who has swum is prepared to talk to you. Then, ideally, at least wade into some water if you can't swim.

You seem to be approaching this from the starting point that the amputation (or the PTSD) is kinda incidental to the character. Having spent a lot of time with amputees and now living with someone suffering from PTSD - I can assure you it is not.

I might seek out a support forum for carers of amputees and ask.

Bear in mind this forum is for sufferers as well as "carers". You've done the equivalent of walking into an amputee rehab ward and yelling out "Hey can you guys tell me how an amputee feels cos I'm writing a book about one but my character had her leg amputated years ago so I think she's pretty much over it - she just has a little phantom limb pain from time to time so can you just let me know how that feels?"
 
You seem to be approaching this from the starting point that the amputation (or the PTSD) is kinda incidental to the character. Having spent a lot of time with amputees and now living with someone suffering from PTSD - I can assure you it is not.
That is why I started with - it depends on what the arc of the story is. In Eves case, the story arc is trust - trusting her friend to hear her story. The Survivors Guilt, and repercussions of that guilt included being unwilling to tell her story, are a part of that arc - but not all of it. This thread has shown me that the PTSD needs to be a great part as well than I initially assumed. I don't always write an entire scene before doing research. Sometimes I do - sometimes I don't. And every scene gets its own barrage of research. The scene I came here to research is not written yet. The scene before it is. I can see that she is angry, I can see her friend saying it wasn't her fault. What is the fallout of her friend saying this? Why is Eve feeling angry? Is there an argument or does Eve just shut down? I couldn't see it, and so I started to research on it leading me here.
 
the story arc is trust
Oh! Well in that case, yeah no worries! People with PTSD have NO trust issues! :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

it depends on what the arc of the story is

No. It doesn't. Because no matter what the arc of the story is, the character's PTSD will mean that she reacts very differently to people without PTSD. Just like you and I would struggle to fathom how it feels to have an amputated leg, how that impacts on every single moment of your life, so we struggle to fathom how PTSD affects every waking moment.

So, to give you constructive criticism on the 'scene before':

Can Eve feel anger? (If you answered "of course" then you need to spend a LOT more time researching PTSD)
If so - can she recognise and articulate that feeling? If so, to whom? Someone she trusts? Why would she trust that person?
Or has she dissociated? If so, to what extent? And why?
Is the friend's comment intended to be a trigger? If so, why is that phrase a trigger?

Sigh! I can see you are determined to write this story. I wouldn't attempt it if I were you. I think you think that you can understand PTSD if you just do a little more research. I've been around it for 40 years now. I still don't understand it.
 
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