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The Derry Pennsylvania Incident - The Town Has PTSD?

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Ridge Runner,

Your theory while interesting is not the cause of Derry's decline. I am a victim of this tragedy and I believe suffer from PTSD however the town as a whole does not.

The correct date of the tragedy is September 4, 1978. It was a Monday afternoon and one that changed my life forever. The school librairy had created a book about the tragedy and is still available today. True the town changed after that day but it did not go down hill after that. The down hill part started as the economy was on a downward spiral. You remember the Carter administration don't you? The odd-even gas days in which you could only purchase gas depending on the last digit of your license plate whether it was odd or even, the 21.5% prime rate, the double digit inflation, the high unemployment rate. Those were the factors that aided in ending this little town's days of prosperity. I believe the final blow came when Westinghouse sold it's Derry plant to ICI, then shortly thereafter ICI closed the plant leaving hundreds of Derry citizens jobless. People were either forced to move to a locale with employment or take other jobs that paid less.

Sadly, it is an evolutional process that takes place in small towns. Drive through Blairsville, Connellsville, Jeannette, etc. Low income, low self esteem, a lack of work ethic and a dependence upon Government subsidy are the reason for the town the way it is today. Heroin is rampant everywhere and is something that needs to be delt with the old school way.

Until such time that an industry of good size will invest in the town, it will not return to it's glory days and that won't happen any time soon, if at all.

As to the dreadful events of September 4, 1978. I was directly affected as an immediate family member was taken that day. I went from being who I was to being "that kid whose family member was killed" in Derry. Then after the settlement was reached, those who stood in line at the funeral service asking if there was anything they could do, became those who were jealous of me and my family because of the settlement and the incorrect way in which the amount was reported by the papers. To this day 30 years later, people still say behind my back how good I have it while living off my family member. Isn't that nice? My life has been changed and nearly ruined, memories erased of the whole family we used to be. A break down out of the blue when I see or hear something that gives me flashbacks, the fear of losing others in my family and now that I have children, the fear of losing them. The inability to share in certain things like the first day of school, a picnic, a school function because they bring back memories of my old life that cause me such great pain. Yes, sure I am so well off aren't I?

Do you want to know the sad thing, no one involved in this tragic day really communicates to one another. When I see other victims families, they ignore me, and do their best to walk away. You would think that we would have a bond and a sense of warmth and compassion toward one another, but there is nothing. That in and of itself is hurtful to me.
 
Actually... medically PTSD is incurable presently. PTS is curable, PTSD is only treatable. PTSD is a neurological imbalance within the brain that once done is irreversible and has life long effects.
 
I was there when it happened. I was about 20 feet from the tragedy. I feel affected by the incident to this day and your correct that the town has ignored the affects of this incident. The town does have a negative vibe and that is one reason I no longer live there but honestly I don't believe that is why they are that way. It's like that in a number of towns in western PA.
 
Hello to all, I was a witness to the helicopter crash in Derry, PA,(A church fair )It was a warm summer day, the helicopter was to drop ping pong balls into the crowd of people, I think there was 1 painted ping pong ball that would be the winning ball for a moped cycle, Thats why I was there as a kid age 14, as well as my brother who is 2 years younger than me, I am now 46 years old, it was very graphic, the details will be stuck in my mind till the day I die, My brother and I are very lucky to be alive.
 
As a witness to this crash and growing up in Derry, PA and reading all the Bull shit that people think thay know, I am posting my E-mail to people that were a witness like myself or may want to get rid of some Junk, or just talk, there are some people in this thred I'm sure I know ! I may have PTSD, I have been married for 17 years and have 3 children, I moved from Derry in the mid 80s and now live in NC.
 
I am 39 i witnessed the crash . Pereace Smith was my sister's friend. I am still affected till this day with what I saw. I heard the blades and saw the blood running down the street. the de-capitation. I was 8 and I saw it all. I disappeared into the woods for 2 days after that,and I don't remember those two days. I hope to hear from you because you live here 2. CJD

I was eight when i saw pereace smith get decappitated. I still live in derry. I lost a good friend that day and so did my sister who is now passed from cystic fibrosis
 
I stumbled on this page while taking a trip down memory lane, thinking about an old friend, wondering what ever became of her. She already had a tragic life, in that her mom committed suicide at home with a gun, and my friend heard the shot and found her body. Then, my friend's best friend was killed in this church parking lot helicopter crash, she saw her get decapitated. That pushed my friend over the edge.

We have to remember that the late 70s were a very different time than today. The people living in the area at the time were mostly children of immigrants, many who died in coal mines and other accidents while building our country in the early 1900s. Many were world war II and depression survivors. The people from that area at the time were tough, no nonsense types who would not sit around and feel sorry for themselves, but just clean up and move on and that's what they did, for better or worse. .Also, if it happened today, CNN would be there covering the event often as a result of so much attention, often comes a lot more help.

I remember this day, as well. I was 13 and we were driving on Route 30, towards Greensburg from my hometown, Latrobe. A whole stream of ambulances was coming the opposite direction, going as fast as possible. My mom is a career nurse and Red Cross volunteer and she was worried about what was going on. We found the Greensburg radio station on AM radio and they told us what happened. It was horrifying to think about! Nothing bad happened in that area in those days - we left doors unlocked, knew all of the neighbors, there were no shootings or crime to speak of. Except for a hotel fire in Latrobe that I could see from my house and where 1 person died, and a few car accidents, there wasn't exposure to violent death. We weren't "desensitized" like we are today, after watching people jump to their death from the world trade centers on 9/11. This was absolutely shocking to all who lived in the area. We didn't really know much then about PTSD, but I know for a fact the Red Cross was on the scene in the town and there was counseling offered. Whether people took it or not, I doubt it.

That area also was hit by a big tornado a year or so later, if I recall - up on Chestnut Ridge? We were at Idlewild park and the sky turned black. We ran for the car and were driving up 30 towards Latrobe. It was so black and rainy, we pulled over at "Sambos" to wait out the storm.

Anyhow, I wouldn't blame the heroin issue (that is a surprise!) on the events of that day of the helicopter crash. I can't believe there is no memorial or anything to the victims. That is tragic, indeed.

I do think it is sad what has happened to the area, it was a great place to grow up. On the weekends, we would leave after breakfast and be out all day and come home for dinner. I would ride my bike miles to see friends, explore in the woods, just do whatever I wanted in a safe environment. I didn't have a cell phone, texting, Iming, skype, whatever to stay in touch with the parents, I was on my own, learning life's lessons and becoming independent. I left the area after high school graduation, my parents moved away and I've only gone back a few times. I couldn't live there again, I've traveled around the world and the area is just too small and short sighted in many ways. I am glad for my childhood there and wish sometimes there was a place I could raise my kids where I didn't have to worry about losing sight of them on the street or in a store. I wish we had parades on the 4th of July with firetrucks and people waving flags. The world has changed.
 
I don't know about Derry's hardships, but I grew up in a very, very small town on the northeast (1.8 square miles). Lots of terrible things happened there, not huge tragedies like this, but all kinds of abuse ran rampant in this small religious community, and everyone knew about it because we were so tight-knit, but no one every did anything to stop it or acknowledge it. Familial problems, in particular, were kept under tight wraps and spoken of behind closed doors only. We wanted to maintain the facade of a peaceful little pedestrian community where children were always safe. After my symptoms started appearing my parents decided to move because of how privately critical the town was. My parents knew they couldn't keep up appearances. I can just say that living in a town like this has exacerbated the internal problems of the town in all types of ways, and it can be hard to integrate into a community that suffers these social issues of denial. Not necessarily PTSD, but no one addresses the problems of a festering community that is incredibly rooted in tradition, and that created weird social climates like what you are describing in Derry.
 
I have lived in Derry on two or three different occasions. Once or twice prior to 1995 and from 1998-2005 and graduated from High school there in 2004. Family still lives there so I visit on occasion. I never knew the date that this happened, but I remember my aunt talking about this when I was young. My aunt would have been in her early to mid-teens when this happened. She said she lost a few friends. She would never give details other than to give me the gist of what happened. My aunt's father was a town cop at the time and later the chief of police. He never talked much about it, only bits and pieces here and there. This is obviously an event that most would rather just forget about. That being said, those who were in attendance when the accident occurred could have PTSD but the entire town doesn't. Any attempt to say otherwise is just ridiculous. I feel tremendous sympathy for those that were affected by this.
 
Well this is to former medic , nameless , dreamguy, xcr300, nittany lion , and westmoreland kid, I as a 50 plus person grew up in this small town. Going to St. Josephs and Derry schools as a kid, and even remember St. Josephs before the parking lot was built can tell you. yes the helicopter did drop ping balls. They say that the helicopter was too low to do this, and because of all the tents and such in the parking lot, it created a down force on the helicopter. Which in return, basically sucked it into the crowd.

I too lost friends and thankfully not any family, but yes some people I knew. Matteo friend. if need be, you can call or email the date to Pittsburgh Post -Gazette and pay for the copy of the next days copy of the paper. I have still got one and for the following week.

I remember this day, as does my sister who was there, and a first hand witness. As far as the drugs and ptsd thing, well I can't say as I moved away along time ago. iI still show up to pay tribute to my family buried in the cemetery across the road from Derry lake, and when there, pray for the ones who lost their lives on that tragic day!

Yes I still also call myself a RIDGERUNNER today, for only those who ran the ridge can call ourselves ridgerunners. So ridgerunner this is for you, if you are my age, we probably know each other, cause very few of us still remember the name of ridgerunners !!!!
 
Very sad to have read this. This has nothing to do with a small town having issues regarding what happened, it is all about a small town that was very close at one time and lost alot of family and friends on what was to be a joyous day. Unless you were there to experience it, you just would not understand, and to us family members that lost loved ones, it is very hard to speak about it to this day and still hurts to read other peoples assumptions about what happened. And for the ones that say they were close friends, you did not even spell her name right! So like I said people that were affected by it do not and will not talk about it. With the wonderful world wide web, research all you would like, but out of respect to the families, don't post stuff and expect someone to answer you!
 
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