Things I Figured Out While Hospitalized

[batgirl]

Well I know a fair bit about history, names, and geography. I've always been interested in those subjects. I was born in Germany. Lived there and in Scotland, also spent a short time in southeast Asia, before my father was transferred back to Canada. My parents were in the military, hence all the travelling. I did not know about the pee and poop names... lol that's awful! :P

oops: against?! your will, you got to be kidding me? In this century? In what country? On this planet?

Well I guess the Netherlands is different, I think you and Sweden are 2 of the most progressive countries as far as human rights. We have many rights here too, but there is a mental health act which states that if you are a danger to yourself or others, a judge can order you to be committed, the actual name of it escapes me at the moment. But if you are a compulsory patient, you have to stay in hospital for a minimum of 3 weeks, then a review board will look at your case and decide if you can be released yet or not. During your compulsory time, doctors can force you to take meds or have ECT treatments. Most will not force ECT treatments, but I was "lucky" enough to have a doctor who was a proponent of ECT, hence why I received the treatments. And continuing with the treatment course was a condition of my release back into the community. But that is just my own personal case, ECT may be helpful to others, some people think it's awesome, but none of those people have PTSD.

Do you have pictures of your work somewhere?

I'm quite shy about my artwork, but I do have some cartoons on the forum here. Some of the avatars are mine. The one I personally have, my uncle's, my aunt's, I believe bec's... yes, hers is one of mine too. Then there's a section under the avatars called "Evie's collection". Those are all drawn by me.

 

[cookie]

thank you for sharing, evie. what wonderful insight you have. i have learned much this morning.
cathy

 

[batgirl]

Thanks Cathy, I appreciate it! :)

 

[maus]

hi evie

hi been little bit preoccupied with things lately
therefore my reply took a while, sorry
but I see you've been busy also. Congrats on your job!
I think evie's collection is a good example of your talent. I thought it was a character from a real comic book that I didn't know.

okay back to your response:
being german explains to me your interest and knowledge about europe. We were practical neighbours once :-).
That law you explained to me about being committed by a judge I know that; we have the same law here I was a victim of that too. But not the compulsory treatment that's against our law (but not for long I'm afraid, but that will be only for criminals with life long disorders). They tried to force meds on me but didn't succeed and they had to let me go after 10 days when an investigation was launched. Thank god for that.

I hope you will post your new work here as inker. Btw I saw your work in red somewhere in a thread. Powerful expressions. Keep on drawing girl.

 

[maus]

progressive

oh and that of being a progressive country, forget about that that's history
since the execution of a politician here and 9/11 all hell broke loose
it's more extreme right and a great concern to europe what is happening in my country lately
but that's a complex political discussion I only want to elaborate on if it interest you

 

[batgirl]

I think evie's collection is a good example of your talent. I thought it was a character from a real comic book that I didn't know.

Thank you for the compliments. Actually some of those avatars are real characters from manga, but drawn by me. Fan art you could say.

being german explains to me your interest and knowledge about europe. We were practical neighbours once :-).

Well I'm actually not German maus. Are you confused now? ;) I'm Scottish and Irish. My family is from Newfoundland. My parents were stationed at Osnabrück at the time of my birth, and I was born at the U.S. Military hospital in Landstuhl.

Oh I didn't realize the Netherlands was turning more right wing lately. That's too bad. I will have to do some reading up on that, before I feel comfortable enough discussing it with you.

Anyways thanks for your comments, sorry didn't say much in this message, as I am feeling rather ill today. I'll probably go back to bed! Take care.

 

[WarHippy1%]

I started reading this thread and after the topic of cancer, it seemed like every subject that the two of you discussed crossed my life at some point or to some degree. First, you talk of cancer as if it's not the beginning of the end. My Dad eventually died of the same kind of cancer that I was diagnosed with last August. the Dr's tell me that my cancer(prostate) is low volume and slow growing, but as I'm at the low age end of men normally diagnosed with this cancer(55), they say they need to get aggressive with it so that it's not the ultimate cause of my death. They say 'cure' but they told my Dad that also, and he died of bone cancer that had metastified from his prostate. The options they have offerred to me all seem to point to my loss of sexuality and they seem to be proud of the choices they offer. Maybe my pride is what is holding me back from letting my sex life go quietly into the night in the hopes that they can really cure me. Somehow, I feel more like I'm stalling the treatment because I just feel tired, not so much physically as much as mentally. I was raised by poor parents, and moved around constantly from the midwest US to the west coast. Being poor and always the new kid in school didn't do much for my social skills. I was kicked out of three high schools before the police finally said, Army or jail. I choose Army, volunteered for Vietnam, I figured if I was gonna play Army I was gonna use live ammo, and I arrived in Vietnam at 18 years, 2 weeks old. By the time I turned 21, I had killed 5 people(North Vietnamese), fallen in Love with a Vietnamese girl who committed suicide because I got transferred(I found that out when I found a way to get back to her to move her to the area that I was in), and was strung out on Heroin on my return to the states. This is a small sample of how my life has been, NOTHING has ever come my way without having to fight for it. I think my mind felt relieved when cancer was the diagnosis, and it became OK to just stop fighting and just let nature have it's inevitible way with me. The problem is, I have a 13 year old Daughter and she is the very best part of my life. I had to take her away from her Mom because she was starting to sexually molest her at 4. Prior to that, I had become a member of the Arizona Chapter of the MONGOLS Motorcycle Club. And, I was living in the middle of the newest center of the Hells Angels MC, who we had been at war with for 20 years. I put all that aside and became Mr. Mom and it's just been me and her against the world since. My problem is, I can't just die and leave her to fend for herself and I can't accept the Veterans hospitals choices of cancer treatment. Clinical trials are getting so close to a cure that I've been just waiting, hoping a cure comes along before cancer has its way with me, and I found a site on the internet that gives another option, a natural cure, getting my cells back to an alkaline base and re-oxygenating my system, they say that cancer cannot live in an oxygen rich system and that the prescription drug companies know this already and keep it secret because they can't patent the ingredients, and that sounds totally true in this capitalist based and soon to become fascist country. Anyway, you two seem to have definite views on the treatment of cancer and I was wondering if you'd be willing to share them. Also, I identified so much with your discussions because my Mom had to endure shock treatments back in the sixties because she became mentally ill. I'm also Irish-Scottish-German. My last name is Blouir which comes from the province of Alsace-Marie, and my Grandmas maiden name was Scheets or Scheetz. As for my PTSD, I've been rated 100% total and permanent disabled since 1993, 11 years of group therapy, 3 months of intensive inpatient PTSD Program, and my shrinks name was Dr. Jose Amato, one of the Veterans Hospitals leading experts on PTSD. I used to be his star test pilot for new antidepressants, and he used to ask my advice on PTSD subjects. Oh, and Maus, I think you said something about some conspiracy. Because of my outlaw motorcycle ties, I've been made aware of being the target of some sort of mind control device controled either by my government or the hells angels MC. Regardless of the consequences, I always seem to make a statement online about things I see as illegal or unseen being carried out by members of the government. The latest of which are small, almost indetectable tracking devices two of which I found underneath a Walgreens prescription label, 3/4"X1 1/4" X .010" thick, manufactured by TAGSYS a French clothing tracker company. Interesting, isn't it?
Respect,
WarHippy1%

 

[batgirl]

So sorry about your father WarHippy. And sorry about your cancer too. I couldn't completely follow what you're saying, but are you receiving treatment for your cancer right now? I really hope you are. I don't know a lot about prostate cancer but I do believe that you should fight any kind of cancer with all you've got. I fought hard, and I'm in early remission now. Mind you I did have a good prognosis to begin with, but attitude is really important, it was crucial for me.

You're about the same age as my Uncle Jim here on the forum. He joined the military at 16 and he wanted to go to Vietnam too, he says at the time he was young and stupid and wanted to be a hero. Luckily though our country wasn't involved in the Vietnam War, so he didn't go. Who knows, he might have PTSD if he had gone, so I'm terribly glad he didn't!!

Shock treatments, yeah I had a series of those about 3 years ago, but they didn't help me at all. Just made lose bits of my short term memory. And the headaches were terrible of course.

I don't know that I really have a unique opinion on cancer, I just know that you need to fight and have a good attitude, and endure the treatments and tests although it is hard, because in most cases it's definitely worth it in the end. Did you know that the statistics on cancer are actually very good, most people survive, it's only a small percentage, and mostly the very old and the very young, who end up dying from cancer these days. Most forms of cancer are quite treatable. I never realized that until I started having treatments, but modern medicine has come a long way and I think it's important to not think of cancer as the death sentence it was even 20 or 30 years ago.

 

[goingonhope]

I guess it was a lot better than I thought originally.

It is and was very good writing and expression, so I really don't want it out of sight. So, bumping it forward.

.......Also, Just thinking well of you again tonight Evie. Always, Wishing You My Best! And, please do Always Take Care.


Hope

 

[tardis]

Hi Hope. It is a while since you wrote this to Evie, but she is my girlfriend so I passed on the message to her, that you were thinking of her. She said to say HEY!!! to you back (she made me type it thusly hehe) and wishes you all the best as well. She is doing really well with her cancer being in remission for a year now. She also said to tell you, she misses your very positive and uplifting posts since she left the forum. Dean

 

[LightTilDawn]

Tardis- I'm glad you posted on this thread, I'm not sure I would have caught it, being it's kind of old, but it has A LOT of great meaningful opinions and shared experiences.

 

[kaydee]

I Applaud all of you

I have seen these rages from the lovers side and you have just given me incredible hope and resolve. I will stand by my (now ex-) lover knowing it is possible to "change the steps of the dance" as it were.