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This isn’t a fight I’m ever going to win..

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Hi all,

Having a down day again. Fighting this loosing battle I really can’t picture myself being alive for a long time. Before you jump in, I’m not actively suicidal no. But at the same time when I think of my future I don’t see one. I feel as though one day it’ll just be the end, and I’ll finally feel a relief.

I am so so so so so sad. I miss who I was pre/trauma soo bad! But I’m accepting that things will never be the same again, things will never get better. How can someone continue life with that reality? It’s so heavy.
 
I have all this everything in the thread. I feel better that's the only difference. I don't feel a lot better but it's subtle. I know a lot about this and I've been writing a lot above it here and in another forum. I know I wanna submit and I know when I do this happens. But I think I'm doing a big thing and I'm different and it's gonna be different this time and blah blah, same sh*t, lol. It's not hurting as much anymore because I've been practicing. I had a lot to do with it myself. My behaviour is different in that regard.
Yelling I'm not backing down and backing down won't work. Everyone just helps themselves to me. If you stand up for yourself they call you names and say you are all about yourself lol. Being submissive but not a doormat is subtle. Being angry can work but it's ugly, a last resort. "These things have to be done delicately or you break the spell".
 
I completely agree... I seem to be in the same spot and even a bit worse every day, just things in my Sons life my Daughters life and my own.. but the things in my kids lives absolutely destroy me because I love and want to protect them so much (some projection there because of how destructive neglect and abuse can be).
I want them to have what I didn't have, and my X is destroying that too. As soon as something good happens I get hopeful, then as often it does in life, especially mine it seems, everything goes to Hell real fast. Because of my being raised by a socio, every relationship I have had since has been toxic. I have two or three ppl I see about three times a year since my breakdown. Mostly texts, and that's where I blow it too. I just try to reach out for help and I get eye rolls. Sometimes no responses at all, and these ppl are family or ppl I have known over 20 years. They say they care, but the truth becomes painfully clear immediately. People seem so selfish. If it were me I would be trying to physically help that person, be researching, checking on them, looking for solutions actively - but I am bred to be an empath, and they didn't chose or didn't turn out that way, probably because they have no idea the Hell I have experienced (and thank goodness for that, I guess lol). Then I feel guilty for feeling 'poor me'. Its just a mind F 24/7. I just hate myself. At this point its just me and my Son who is autistic and doesn't have the ability to understand anything close to this complex (though he is very smart and intuitive) and in so many ways Im glad he doesn't - though brain trauma has similarities so I can relate to HIM so much more after my breakdown, so I liked feeling that connection to what goes on with him sometimes when stressed, though still makes me extremely sad because he is suffering from that feeling also. My Daughter is 17 and just doesn't want anything to do with me seemingly after I got sick and wasn't able to do as much for them.. even though she got to the point where she understands PTSD a little... and it could be just hormones, being a teen now, etc - but its almost like she does things to hurt me on purpose even though our relationship was so tight. But between me and her socio mother, I guess its not really much of a brag, but we seriously connected - she was in tune with the world and empathetic - well, used to be. She started even snapping at her brother or telling him to rush on things he physically cant do. I should have noticed more then, but I certainly pointed it out and was shocked at her because she was like me with him for so long. Again, not judging, kids are kids.. it was just uncharacteristic. its all hard to explain but I will try (but WHY??! lol)
I cant help but to think her Mother finally broke her after all the abuse and mind control being used on her, esp after the divorce where I couldn't be around to ensure her protection. Its so sick. Its so hard to witness every day from afar, the effects, and the stories.. my Son "Mommy yells at Sissy a lot.. I don't like it. I cover my ears so I don't hear it." OMG rips my heart out. All my work to try and reverse the effects and be in her corner and raise her self esteem seemed to all be in vain, I fail yet again after 17 years of trying so hard putting my heart & soul - showing her nothing but kindness, generosity, empathy &showering her with legit complaments and showering her with love but not obsessively so, just what I felt was 'normal' and felt healthy and natural (but do I even know what healthy and natural is?!). I helped teach her how to get her first job, manage money, buy her own things when we go shopping to get her used to paying for things herself and interactions involved with the cashiers, doing things her mother would never do because these socios and narcs just want their kids around to serve their needs forever, want them to be dependent on them and never teach them ins and outs of relationships, which ones are healthy, or how to simply navigate life or their own neighborhood.
I just don't get it. I keep telling myself (in my head) all those toxic societal sociopathic programmed responses in movies and TV (often written by mentally disturbed people) that are constant 'go to' phrases to use on anyone struggling: 'I get tired/depressed/anxiety too (as in, you aren't going through anything I, or anyone else does - you just keep fighting) - like, duh, how do you think I made it through to 47 after being homeless at 14, being abused by all three family members, and still making a 25 career for myself and becoming somewhat successful locally in music from having literally NOTHING (before the breakdown made these things impossible to continue),' "You need to forgive and move on', 'they had a tough life too, so...' and 'My parents did the best they could..' - like, the people parroting these 'go to' responses when they feel stuck, don't understand, or feel inadequate or insecure for not having a quick answer vs something thoughtful or compassionate. They often have more empathy for the perp than their friend... also I have been telling myself "who was there at each event that went horribly wrong? I was. Therefore, I am the problem - everyone else isn't to blame. Life isn't easy, sure... but they can handle it like you used to be able to, but now cant. And I feel since I researched a lot about this, why cant I just fix it?' on the same coin, I know why my mind keeps going in circles, its all about development and disrupted neural pathways because of repeated trauma as a child (then on through life creating more or putting myself in dangerous situations with dangerous people), and trauma when the brain is developing causes permanent 'mis-wiring' dysregulation. But lately, since my Daughter pulled what she did in January, I just cant shake the suicidal ideation - it was there the first two years, and then again the last year, so 3-4 years out of the 5? I love helping people/strangers but I am convinced its just falling into, or feeding the same destructive habits, the same twisted way I have always been, bending over backwards for others, even strangers, meanwhile I don't feed myself when im hungry, I don't sleep, I don't take care of me. How can I keep giving to get that programmed 'I feel great!" response, that has been twisted and exploited to the point it isn't even genuine, its just a robotic auto response - it was put there.

Anyway, I need to just stop turning a fast reply into a novel - but finally, "Lost" is a great description, I think - that's why my screen name came to be! I had to make a screen name after discovering this great site, and it was the best descriptor I could come up with at the time.

Thank you for listening.. your responses have been great. But please don't feel obligated to reply - you have so much on your own plate. only respond if you have something you want to share, not because of the empathy response I know we all have and struggle with. Sending virtual hugs if you wish to accept them...

I really feel a connection to all of you who have suffered. And CPTSD is PURE HELL of an existence. I don't even know at this point if my Son would miss me, or just keep being directed through life (and autism inherently cuts off the empathy and social norms/cues) so its almost like since he is the last thing I have left in my life, I love him and my Daughter more than anything in the world, but I am getting convinced the good I do is all in my hopes and dreams, like most of them, they too will be crushed, ineffective and incorrectly assessed. They were for my Daughter, after all - and what happened was THE LAST thing I ever expected. I think that was the straw that has me finally completely broken and unwilling to even fight anymore. And worse, she discarded me out of the blue, and just like a socio would do. Just like her mother would and my mother did. I was just horrifying. My angel did quite a number on me, and why? What did I do other than become sick, which SUCKS, but their lives I always stretched myself beyond my ability to just keep normalcy in their lives as much as humanly possible (at least I tried to, and I am pretty good at bending over backwards for people, ESP my kids!).
I just wish I could scrub my mind from all these memories and repetitive thoughts..!
Hope you are feeling better today... hope I didn't ramble too much - I have that problem when I have something I want to say it becomes a big loooooong text or post. Even that annoys me horribly about myself. I just constantly criticize myself just like my Step Father did, every day, 24/7.. all while my sister and Mother let it happen. Once the current man or source of supply for my Mother was tossed, she would then become the main abuser. The men would do it for her, making her seem innocent - but now I see she is just as much to blame, she was always there and NEVER stopped the abuse or defended me from the verbal onslaught. they all would hit me too mostly when she or others weren't around. I just knew deep down I was so sad and wanted to die, imagining my real dad who left at 2 yrs old would swoop in and save me. Once I met him again at 12 (my Mom went after him for support, so he said he wanted to get 'his moneys worth' - and started visiting me.. he was gifted me a gun and offered me beer 24/7, marijuana when he was real drunk & coke (12 yrs old, 45 min flight away from 'home'. He would drive me around drunk. And yes that gun found its way in my mouth quite a lot.. along with a few others I got my hands on (a shotgun at my grandmothers house that used to be her Sons). the only thing that would stop me, at least in my mind, was not wanting them to blame themselves for giving me access to the gun or shotgun, or the scene they would walk in on after being startled awake by the shot. But I wanted to end my life SO BAD. But kids just have this amazing & powerful resillience and a built in drive or feeling that things can get better if you just fight hard enough, or show these people I am not what they say... or I would get a girlfriend, or something else that would convince me I was worth something. Mostly girls, not helthy ones, but a constant distraction of girls and I would get so attached.

WHEW I want/need to write a book about my life. My posts just go straight into trauma town. I want to write the book because I forget or shut out so much that I went through that blows my mind.., but also to just sit back and read everything and feel like superman, to give me pride and hopefully feel like I can endure what most ppl cant or couldn't at that age. but I cant concentrate or focus like AT ALL on much of anything, even if very interested - and its also something that would help ME, so I don't care about doing it for very long and so its on the 'back burner' automatically. I started many times on paper, wrote a outline/timeline, and even tried dictating into a recorder. That's as far as I have got in 5 years. Also who other than myself would read it and even care?! See, here I go rambling ... sorry... take care, sincerely. Hpe this wasn't too much info or triggering.. and don't forget that you are amazing for still being a giving caring person after what you went through.
 
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I completely agree... I seem to be in the same spot and even a bit worse every day, just things in my Sons life my Daughters life and my own.. but the things in my kids lives absolutely destroy me because I love and want to protect them so much (some projection there because of how destructive neglect and abuse can be).
I want them to have what I didn't have, and my X is destroying that too. As soon as something good happens I get hopeful, then as often it does in life, especially mine it seems, everything goes to Hell real fast. Because of my being raised by a socio, every relationship I have had since has been toxic. I have two or three ppl I see about three times a year since my breakdown. Mostly texts, and that's where I blow it too. I just try to reach out for help and I get eye rolls. Sometimes no responses at all, and these ppl are family or ppl I have known over 20 years. They say they care, but the truth becomes painfully clear immediately. People seem so selfish. If it were me I would be trying to physically help that person, be researching, checking on them, looking for solutions actively - but I am bred to be an empath, and they didn't chose or didn't turn out that way, probably because they have no idea the Hell I have experienced (and thank goodness for that, I guess lol). Then I feel guilty for feeling 'poor me'. Its just a mind F 24/7. I just hate myself. At this point its just me and my Son who is autistic and doesn't have the ability to understand anything close to this complex (though he is very smart and intuitive) and in so many ways Im glad he doesn't - though brain trauma has similarities so I can relate to HIM so much more after my breakdown, so I liked feeling that connection to what goes on with him sometimes when stressed, though still makes me extremely sad because he is suffering from that feeling also. My Daughter is 17 and just doesn't want anything to do with me seemingly after I got sick and wasn't able to do as much for them.. even though she got to the point where she understands PTSD a little... and it could be just hormones, being a teen now, etc - but its almost like she does things to hurt me on purpose even though our relationship was so tight. But between me and her socio mother, I guess its not really much of a brag, but we seriously connected - she was in tune with the world and empathetic - well, used to be. She started even snapping at her brother or telling him to rush on things he physically cant do. I should have noticed more then, but I certainly pointed it out and was shocked at her because she was like me with him for so long. Again, not judging, kids are kids.. it was just uncharacteristic. its all hard to explain but I will try (but WHY??! lol)
I cant help but to think her Mother finally broke her after all the abuse and mind control being used on her, esp after the divorce where I couldn't be around to ensure her protection. Its so sick. Its so hard to witness every day from afar, the effects, and the stories.. my Son "Mommy yells at Sissy a lot.. I don't like it. I cover my ears so I don't hear it." OMG rips my heart out. All my work to try and reverse the effects and be in her corner and raise her self esteem seemed to all be in vain, I fail yet again after 17 years of trying so hard putting my heart & soul - showing her nothing but kindness, generosity, empathy &showering her with legit complaments and showering her with love but not obsessively so, just what I felt was 'normal' and felt healthy and natural (but do I even know what healthy and natural is?!). I helped teach her how to get her first job, manage money, buy her own things when we go shopping to get her used to paying for things herself and interactions involved with the cashiers, doing things her mother would never do because these socios and narcs just want their kids around to serve their needs forever, want them to be dependent on them and never teach them ins and outs of relationships, which ones are healthy, or how to simply navigate life or their own neighborhood.
I just don't get it. I keep telling myself (in my head) all those toxic societal sociopathic programmed responses in movies and TV (often written by mentally disturbed people) that are constant 'go to' phrases to use on anyone struggling: 'I get tired/depressed/anxiety too (as in, you aren't going through anything I, or anyone else does - you just keep fighting) - like, duh, how do you think I made it through to 47 after being homeless at 14, being abused by all three family members, and still making a 25 career for myself and becoming somewhat successful locally in music from having literally NOTHING (before the breakdown made these things impossible to continue),' "You need to forgive and move on', 'they had a tough life too, so...' and 'My parents did the best they could..' - like, the people parroting these 'go to' responses when they feel stuck, don't understand, or feel inadequate or insecure for not having a quick answer vs something thoughtful or compassionate. They often have more empathy for the perp than their friend... also I have been telling myself "who was there at each event that went horribly wrong? I was. Therefore, I am the problem - everyone else isn't to blame. Life isn't easy, sure... but they can handle it like you used to be able to, but now cant. And I feel since I researched a lot about this, why cant I just fix it?' on the same coin, I know why my mind keeps going in circles, its all about development and disrupted neural pathways because of repeated trauma as a child (then on through life creating more or putting myself in dangerous situations with dangerous people), and trauma when the brain is developing causes permanent 'mis-wiring' dysregulation. But lately, since my Daughter pulled what she did in January, I just cant shake the suicidal ideation - it was there the first two years, and then again the last year, so 3-4 years out of the 5? I love helping people/strangers but I am convinced its just falling into, or feeding the same destructive habits, the same twisted way I have always been, bending over backwards for others, even strangers, meanwhile I don't feed myself when im hungry, I don't sleep, I don't take care of me. How can I keep giving to get that programmed 'I feel great!" response, that has been twisted and exploited to the point it isn't even genuine, its just a robotic auto response - it was put there.

Anyway, I need to just stop turning a fast reply into a novel - but finally, "Lost" is a great description, I think - that's why my screen name came to be! I had to make a screen name after discovering this great site, and it was the best descriptor I could come up with at the time.

Thank you for listening.. your responses have been great. But please don't feel obligated to reply - you have so much on your own plate. only respond if you have something you want to share, not because of the empathy response I know we all have and struggle with. Sending virtual hugs if you wish to accept them...

I really feel a connection to all of you who have suffered. And CPTSD is PURE HELL of an existence. I don't even know at this point if my Son would miss me, or just keep being directed through life (and autism inherently cuts off the empathy and social norms/cues) so its almost like since he is the last thing I have left in my life, I love him and my Daughter more than anything in the world, but I am getting convinced the good I do is all in my hopes and dreams, like most of them, they too will be crushed, ineffective and incorrectly assessed. They were for my Daughter, after all - and what happened was THE LAST thing I ever expected. I think that was the straw that has me finally completely broken and unwilling to even fight anymore. And worse, she discarded me out of the blue, and just like a socio would do. Just like her mother would and my mother did. I was just horrifying. My angel did quite a number on me, and why? What did I do other than become sick, which SUCKS, but their lives I always stretched myself beyond my ability to just keep normalcy in their lives as much as humanly possible (at least I tried to, and I am pretty good at bending over backwards for people, ESP my kids!).
I just wish I could scrub my mind from all these memories and repetitive thoughts..!
Hope you are feeling better today... hope I didn't ramble too much - I have that problem when I have something I want to say it becomes a big loooooong text or post. Even that annoys me horribly about myself. I just constantly criticize myself just like my Step Father did, every day, 24/7.. all while my sister and Mother let it happen. Once the current man or source of supply for my Mother was tossed, she would then become the main abuser. The men would do it for her, making her seem innocent - but now I see she is just as much to blame, she was always there and NEVER stopped the abuse or defended me from the verbal onslaught. they all would hit me too mostly when she or others weren't around. I just knew deep down I was so sad and wanted to die, imagining my real dad who left at 2 yrs old would swoop in and save me. Once I met him again at 12 (my Mom went after him for support, so he said he wanted to get 'his moneys worth' - and started visiting me.. he was gifted me a gun and offered me beer 24/7, marijuana when he was real drunk & coke (12 yrs old, 45 min flight away from 'home'. He would drive me around drunk. And yes that gun found its way in my mouth quite a lot.. along with a few others I got my hands on (a shotgun at my grandmothers house that used to be her Sons). the only thing that would stop me, at least in my mind, was not wanting them to blame themselves for giving me access to the gun or shotgun, or the scene they would walk in on after being startled awake by the shot. But I wanted to end my life SO BAD. But kids just have this amazing & powerful resillience and a built in drive or feeling that things can get better if you just fight hard enough, or show these people I am not what they say... or I would get a girlfriend, or something else that would convince me I was worth something. Mostly girls, not helthy ones, but a constant distraction of girls and I would get so attached.

WHEW I want/need to write a book about my life. My posts just go straight into trauma town. I want to write the book because I forget or shut out so much that I went through that blows my mind.., but also to just sit back and read everything and feel like superman, to give me pride and hopefully feel like I can endure what most ppl cant or couldn't at that age. but I cant concentrate or focus like AT ALL on much of anything, even if very interested - and its also something that would help ME, so I don't care about doing it for very long and so its on the 'back burner' automatically. I started many times on paper, wrote a outline/timeline, and even tried dictating into a recorder. That's as far as I have got in 5 years. Also who other than myself would read it and even care?! See, here I go rambling ... sorry... take care, sincerely. Hpe this wasn't too much info or triggering.. and don't forget that you are amazing for still being a giving caring person after what you went through.

PS - I had a long post, and I type fast so I just wanted to make sure it was clear that I am NOT suicidal - 'suicidal ideation' is not planning or thinking of planning, it is more like 'sometimes I wish I wasn't around anymore' - which is a common symptom of CPTSD... thank you!
 
Wow @LostInCPTSD! I'm so glad you got that all out! It's difficult for me to write about stuff like that, so I admire your strength in being able to share your story. I can empathize with a lot that you went through and the feelings surrounding them. Do you journal? I used to, and I will start again because knowing my truth is important.
Wow.. thank you. Honestly I have been avoiding this site ever since I posted all that because I feel so ashamed & embarrassed about “puking out” my life in a thread when I intended to be short, sweet & anon. So often anymore I’ll write this huge reply or post and then delete before hitting send because I already get that feeling before I send sometimes, or because I’m finally learning how it effects me later. Not great. I just have trouble being brief on this subject.

So thank you so much for responding so positively.

Well, I try to journal, but it ends up being inconsistent - notes, voice recordings, outlines of my life so I remember how I got here cause most the time I’m avoiding thoughts & memories at all costs to keep from getting emotional or exhausted by then.., I get side tracked, or I trigger myself and it just goes and goes, it I’ll use a voice recorder to just record what I need to say if it’s ‘too hard’ for me to write, but I feel like I need to make some kind of record of what I’m feeling or something.. but I do want to be able (or focus enough or find it important enough or care about myself enough) to do it because for me it feels like selfishness when I do things for myself - even though I do sometimes do things for myself when stressed or want to try and feel good, and just say ‘screw it im doing this!’ - But after, it always ends with s big guilty episode..! Like: I have kids, I’m on disability - I didn’t have or shouldn’t have spent that money - or there’s this or that I could have done to help the kids so mehow during that time (even though I know being good to myself will make me a better Father, or at least be working towards that!).
So yeah, I’m a mess..! Thank you again for asking..
When you journaled, did you often go back & read past stuff you wrote and find that helps to see you made progress, or just because it’s interesting as far as self-awareness/exploration? Or do you really never re-read, but keep writing daily because it’s therapeutic?
Peace! ☮️ ?
 
I didn't journal about my trauma but everything I was going through with facing it and all my thoughts and fears. I did go back and read sometimes, to see how far I've come and to make sure I worked on stuff. I started art journaling, or rather scrapbook journaling, where I would decorate my pages. That was interesting. I keep that one.

I was just diagnosed with a slow growing cancer, and I started a new journal about that, my fears and hopes, etc. I threw away most of my old journals, but have instructed my son to throw away the rest if I die before my mother. I really think it helps, and I saw a pattern of spiraling down that I could then catch in the early stages and change some of my thinking before I got upset. You could journal here also in a diary, but it wouldn't be as private. Feel free to tag me, use the @ button before my name if you have any other questions. I will see it if you post here though.
 
Wow.. thank you. Honestly I have been avoiding this site ever since I posted all that because I feel so ashamed & embarrassed about “puking out” my life in a thread when I intended to be short, sweet & anon. So often anymore I’ll write this huge reply or post and then delete before hitting send because I already get that feeling before I send sometimes, or because I’m finally learning how it effects me later. Not great. I just have trouble being brief on this subject.

So thank you so much for responding so positively.

Well, I try to journal, but it ends up being inconsistent - notes, voice recordings, outlines of my life so I remember how I got here cause most the time I’m avoiding thoughts & memories at all costs to keep from getting emotional or exhausted by then.., I get side tracked, or I trigger myself and it just goes and goes, it I’ll use a voice recorder to just record what I need to say if it’s ‘too hard’ for me to write, but I feel like I need to make some kind of record of what I’m feeling or something.. but I do want to be able (or focus enough or find it important enough or care about myself enough) to do it because for me it feels like selfishness when I do things for myself - even though I do sometimes do things for myself when stressed or want to try and feel good, and just say ‘screw it im doing this!’ - But after, it always ends with s big guilty episode..! Like: I have kids, I’m on disability - I didn’t have or shouldn’t have spent that money - or there’s this or that I could have done to help the kids so mehow during that time (even though I know being good to myself will make me a better Father, or at least be working towards that!).
So yeah, I’m a mess..! Thank you again for asking..
When you journaled, did you often go back & read past stuff you wrote and find that helps to see you made progress, or just because it’s interesting as far as self-awareness/exploration? Or do you really never re-read, but keep writing daily because it’s therapeutic?
Peace! ☮️ ?

Oh I am so so so so proud of your for this. Thank you for taking the time to sharing your journey and your heart with us. I am so sorry that I have been absent. I’ve tried to respond to this post several times now and actually every time I’ve written back I didn’t think it was good enough. I didn’t think my response showed enough appreciation and acknowledgment of how brave you are for sharing your life with me/us. So I ended up deleting each post.. I’m sorry. I hope you are doing well?!

I’ve been fighting my flashbacks real hard recently. It is still beyond me why my brain would want to remind me of every excruciating detail of my trauma in absolute HD vision on a regular basis. Going through my trauma once was absolutely enough to destroy my life, having to now re-live it everyday is just death to be honest. I cried tonight, I cried pretty hard. When the imagery hit me very clearly, I gently tapped my forehead as though to say ‘get out of my head!’ but it wouldn’t... and I cried. I cried saying ‘I just want to be a normal person again’... how F sad is that??!! How F sad is it that I am so aware that this isn’t an illness I’m ever going to win with. How sad is it knowing that actually no matter how much internal work you do the pain is just as excruciating and raw every single time, just like the first time! I really really just want to be cured of this illness, this pain, this trauma, this whatever all of this is I don’t want it anymore!
 
Please don’t feel bad about anything, I more than understand and entirely empathize, I am living it just like you.. - I am just now checking back. I read posts but I was afraid to check reply’s again. I have deleted so many responses I can’t count them all. I just second guess everything I do. I used to be ‘OCD’ (not diagnosed, just a metaphor) like, with being clean and cleaning up and organization and the way I am now I can’t deal with! Just constant guilt and yes, the flashbacks, nightmares and the replay of events and phrases - I have NO IDEA why they are still here. I went through two years of therapy 2-3 hours a week to work on this and all I did was discover more traumatic events to add to the others yet ‘knowledge is power’ part I thought should fix just about everything, just doesn’t apply for some reason. I’m tired of it. I know what happened - LETS MOVE ON!!! But no... You describe how I feel exactly. I don’t know how to say it better than you have. I really appreciate your responses and your expression of your frustrations and your current state. Every word feels like a long lost friend or my twin talking to me. I wouldn’t wish this torture on my worst enemy. Maybe not even the person/people who did this to me (but of course most the time I get so angry I wish they would more-than-implode!).. it’s like a nightmare I feel like I will never wake from - one where I know one day I will not wake up because a person can only take so much - I had my breakdown, my realization, being torn down in therapy (and still trying to reform into ‘me’ - Ifeel like I am a f*cking infant - and the stressors don’t stop - for me, life keeps getting worse - and “no wonder, with this attitude”!!! I want to end this “attitude”, I was done years ago - I’m ready to move on, so why can’t I like I could my whole life?! It all just doesn’t make sense.
 
I didn't journal about my trauma but everything I was going through with facing it and all my thoughts and fears. I did go back and read sometimes, to see how far I've come and to make sure I worked on stuff. I started art journaling, or rather scrapbook journaling, where I would decorate my pages. That was interesting. I keep that one.

I was just diagnosed with a slow growing cancer, and I started a new journal about that, my fears and hopes, etc. I threw away most of my old journals, but have instructed my son to throw away the rest if I die before my mother. I really think it helps, and I saw a pattern of spiraling down that I could then catch in the early stages and change some of my thinking before I got upset. You could journal here also in a diary, but it wouldn't be as private. Feel free to tag me, use the @ button before my name if you have any other questions. I will see it if you post here though.
Such great tools - That is interesting about the journaling and you make good points about it helping you recall how you were (maybe in terms of measuring progress, or just to reminisce because - at least for me - my memory has gotten embarrassing. Both current and the past) Then I read about your health - I am so sorry.. I couldn’t imagine on top of it all, esp if you have a husband, family, kids, or Hell, am I kidding - even none). A confession of mine here, and a shameful & dirty one, I wished for cancer about a month through first year of this after my breakdown - the heart pounding constantly for months.. I had stress rashes all over my face and a fever of 101 for at least a year. The fevers about 5 times a day... so people could at least try to empathize or recognize I need help (as I was actively trying to downplay symptoms and hide all symptoms from my Son who was just 10 - also, because I wanted to go away ‘naturally’, in a way ppl understand in an instant (rather, THINK they do) because my physical and mental symptoms are just not explainable, and society is just brainwashed to victimize the victim and let petty issues that of something to cry over at a moments notice due to ‘feelings’ or politics!) and I feel like ppl think I just want attention. If they would just know, or believe, ‘I’m sick’ I think a lot of my mental anguish would be gone - but then, as few ppl that are around me, probably not as much as I think - I just don’t know anything anymore. I feel emasculated to my core - and so much of my pride in self derived from ‘making it from being 14, living on the streets, and having nothing to a 65K career by myself, a wife, four bedroom home, two cars, two kids.. all after coming from a home that taught me nothing about life, abused me, and in fact undermined me!” that was such a huge source of self esteem for me - and so much of it is working hard and being a great, punctual hard worker ! now even that is gone, and I’m a worse basket case than I was sleeping in parks and having no food every day. Ok, sorry, probably lots of tangents and run on sentences - and I may even be conflating both replies at this point - and if I am, I sincerely apologize it’s not personal it’s the way I respond when anything about my childhood comes up in my mind - the things that make me just delete and think to myself I’m not helping matters - and you both encouraged me to just do it and not delete and it means so much-again, no obligation for future replies - cause believe me, I understand disappearing for days or even months, being exhausted, tired of thinking about it or just not wanting to help myself because I have given up for that period of time, etc)

The only thing I can say to help that particular illness is my Father in law passed from cancer and his Daughter helped him live twice as long (I don’t think he stuck with it) was basically juicing every day, every meal, and CBD oil.. followed The Gershon Method..? I bought the book if you need any more info on it - it really helped him a great deal. God bless and I am sending the healthiest vibes your way, so they may heal you, stronger than you were before. I’m sorry for all the pain you are going through! Thank you for being so open and even offering your time to listen to me - that means SO MUCH, you don’t even know.
Like don’t worry, knowing me I will not bother you - but just to hear that offer and that caring just warms the soul like a sincere ‘I love you’ coming from your child, or a hug from one of those people who really give great hugs, you know what I mean? Thank you. I wish I was able to give more. I keep trying to volunteer at the homeless shelter or children’s hospital - but I’m telling you just looking at what they going through would just have me more upset! I have gone there in the past to give for Christmas and it’s instant water works. I was homeless at 14, family lived in a van for like 5 years, then a camper for another two inside my step fathers mechanic shop, then moved into a house at like 8-9? So I’m not disparaging of either - in fact I think it’s partly because I lived in both situations for a time and know the feeling of knowing your parents didn’t want you. Oh I’m thinking of the children’s homeless shelter - but really, knowing no one loves you to point that you are 14 and have no home or food - it’s such a difficult thing to mentally push down-but I know we all have that problem, just different circumstances and timeline. God bless you all.

By the way the most effective thing I have found to be effective is EFT - tapping that you do yourself - instant calm - my problem is when my symptoms come on most the time it’s so instantaneous, and floods over me so fast - I am not thinking logically at all, so I don’t employ the best tool I have found at the times it’s worst - but I do for much smaller ones or just in place of meditation, etc. just YouTube “EFT” it’s tapping on nerve endings that are connected to the brain - you soon realize why parents have the instinct to calm a baby by holding it on shoulder and patting their back? Lots of nerve endings back there - it’s our instincts kicking in - tapping calms the mind/nervous system - no matter how jacked up one is, it works !! It can put you to sleep! A miracle for me. Better than any drug (if you keep going lol) But I really I hope this info helps - it I think the best thing I have found after exhaustive research for “tools and cures” when it comes to these symptoms.. I just wish/hope I could get to the point where I recognize a trigger/flashback and employ this technique before it spirals down. BTW - this “EFT” - share it with everyone - I mean if you are just nervous because of a test or waiting for an interview, after a near-car accident - using tapping during these times - I wish I discovered it as a child OMG I think my life would be changed for the better forever, regardless. Anyways-thanks again all I will stop here or I’ll nrver stop!!
 
Please don’t feel bad about anything, I more than understand and entirely empathize, I am living it just like you.. - I am just now checking back. I read posts but I was afraid to check reply’s again. I have deleted so many responses I can’t count them all. I just second guess everything I do. I used to be ‘OCD’ (not diagnosed, just a metaphor) like, with being clean and cleaning up and organization and the way I am now I can’t deal with! Just constant guilt and yes, the flashbacks, nightmares and the replay of events and phrases - I have NO IDEA why they are still here. I went through two years of therapy 2-3 hours a week to work on this and all I did was discover more traumatic events to add to the others yet ‘knowledge is power’ part I thought should fix just about everything, just doesn’t apply for some reason. I’m tired of it. I know what happened - LETS MOVE ON!!! But no... You describe how I feel exactly. I don’t know how to say it better than you have. I really appreciate your responses and your expression of your frustrations and your current state. Every word feels like a long lost friend or my twin talking to me. I wouldn’t wish this torture on my worst enemy. Maybe not even the person/people who did this to me (but of course most the time I get so angry I wish they would more-than-implode!).. it’s like a nightmare I feel like I will never wake from - one where I know one day I will not wake up because a person can only take so much - I had my breakdown, my realization, being torn down in therapy (and still trying to reform into ‘me’ - Ifeel like I am a f*cking infant - and the stressors don’t stop - for me, life keeps getting worse - and “no wonder, with this attitude”!!! I want to end this “attitude”, I was done years ago - I’m ready to move on, so why can’t I like I could my whole life?! It all just doesn’t make sense.

You have no clue how much your words resonate with me!! I have done everything (bar medication) that they say will get you ‘better’ on paper so why the hell am I stuck in this nightmare still?! It’s extremely frustrating because the whole thing feels like a rollercoaster ride. I wake up enthusiastic, in full ‘I’m going to sort my life out’ mode, the whole ‘I won’t let this determine who I am! I am a powerful, kind hearted individual’, I’ll have a few at most productive days whereby I will clean & organise my entire life and then I’ll get a flashback, or a trigger will pop up and it brings me right back to square one and I realise just how much of a messed up individual I am. How I’m not actually this ‘sort my life out’ functioning human. How I have pain I don’t think I’m ever truly going to get over, but rather hope to learn to carry in a way that is less soul destroying. And then I start going through the motions - ‘I’ll never get better, I’ll never be even part of the woman I used to be, why did this happen to me’ so on and so forth. Oh and let’s not forget the frustration aspect of it all! I’ll get a flashback and actually get soooo angry at myself like WHY THE F ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME BRAIN?! Why when I am trying so hard to continue a functioning life?!!!! Ugh. You’re right, it does often feel like we are infants, learning about life from scratch, except infants are loving and trusting and they may fall and hurt themselves along the way but still get up, that’s bravery.. Unfortunately we no longer have that innocence and we’re way too aware to be that brave.
 
Like don’t worry, knowing me I will not bother you -

I hope you will. This is why we all are here, to help each other. I can speak to a lot of what you've been through. I also had a good career that I lost when I had my breakdown. You started from nothing and proved you could make a good life, then illness struck you down. Just like any other illness could have. You did all that despite the illness and when it got too much, you became sick. And it is a physical illness that shows up in psychological ways, in my opinion. It makes physical changes in your brain. You did NOT fail, you have an illness that is not your fault.

, and society is just brainwashed to victimize the victim

It's true, and PTSD has become the flavor of the week. People don't even believe in it anymore. "everyone has that" or "Oh, not you too". Not that I tell anyone. TV shows make it worse! Ugh.

I feel like ppl think I just want attention

But you can't read their mind, so let that thought go. There is a thread here on cognitive distortions that is really helpful separating what is real and what your brain tells you is going on.

that was such a huge source of self esteem for me

I, too, derived a lot of self esteem from my job. I was making a lot, taking my son on wonderful vacations, and got a lot of respect. Then poof. All gone. I had to find new things to make my life worthwhile. That's another section of the journalling. Many of us are told what we like and don't like, so do we know what we want? I made a list, it was slow going, of things I liked, not that others told me I liked, or I felt I should like, or I thought I liked, and it slowly evolved into homesteading for me. I have lovely flower gardens in the front, along with pallet gardens with greens and garlic. In the back I have a huge veggie garden, fruit trees, and blueberries. I planted raspberries along the side of the house. The herbs are also in the front.

In the back I have 41 chickens. I sell eggs and chicks. I love my life now, I really do. Lots of physical exercise and fresh air and I feel like I have a purpose. This took about 6 years from breakdown to a new life, but it was because I worked on finding out what I liked to do, then setting up a way to do it. PTSD means everything you do takes work, but we are stronger from having been through things that would have messed others up.

I am not thinking logically at all, so I don’t employ the best tool

I have done everything (bar medication) that they say will get you ‘better’ on paper so why the hell am I stuck in this nightmare still?

That happens. It takes a lot of practice so your employing the tool on the lesser stressors will eventually help the worse ones. It's been almost 7 years since my breakdown and I still react badly to triggers and stressors sometimes. I don't think we will ever be 100% on it, but practicing helps. It's horrible to start to get better, and it seems like you described, @Itsnotyouitsme, like you try and try and it doesn't get better. It will. Since you are doing what they are saying, over time. a long time, it will get better. It's two steps forward, one step back. I think of so many people on this board who have been through this and in the long run have become better.

trigger will pop up and it brings me right back to square one

It happens. Maybe soon you'll notice that your recovery from the trigger takes less time or that you can deal with the trigger a tiny bit better. A lot of us use medication to get through the worse part, then taper off. I did but now that I have cancer, my doc wants me to start medication again.

How I’m not actually this ‘sort my life out’ functioning human

But you're here, trying to sort your life out. You are doing it if you can come here and post, meaning that you can take small steps to move forward. I know it's hell, I've been there where it seems you have no control over anything, and you may never regain control over everything, but you can regain a decent life. You don't have to suffer all the time but damn, it seems to take forever. I still don't have control over a lot of stuff, but I have enough to want to live and do what I like.

I hope you both feel better and things start working in your favor soon.
 
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