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Tennisply13

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Hey Everyone,

I’ve been dating my gf for about 6 months now and things have gotten tough. I’ve read through the forum post and know my situation isn’t unique which is a great help. But I think I need to just get it out and perhaps getting a little feedback can help.

We met through work and flirted and one thing led to another and we started hanging out. Things were great the first few months. We took things slow and one day we both told each other we love each other.

Around this time she had to deal with her ex the cause of her trauma and she isolated herself. At that time I didn’t really understand, she had warned me that she pulls into her shell and can focus without talking to people. It was much worse than I had anticipated. Finally I called her on the phone and we had a great conversation. After that things seemed to go back to normal and we started hanging out again.

Around late June I could see the pattern again start. I knew she had an obligation coming up that was going to be similar to the previous time she isolated. I tired to prepare myself for the inevitable isolation but it didn’t come this time. This time she would still want to talk and see me but she became distance when we were together. She wouldn’t hug or kiss me. It wasn’t a problem at first but as the days went by it became harder and harder for me to understand what I had done wrong (I know, I shouldn’t take things personally).

So I am a talker, I always feel the best way to approach anything especially a relationship is to have open conversations. So I decided to voice my feelings. This upset her far more than I had expected. She angrily told me that I she can’t handle her own emotions so it’s too much for her to deal with mine. I was so confused at this point. At the time I couldn’t understand what I had done. Later we were talking outside of work and she blew me off. I said what the f*ck and this upset her. This is the beginning of what I’m trying to process.

I didn’t speak to her for a few days. So I called her one day and apologized for upsetting her that wasn’t my intention. I told her I was working on communicating better with her instead of just reacting emotionally I would take time to calm down before I tried to have a conversation. She told me it was a red flag. And that cut me very deep. I than began to wonder if I was actually abusive.

I than chose to seek some help. I was hurt and at this time I thought the relationship was over. I spoke with a therapist and asked if he thought I was abusive after I explained the situation. He said from what he heard no it was probably just her trauma.

We were supposed to go to a wedding of my friend. She tells me a week before that she won’t have a sitter. I get upset and walk away so I can calm down. We begin to have a conversation, I can see she is upset and ask her why. She then tells me do you think I want to have to be home all the time. I don’t ever see my friends, I don’t get to do anything. I tell her I understand but I was just looking forward to it because we hadn’t spent any time with just the two us in over two month and that I thought it would be fun for both of us.

So a few days later we are outside of work again, I tell her that I went and spoke with someone. I told her I realized I had somethings I need to work out and actually dating you and having these come to the surface are good for me. She responded by telling me she’s making me crazy and that she doesn’t want her problems to become my problems. I attempted to explain that she had nothing to do with the issues that are surfacing. (Mostly trust issues from previous relationships about cheating, when she isolates and there is a lack of intimacy my gut reaction is there must be someone else. She’s given me no reason to think otherwise so it’s just my baggage I need to work on). I tell her I only know her as she is now and I still want to be with her. She proceeds to tell me to pick some else. She also tells me she’d never see a therapist for me.

A few days later we are talking and she tells me she has to see her ex face to face in a few weeks to discuss their child. She tells me she’s feeling overwhelmed. I just listen and ask her what she’s planning on doing. I give little bits of advice. Once again we are talking after work and I got hug her goodbye and she cringes. This is a first, since we’ve been together she’s never acted like this. She hadn’t wanted to kiss and she would give me light hugs but never cringed. That hurt me a lot. She knew it did and then went into a bit of rant about how she used to be able to come to work and talk without worrying. And now she feels she can’t do that anymore because of me. At this point I was taken aback because this had never been brought up before. She tells me she’s already overwhelmed and dealing with is too much. That everything is just too much. I tell her I’ll never truly understand what she been through but I’m here for what ever she needs. We wish each other goodnight. I tell her I love you and she barely audibly says it in return.

We don’t talk for a few days. I texted her before bed like we normal do and she stopped responding. After a few nights of this we have a short conversation. I ask her at one point what she needs from me, I explain that if she needs space tell me, if she wants to stop the relationship I understand and if you don’t know that fine too. She tells she needs nothing. I say ok and that I’m here for no matter what. She proceeds to tell me that to support her mean cheering her on silently but not taking on her problems. I tell her if that’s what you need I can do that. I also explain that it’s hard to not want to try and help more when I can see you’re overwhelmed. She then tells me that this what she taking about, she continues to tell me make her feel like she’s being rushed to get better. I don’t know what to say. I tell her that’s not my intention but if that’s how I’m making you feel. She then starts yelling, telling me that she told me her problems weren’t about me, that she’s overwhelmed and she pulls away when she feels like she hurting someone, about how shes making me crazy because I’m making her problems my problems and that now she has to yell for anyone to understand this isn’t about them. She then apologizes for getting angry and yelling. I tell I don’t mind it ok to be angry.

This was about a week ago and she has had minimal contact other than the few days we see each other at work. I’ve have given her space and haven’t talked to her much. After typing this out I feel bit better. I’m filled with so many emotions. It’s hard to understand because at this point I don’t know if we are still together or not. I want to call her and text her but I don’t think that will be the best thing. It’s been a month since I’ve seen outside of work, now at work she’ll have conversations with everyone but me. From reading this forum I understand better that she avoids me because there a feeling when with other people there is less stress but it still hurts. I don’t really know what I’m looking for from this post but I just needed to get it out.
 
Ayyyy carumba. Your story felt so familiar to me. I was with MY ex for 6 months, before things fell apart. Now that I've had more time to read other people's stories, certain things he did make more sense to me. Things were going so well for us, and he had said I love you, unsolicited, for the first time ever. RIght after that, things went downhill. We had a phone conversation where he was mean to me. Just cold..sort of making fun of me. (seems like what your gf has been doing..distancing herself from you)

I got him to talk to me about what was wrong, and he was extremely reluctant (having to do with a previous, abusive rel'ship). He had gotten into a car accident not long before that, and when he told me, I was a bit worried about him. Apparently this bothered him, because now in addition to feeling worried about the aftermath of the accident, he was worried about ME. Like, he didn't like that his problems spilled onto me. (Sounds a bit like what your gf was saying to you). I don't know why both my ex and your gf felt like they had to be responsible for OUR feelings. Maybe there is a way you can tell her that. That she is NOT making you "crazy". You're just a very caring person. I felt resentful when my ex told me he saw me caring too much as a problem. I told him, I love you so I don't know how to turn that off?? I had no idea how he expected me to "fix" that. Nobody I'd dated had ever indicated that me worrying/caring about them was a problem.

My ex said the accident was bad enough and he didn't need the additional layer of worrying about MY feelings about his accident. Not sure what you do with a statement like that. I felt kinda at a loss.

My story is in different posts on this forum. I won't go into all the complicated, confusing details. He got distant with me which triggered my fear of abandonment..I broke up w him then regretted it right away. Tried to work things out w him but me breaking up w him, made him project his ex onto me..that was not fun.

I thought maybe he needed space to work on his issues. I think he interpreted that as a rejection. I asked him if he wanted me to wait for him to do so, he said no. That crushed me. HE did say we could try to be friends down the road. I didn't think I could do that.

We went a cpl of months w/out talking to each other. I tried twice to work things out--I was even willing to see a therapist. THe first time, he replied to me with a bunch of psycho babble where he impugned what my motives were in a very ridiculous, hurtful way. I felt like maybe he was psychoanalyzing me to avoid discussing his feelings

I waited another cpl of months and tried around my birthday, in June, to see him. I really wanted to try to reconcile. But I guess I said too many things that scared him. I told him I thought he had acted out of fear, after expressing his love, and that really the way he treated me didn't have anythign to do with our relationship, but more to do with his ex. He dismissed me saying it wasn't in his interest to "decode everything" as it could only hurt him. (Even though in the same email, he told me he was OVER our relationship and not missing it.) I felt like it was a harsh, cruel brushoff considering all I was asking for was to sit down and talk.

Here's a tip--do not try to analyze what went wrong in the rel'ship with her. That went horribly for me. I have no faith we'll ever get back together now.
 
Ayyyy carumba. Your story felt so familiar to me. I was with MY ex for 6 months, before things fell apart. Now that I've had more time to read other people's stories, certain things he did make more sense to me. Things were going so well for us, and he had said I love you, unsolicited, for the first time ever. RIght after that, things went downhill. We had a phone conversation where he was mean to me. Just cold..sort of making fun of me. (seems like what your gf has been doing..distancing herself from you)

I got him to talk to me about what was wrong, and he was extremely reluctant (having to do with a previous, abusive rel'ship). He had gotten into a car accident not long before that, and when he told me, I was a bit worried about him. Apparently this bothered him, because now in addition to feeling worried about the aftermath of the accident, he was worried about ME. Like, he didn't like that his problems spilled onto me. (Sounds a bit like what your gf was saying to you). I don't know why both my ex and your gf felt like they had to be responsible for OUR feelings. Maybe there is a way you can tell her that. That she is NOT making you "crazy". You're just a very caring person. I felt resentful when my ex told me he saw me caring too much as a problem. I told him, I love you so I don't know how to turn that off?? I had no idea how he expected me to "fix" that. Nobody I'd dated had ever indicated that me worrying/caring about them was a problem.

My ex said the accident was bad enough and he didn't need the additional layer of worrying about MY feelings about his accident. Not sure what you do with a statement like that. I felt kinda at a loss.

My story is in different posts on this forum. I won't go into all the complicated, confusing details. He got distant with me which triggered my fear of abandonment..I broke up w him then regretted it right away. Tried to work things out w him but me breaking up w him, made him project his ex onto me..that was not fun.

I thought maybe he needed space to work on his issues. I think he interpreted that as a rejection. I asked him if he wanted me to wait for him to do so, he said no. That crushed me. HE did say we could try to be friends down the road. I didn't think I could do that.

We went a cpl of months w/out talking to each other. I tried twice to work things out--I was even willing to see a therapist. THe first time, he replied to me with a bunch of psycho babble where he impugned what my motives were in a very ridiculous, hurtful way. I felt like maybe he was psychoanalyzing me to avoid discussing his feelings

I waited another cpl of months and tried around my birthday, in June, to see him. I really wanted to try to reconcile. But I guess I said too many things that scared him. I told him I thought he had acted out of fear, after expressing his love, and that really the way he treated me didn't have anythign to do with our relationship, but more to do with his ex. He dismissed me saying it wasn't in his interest to "decode everything" as it could only hurt him. (Even though in the same email, he told me he was OVER our relationship and not missing it.) I felt like it was a harsh, cruel brushoff considering all I was asking for was to sit down and talk.

Here's a tip--do not try to analyze what went wrong in the rel'ship with her. That went horribly for me. I have no faith we'll ever get back together now.
Been there, done that for two years and gave up in May. He has tried to get me back eight times....to continue to be exclusive, but not in a relationship...and still no intimacy outside the bedroom, because that equals relationship and he can’t do that...claims he wants to be single the rest of his life. He isolated frequently...just from me...could spend hours and hours with everybody but me...ouchhh! It freaked me out...was he having sex with other women? He wasn’t....I know. Why couldn’t he spend time with me like he could the first year...because I had expectations of a relationship...I was dangerous. Since May I have seen him three times....and that wasn’t good for either of us...it messed with our heads big time!

I have a hard time letting go of the dream of us...but the truth is that I don’t know what was PTSD and simply him. He is not in therapy...he is not ready for that and even if he came back and had been in therapy for a long time...I really don’t think I would dare to take him back....PTSD is a bitch! Like so many other supporters, I found this Forum after I broke it off and being here is the reason why, I have been strong enough to not take him back! Reading supporter’s stories so similar to mine has assured me that I am not alone...that he is classic PTSD. Reading sufferer’s answers to supporters has helped me immensely to understand why he acted like he did....once again; thanks to all the wonderful sufferers who have the energy to help us understand better ?❤️
I know how you hurt! How your heart is breaking! But the fact is that she only pulls away and reacts like she does because she likes you...has feelings for you. Maybe she goes numb and is not in touch with her feelings...maybe she can’t figure out if she loves you or not. My ex goes numb when it comes to love...he knows that he desires me, likes me a whole lot, is fascinated by me, trusts me...the ingredients for love...but he claims he can’t feel the difference between loving me as a friend or a girlfriend...he feels numb in that direction and that is his Limbo...torn between wanting a relationship and not wanting one.

What I have learned by experience and from this Forum is this; do not push for relationship, intimacy and time with her! This is sooooo important if you want to be with her! Best of luck to you.

Oups this was meant for @Tennisply13 Sorry!
 
Yep, the good hard push away. Sound pretty familar. I don't have an answer for it other then to just leave her be and let her come to you but it sounds oh so familar.

I agree with @EveHarrington, that the "cringe" could have actually been a flinch. Makes way more sense of having PTSD and having hyper arrousal symptoms. Esepcially if she is an abuse victim. They can look and feel the same but are not the same at all. If she was very sympothmatic at the time, a flinch is much more likely.
 
Thanks for the feedback. It probably was a flinch but felt much worse. I know I need to let her be but that’s hard for me. One of those things I need to get more comfortable with. Should I reach out at all, my only concern is she’ll think I’m abandoning her. We discussed when she isolated the last time that if she was feeling like that just to let me know and I’ll give her the space she needs. She hasn’t done that and I think much of my frustration and upset are that she hasn’t let me know. If she needs the space I don’t have a problem with that, I really do understand that she needs it.
 
Honestly, after my experience, I would not reach out. She needs to be in the driver seat.

To give her space, just focus on yourself and do fun things for yourself. Whenever you think of her, just distract yourself. And post here for support :)
 
Yes, could be a flinch. Especially being hyper-aware of (all) other's words, micro-expressions, body language, etc.

But from what else you've said she sounds overwhelmed and needs space/ lack of pressure.

I would say the below, and then leave it at that (but don't mention your hurt and frustration atm):

my only concern is she’ll think I’m abandoning her. We discussed when she isolated the last time that if she was feeling like that just to let me know and I’ll give her the space she needs. She hasn’t done that and .. If she needs the space I don’t have a problem with that, I really do understand that she needs it.

^^ (But not as a question, just as a statement).

Best wishes to you both. :hug:
 
So bit of an update which is confusing more than clarifying anything. We ended up having to work together day because of some call offs. For the first half of the day she didn’t really speak to anyone and just scrolled through Facebook when she had down time. Later on our shift I asked her a work related question.

After that she seemed to open up. We’ve talked just about regular things. I’m just going to let things go and not push anything. It’s kind of throw me off because I was prepared to give her her space but these are the moments I struggle to know what the right thing to do is. This time I think I’ll still give her some space and let her continue to open back up to me. Anyway thought I’d let you guys know.

Thanks again for all the feedback
 
It’s kind of throw me off because I was prepared to give her her space but these are the moments I struggle to know what the right thing to do is

Not sure there is an exact right thing. Giving her space when she clearly needs it is good. Scrolling through social media can be a very good distraction from symptoms.

With that being said, it really sounded like you have a clear boundry or understanding that was not adhered to. She is to tell you that she needs space so you are not guessing. I'd ask her about that. Remind her of that boundry or understanding and see if she sees that is like "damn! My bad! I need space". Or, she may say that she needs something entirely. Who knows. But reminding her of that boundry and/or agreed understanding where both parties agreed isn't wrong to do. You shouldn't have to play the guessing game. No one is a mind reader!
 
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