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Um, Hmm. Disassociation Or Add?

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ellebelle

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So, I probably sound like a moron to most of you, but this is all very new to me.

As a brief introduction, my trauma occurred in childhood and adolescence, and yet I've always been a bright girl.

I've been diagnosed with adult ADD (distractibility, rather than hyperactivity) and for many of the things you guys are calling disassociation. Yikes.

An example- when I'm in a lecture and get oh, slightly distracted for whatever reason, I tune out and only realize (a lengthy time later) that I have been completely absent and have no clue what the hell is being discussed. Or I can begin drawing whilst someone's going on, and just go somewhere else in my mind, not thinking at all.. and only resurface later to realize I've missed the whole lecture or whatever someone's said to me.

Another reason for my diagnosis is that sometimes when I'm trying to speak, it's as of multiple sentences converge into one, and the entire thing comes out all jumbled up, and makes no sense at all. This is particularly embarrassing, it's as if my brain short-circuits or speeds up to where I try to get more out at once than is possible.

Has anyone had any experience with disassociation and ADD? Maybe the combination of the two, or how might one distinguish between them? I could frequently disassociate, even out of my body at times, when I was younger...I thought I was either crazy or slightly psychic, something off.. But I had no idea that's what was happening.

This might even be what has happened several times while I've been driving home and completely lost track of the entire drive.. I'd somehow arrived at my destination without any memory of the latter half of the drive.. What the hell.

Now that I think about it, I believe that's also what contributed to many negative situations I've found myself in... Instead of jumping up and screaming "this isn't right!" I would just disassociate and sort of wait for it all to be over and done with... ugh, shivers*

How the heck are you supposed to stop this from happening?
 
I have a lot dissociation and derealizations. I don't know if it is necessary to distinguish from having ADD or having a dissociation. You can ask your doctor. Normally doctor's wouldn't care I think, but maybe I am wrong. My doctor says the diagnosis doesn't matter really as long as the symptoms are being treated, but I don't know how it is with ADD. Do you get a different medication due to the ADD? I have a hard time talking and I think this is also due to the dissociations. If you have trauma then it would probably be due to dissociations, but I am no doctor so I am not sure.
 
I take 70 mg of Vyvanse daily, which is basically like adderall on steroids, and lasts for about 16 hours per dose.

Right now I'm not taking anything as I've been having panic attacks again and don't want medication complications in the midst of it all.

But after reading the thread on examples of disassociation, I'm even more confused, lol. I did make a rather lengthy post on similar experiences of my own, but still am unsure where the line is drawn between overactive imagination/ distractibility and disassociation, but I think you're right, it's very hard to tell and who even knows?

Overall the vyvanse does help me with organizing my thoughts and getting motivated to actually complete tasks, but it doesn't really do anything for the episodes where I seem to just 'tune out' emotionally. What a mess.
 
My doctor gave me Risperidon added to the Amitripltin (Anti-anxiety) medication. Risperidon is supposed to help with dissociation. I've taken it twice already and it hasn't helped with my dissociations at all. I think the only thing that can help the dissociation is the trauma therapy and grounding techniques. There are lot of grounding techniques you can learn. I haven't learned them yet. I do it so much, it is rather overwhelming. It's gotten way out of control. When I'm stressed or get triggered in a conversation, I just starting drifting. It feels like I am just slipping away into nothingness. :(
 
Yep, well that just sounds spot on. Guess I probably need to see that therapist after all...lol

Well I'm sorry they aren't helping you. I've learned that personally, the more meds I take, the more messed up I get, so I'm not planning on taking anything else. But it is definitely a habit I want to break, as it allows a possible negative situation to continue, without confrontation.

Though tuning out certain people probably isn't such a bad idea... I think my husband does this to me frequently :)
 
Ellebelle

The answer to your questions...find a good trauma counsellor/ therapist and start to address your concerns...the cause of your dissasociation/ ADD.

You can ask your doctor. Normally doctor's wouldn't care I think, but maybe I am wrong. My doctor says the diagnosis doesn't matter really as long as the symptoms are being treated, but I don't know how it is with ADD.

I asked my doctor whether I needed to be diagnosed for PTSD and was told the same as above...diagniosis will get me nowhere, just need to get treatment. I was kind of grateful for that. Nothing worse than another set of people who have intrusive questions, and of course the consequences of that...the flashbacks etc.

Use the forum to learn, get advice and support and start healing.

You appear to have started your journey to some place happy again. I wish you well.
 
I have the same exact problem you have, ellebelle. I tune out just like you described, but I'm never really "gone" so to speak. I consider it more like an inability to process what's being said due to distractions of usually unknown origins, ha ha ha! I never considered it could be dissociation, but last night my therapist asked me if I lose time... so perhaps it is. I am recovering memories that I never knew I had, which is probably because of dissociation.

My psychologist thinks I could have adult adhd- which pretty much puts us both in the same spot! I can't help you with a definitive response one way or the other- but I can say you are NOT alone dealing with this issue!
 
I have the same exact problem you have, ellebelle. I tune out just like you described, but I'm never really "gone" so to speak. I consider it more like an inability to process what's being said due to distractions of usually unknown origins, ha ha ha!

Exactly! We do sound incredibly similar! (..I'm sorry for that? lol) But yes, I don't really lose time that frequently, just tune out high-stress situations and go into shutdown auto mode..

Like just now, my husband and I got into a little back-and-forth (we're both very non-confrontational) and I gathered the courage to speak my peace but immediately got so upset that I teared up, and then almost immediately went into freeze mode. I just checked out. Even sitting here typing this I'm just sad but completely detached, and it seems I can't keep myself from doing so as soon as I get upset. It's frustrating because I know it probably comes off as I either am pissed, don't care, or am just ignoring the situation, but I honestly just can't handle the fight... So frustrating.

I think I'll go escape to the garden, lol..
 
From what I can gather there are many diagnoses that overlap. Dissociation seems to present in many conditions. But the conditions are differentiated by the other symptoms related to diagnostic criteria.
 
Holy cow ellebelle, you sound just like me is right! It feels better to know I'm not alone with my behaviors! Ha!! I do the same thing when I get into a tiff, or even at work when my boss is trying to tell me something important or stressful... I just "flitter off" with my thoughts and can't reground myself completely no matter how hard I try!
 
I am having these exact same problems. I actually started a thread about it in the wrong section, oops.

Tomorrow I meet with my primary care doc about it. I have been having a hard time for such a long time that whenever I met with him I would just shut down and not even tell him the problems or symptoms. I'm going to ask about ADD, too.

Finally I typed every thing down and printed it out. I hope it goes well.

I will post here the results, so maybe it can help others. That's if I don't forget, which seems to be another part of all this. :(
 
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