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[Fadeaway]

You can not get PTSD as the result of drugs. That is very specifically ruled out. You can get other mental health disorders though.

I get some pretty warped and twisted nightmares that have nothing to do with my trauma. Nothing to do with psychosis, they are just warped and twisted dreams. They are very different from my trauma nightmares as the are influenced by current things like something I saw on t.v. or read in a book.

I think you need to avoid end of the wold stuff. it is fueling your nightmares.

 

[Sideways]

I have apocalyptic nightmares. Pretty regularly. In my dream world, the world has ended in a tonne of different and very messed up ways.

The extent to which I read into that? My brain is blowing off steam while I'm asleep.

 

[joeylittle]

@sonicwhite - do I remember correctly, that you were once diagnosed with schizophrenia, but then it was changed to PTSD?

 

[sonicwhite]

No I have MDD w psychotic features plus PTSD

 

[sonicwhite]

The XTC maybe not to blame but what happened to me. The neglect. the possible rape. The thoughts that I was going to get chopped up where very real. So maybe I do have PTSD. Don't discount Fadeaway just because I had a very terrible time on XTC which is ironically on trial for PTSD PATIENTS. The thought of doing that stuff again just makes me anxious.

 

[Fadeaway]

It isn't my opinion, it is the official criteria. It isn't for me to discount, I am just repeating what the experts have decided.

 

[joeylittle]

No I have MDD w psychotic features plus PTSD

How do your psychotic features present?

I'm asking because I think it's common for people with chronic psychosis to have difficult dreams. I'd need to dig up where I read that.

The way MDMA is being researched as a treatment adjunct for PTSD is an entirely different way to use it. It's not just something you take, it's there to help process traumatic memory more effectively. So I don't think you can compare that to your XTC event.

 

[sonicwhite]

@joeylittle Yes ppl with psychosis also have difficult dreams but this is from a perspective of ppl on the SZ forum. Not DSM 5 notes. I'm just trying to stress to ya'll that my friend said that it was like the light's where on but, no one was home. This was after al that I had been through. Getting possibly raped. greatly beat up. Just the theme's of my dreams focus on what happened to me in -5 so I'm not taking no you don't have it for an answer. A doc has already said I do. Actually two have.

I fear in the fitire I'm not going to be able to talk about this anymore cuz ppl don't believe me. I'm sorry but a lot of bad things happened after I took the xtc and I'm talking months after not hours.

 

[Fadeaway]

@sonicwhite I don't think I have been clear. I am not saying you don't have PTSD. What I am saying is the abuse from your father, physical assault, and fearing for your life is what caused your PTSD not the drugs, the drugs possibly created their own host of long term problems separate from the PTSD. Or, there could be something else going on, on top of the PTSD, as you mention MDD.

I completely believe you that the XTC caused long term issues, I am just saying that the PTSD came from other events. You very well could have had PTSD before you started taking drugs as a way of self medicating the PTSD.

 

[joeylittle]

Exactly, @Fadeaway.