Yet Again US A10s Attack Brit Soldiers

[wildcritter44]

Rules of War

Rule #1 in War is good men (& women) die, Rule #2 is no one can change rule #1 (during times of war).

Now -- who do we blame... Why do blame.... War is HELL.... NO one said it's fun and bring a picnic........

Why do we have to keep at this ....More training, less war, etc etc...

Let's face some facts here: People make mistakes, No one is perfect..

God or whomever doesn't seem to be willing to change this... So why do we think we can? :dontknow:

I can't change the worlds thinking, no one (person) can, these people in some of these countries have NEVER KNOWN PEACE _-- THEY WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS IF IT JUMPED UP AND BIT THEM ON THE BUTT !! Nor would they know what to do with themselves if peace fell up on them.... NOW What??????:wall:


More people die everyday around the world in traffic accidents that we have lost in this war compared to many other wars! So what are we going to do about all these dam cars killing people (oh! yea, it's the people driving the cars that are killing other people !! DUH ) So what are we doing about those people making all those mistakes, etc?????????????????????????????

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[anthony]

Well, me personally, I am not doing anything about dickhead drivers as that is against the law here to take matters into your own hands, however; I definately do report dickheads on the road, because if they are being twits and the police get enough reports about the, then they can take action without actually witnessing them doing these acts. Enough strangers can't be wrong if they are all saying the same things. Do i always do it? No, because I don't always have my phone with me.

What I do though, is that I drive responsibly, and not like an idiot, so I do my bit to help avoid the problem, instead of just ignore it.

War, far different thing. Mistakes should not be readily made in war. Why is it any person believes it is acceptable to take innocent lives in war when you wouldn't expect it in your suburb. Hell, why not just make it ok for police to fire automatic weapons to chase down a victim, regardless who else they hit in the process? If its acceptable in war, it must be acceptable in peace time with criminals?

Its not bloody acceptable to be stupid in war, nor is it acceptable for the amount of friendly fire the US seem to have. If thats the attitude, no wonder so many get killed, because their all too busy wanting to pull a damn trigger before they even identify what they are shooting at. Cowboys is the word for that!

 

[wildcritter44]

Bash the U S Anthony

Anthony,

Sorry to see u feel like it is ok to the bash the US/just remember it won't change what happens no matter how many times you bash it. It is what/how it is. YOU can't change it. DEAL WITH IT !!!!

D Wildcritter

 

[ranger2_75]

My final reply

It seems to me that when I came to this forum it was said that there would be no racialy motivated or hostile threads twards any race or nation. That is why this will be my final post on this forum. It has become aparent that that is the rule, with the minore exception of the U.S. and it's millitary. There for I say to Kng Anthony and his court of jestors **** YOU!!!!!:up-yours: :up-yours: :up-yours:

 

[paul]

i think that is a bit harsh, i dont see it as bashing as you call it and i dont think it is a race thing either just simply pointing out who has the most accidents in a war type situation.
look how big the us forces are they are naturally going to have more incidents than say aussie troops just on numbers and trying to control them.
and as for not posting again i think thats a bit silly i have one of my best mates who is a signaller and he still talks to me after i call him a p.o.g.o and he suffers from ptsd aswell.

 

[mac]

"So what are we doing about those people making all those mistakes, etc?????????????????????????????"
-Generally alcohol and drugs are involved! Usually most get their asses sued off, or go to jail sometimes for manslaughter!!!!!!!

"Rules of War"... I can understand that, AS LONG AS WE ARE AT WAR FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS!!!!

The invasion of Iraq; makes me wonder if alcohol and drug use was somehow involved with that decision?! No, it was greed, revenge, ignorance and selfishness.

For those of you that voted him back into office... :up-yours: :moon:

Iraq and the Law of War
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BOY20051221&articleId=1588

 

[mac]

Whoa... I just saw the follow-up posts from WC44 and Ranger 2-75. Well Ranger, I don't get caught up in all that bullshit about how the US does everything so perfectly, AND I DON'T BLINDLY FOLLOW, EITHER, ANYMORE. We make mistakes, just like any other military, and so I accept ill criticism from others when warranted. And Paul, you made some good points as well, IMO. Friendly-fire makes me sick though, so I have little tolerance of this type of mistake! And ranger, your out of line to take a crack at Anthony like that...:boxing: :naughty: :stupid: ... and me, considering I believe it was some of your 'brothers' who shot and killed poor Pat Tillman, so...:up-yours:

If y'all don't want to post here no more over this sht, then so be it.... the IXI botton is located top-right corner of screen. Good bye :claps:

 

[mac]

:angry-fla :angry-fla :angry-fla

Seems like The #1 Rule of War is now in affect; some good and bad people may not be coming back with us after this fight. At least it's acceptable loss though... to hell with them!:jerk:

 

[anthony]

I must say, its interesting to see who can, and who can't actively engage within political discussion without losing their tempers! You can take a crack at Australia all you want, providing what you say has substance, as does the topic of this conversation. Thing said here are topical points in the world, and if you can't discuss topical points openly, without anger, there are more issues than meet the eyes here IMO.

Lets see... we own the Port Arthur masacre, you can bag Australia for that all you want, because it happened, just like all the friendly fire that American troops cause in war. These are facts, and facts should be discussed, and if you can't discuss facts, then what good is discussion in the first place?

 

[YoungAndAngry]

Wow, I was staying away from this thread because I very clueless when it comes to Politics. Heck, I almost failed Social Studies class!! lol

Anyways, my response has nothing to do with Politics, I just wanted to express my disapointment that a controversial thread like this could do so much damage.

When I'm talking about 'damage', I mean many members (hopefully all of them) are here to heal and learn about PTSD. If a thread like this 'causes them to leave this support system... that's really unfortunate.

 

[anthony]

I should also clarify my statement about "cowboys", for example; the Kurd police attack (friendly fire), was under control by the US soldiers on the ground, then "the cowboy" in his gunship decided to put some rockets into the building, just because he likely has a little chubby and needed to relieve it by being "a cowboy". The troops on the ground if left would have called it back that the building was run by kurd police, but the cowboy in the gunship had other issues going on, and wanted to increase his chubby by firing some rockets into a building of which he knew little about.

The cowboys in most military are predominantly residing at command level, those who make decisions based on little intel, half arsed information, and send innocent troops into fight battles that they should not be fighting. Does America wonder why they keep getting their arse kicked in conflicts? I can tell you... because the cowboys rile things up constantly, instead of defending, they attack, attack, attack, and that is where the casualties are... and what do they attack? Some actual enemy, some civilians, some friendly fire... unacceptable in conflict I believe.

Somewhere along the lines in the management of the US military, life has become expendable... I wonder if it would be that way if the management where on the battlefield with a rifle in hand? Who really gets to make that decision that life is expendable to any cause? As mac said above about whoever put that spanner of a president back in within the US, need to take a good long look at themselves, because you elected a puppet of mass proportion, not a president who makes good decisions. Again as mac said, about the intent of any troops being in Iraq in the first place... hell, the entire world got lied too by the US for its reasons to be their, and I do say the entire world. The spanner elected was even backed into a corner and had to admit it on public television.

Now multiple countries have troops in a country for all the wrong reasons, not the right one's, and you wonder why other countries looking in are critical of the US motives anymore. Ha... Its not the poor soldier who is following orders, its the cowboys in management positions who make stupid decisions to get the poor old soldier killed.

 

[becvan]

Guys, I locked this thread yesterday!

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