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Poll How Long Do Shut Outs Last?

How long did the shut out last? (Choose up to two answers)

  • 1 - 60 minutes

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • 1 - 3 hours

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • 3 - 24 hours

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • 1 - 7 days

    Votes: 6 12.8%
  • 7 - 30 days

    Votes: 7 14.9%
  • 1 - 6 months

    Votes: 8 17.0%
  • More than 6 months

    Votes: 11 23.4%
  • Unable to generalize most common length of shut outs

    Votes: 20 42.6%
  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Total voters
    47
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@MandyLou

But why do you have a RIGHT to know about my (a sufferers) trauma?

IMHO you don't.

I understand relationship dynamics. I don't believe in co-dependent, no boundaries, you can know every thought I have and every feeling I experience (and why) types of relationships.

Every relationship is different and I can't help but feel that you're projecting your relationship expectations on to everyone.
 
You're making it into a you issue when it's likely a him issue.

If he doesn't want to share det...


I've never suggested that he must share details and it is inappropriate to suggest that I have. It is entirely his choice whether, when and how much to share.
The reason to mention details was in response to the many comments that there is fear that a supporter cannot handle the details or that we have no idea what the details may be. I have been clear all along that I support a vet, not an abuse survivor. I have found some if the comments that supporters cannot handle the details to be patronizing. I can handle the details from my vet.

I also have not taken issue or argued with anyone about how they feel. I made an error in not clearly differentiating between disagreeing with someone and using their comments as a starting point. When I realized my error, I acknowledged it and I apologized. Likewise with my WTF bolding. It was unintentional, but I got jumped for that anyway, even after I explained and apologized-
 
The bold type was a mistake due to using a phone, not something deliberate.

This whole thing may have wandered a little off topic, but maybe it's still useful. I've just got to say that it's reinforcing my thoughts that being in a relationship is a bad idea and would be unfair to the other party. (Not that it's very likely anyone's going to come along and think that I'm relationship material.)

There IS a lot of difference between people. As far as sharing goes, there are several sides to that. First, you don't know how much a person can handle until it's too late, some of the time. And, THEY don't know how much they can handle either. Personally? I don't talk about stuff for a lot of reasons. I don't want people feeling sorry for me. I don't want people changing how they think of me because of "history". I don't know how they're going to react. I actually HAVE had people decide they couldn't be a friend any longer because "people who were sexually abused as children grow up to be abusers". And, last but not least, talking about stuff somehow makes it seem "real" and takes me to places I'd rather not go. None of it is information that anyone needs to know. whether they want it or not.

As he was recollecting, his story was very detailed
@glass half full , here's something you may be aware of, you may not. I guess there's a point, down the road, where you have the trauma stuff "processed" and you can talk about it like normal people talk about bad stuff. Before then, it's not as much "remembering" as it is "reliving". My T keeps stressing being aware that something happened "over there, back then", But, if & when I talk about it? I'm "there" and it's "now". It sounds like when your SO told you that story that was probably the way he was experiencing. (No, I don't know that for sure. Educated guess.) The sex after? Sometimes that's kind of a way of trying to wash the taste out of your mouth, so to speak. It can be a distraction. It can be a way to try to grasp on to a bit of a better here and now. It's kind of hard to explain, but I know I've been in similar situations. Not that the feelings behind it weren't also totally real.

I wish I could explain this better, but talking about traumatic memories isn't like talking about normal memories. They aren't experienced the same way. At the same time, I, at least, didn't KNOW that was what the deal was until my T explained it. It's not exactly intuitive. You just feel like "going there" isn't safe.

Don't get this topic locked guys! It's a good topic and I think there's a ton of good will on all sides. It's just pretty personal and hard to keep in perspective.
 
I wish I could explain this better, but talking about traumatic memories isn't like talking about normal memories. They aren't experienced the same way. At the same time, I, at least, didn't KNOW that was what the deal was until my T explained it. It's not exactly intuitive. You just feel like "going there" isn't safe.

It can retraumatize you. Been there done that.
 
@scout86 got the term from my therapist when i wet the bed. Basically, you can go through remembering so many details that you loose the here and now and go back there again and it can have devistating results like being traumatized all over again and cause you to do something like wet the bed.

ETA: It doesnt happen to all, nothing happens to all but recounting details can have a backspin like results.
 
Maybe but 2 question: Does he know that and can he handle telling you without retrauma...


He has shared his detailed journals with me and we were able to use them as a starting point for talking about how we would deal with his need to talk in our relationship- our agreement was that he could tell me whatever he wanted or needed to, when he needed to and in no chronological order. He gave me permission to ask any clarifying questions I had.

I told him that I had been involved with an SF vet who had told me things that usually are not said. He did not ask for details, but said that made him feel better about being able to tell me. Not only would I not judge or flinch, I knew much of the vernacular, he wouldn't have to translate Army- speak.
 
Not only would I not judge or flinch, I knew much of the vernacular, he wouldn't have to translate Army- speak.

I get what you are saying about you, i do. Im challeging you to see it through his eyes. He may not be able to handle it. He may have retraumatized himself already which lead to isolation. He could be full of shame. We dont know, only he knows but try to see it through his eyes and the reasons come off of "he did it to avoid pain for him" and more onto him doing it to spare you...or because he's back there again and cant deal. And i totally get that. Still not about him, avoiding, not trying hard enough.

Trauma is dirty shit. It sucks but it is and its not all about what you can handle. Thats part of it but not all it.
 
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