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The "f" Word Will Help You Heal!!

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Now that I have your attention, My "F" word has 11 letters. It is the word forgiveness. In my humble opinion, it is absolutely paramount in our being able to move forward and starting to enjoy life as best we can. If we are able to forgive, then we can over time dispose of the hideous anger that far too often keeps us in a state of anger and rage. Most of us here have every reason to be filled with anger and rage. But if we hold onto the anger and rage, then our perpetrators will win. We can not let them win. That was their intent in the first place, to hurt us and drag us down in the muck where they live. You see, misery loves company. They can not have my soul. My soul is not for rent or sale. I am better than they are, and so are you. Evil dwells in cold, dark places. I, for one, am not going to keep evil company. Let evil dwell in the isolation and degradation it so richly deserves. For they chose evil, I did not. Far be it for me to impose my goodness on them. Let evil enjoy it's environment that it chose of it's own free will.

So what is the picture that we have when we think of forgiveness. How about walking up to our perpetrator and giving them a big hug and kiss. We tell them we are sorry for thinking what we thought of them. We bring flowers and offer to take them out to dinner. We take them to dinner at a fancy restaurant for a 4 course meal and adult beverages. We leave dinner and take them out to a play at the local theater. We take them home and go in for some more cocktails and wonderful conversation. Now I know this is pretty close to what most people think of when they think about forgiveness. Not CRC!!!!

THREAD DISCLAIMER!!!......Before I go any further, I will make mention to my faith and spiritual beliefs. These beliefs are mine and they are not for sale. I am not selling them or attempting to persuade anyone to see things my way.

I know one thing that is inarguable. I have absolutely no power or control over what another human being does. We have the gift of free will. This may not apply to many communist and third world countries, but it does in the U.S.A. So I believe that I have absolutely no control over what someone repents or turns away from. I have absolutely no control over how someone seeks forgiveness or doesn't for their transgressions. I only have control over what I do and how I forgive.

So my version of forgiveness is simple. I gather up all of the filth and degradation that the perpetrator in question laid on me and made me carry around from the time they laid the filth on me to the present. I take my time with my Psychiatrist and therapist gathering and processing all of the filth that this individual or individuals hung around my neck to carry around every day in mortal pain. And when I have it all processed and gathered up, I meet with the perpetrator. I greet the perpetrator, and tell them, " Here is all of the filth and crud that you laid on me to carry around every day of my life. I am tired of carrying around what is rightfully yours. So here are the two 50 LB bags, one on each side of your neck, that belong to you. I hope you enjoy carrying around all of this crud as much as I did."

What was in the bags was all of the anger that I have been carrying around from the time the perpetrator laid it on me. Once I put it around the neck of the perpetrator, I am now free of all of the hideous anger. It crops every now and then when we are triggered. But now, the filthy perps own what is rightfully theirs. It is hard to let go of the anger because we can hide behind it. But it is the only way we will be able to free ourselves of the hideous anger. Give it to it's rightful owner. They made it, they own it. Blessings to all!!!
 
I hear you GF, the most versatile word in the english language comes in handy when I am out there trying to deliver my dead fish amongst all of the idiot drivers....
 
I'll chuck in what I've said elsewhere - forgiveness can work for individuals who believe in it. I personally believe in acceptance, which different insofar as it requires no moral judgement.

People do actions, and their actions have consequences. The consequences can be absolutely devastating to the individual being acted upon. Rape is an action, with a heavy consequence on the person who was raped. Part of what I need to do in order to survive that consequence is to accept that I was raped. Someone else's action led to my being damaged.

I also believe that rape is a crime against humanity and should always be recognized as such.

But I don't need to forgive my rapist.

Reaching acceptance is a hard thing. It doesn't mean the rape was OK. Only that it happened, can't be undone, and is now part of my life story.

But it can be in my history, only. It doesn't have to be in my present, or my future. I can get to a point where I look back on it, and it stays back there.

Replace 'rape' with any other horror, it's all ultimately the same.

I think if forgiveness makes sense to a person, then they should use it, of course. I'm offering acceptance as an alternative viewpoint. One isn't better than the other. They both seem to create the same end goal, which is to let the past stay behind, where it rightfully belongs.
 
Thanks for sharing that, @Geoffry feinberg - I've never heard it explained that way before.

I still would say the opposite - acceptance balances my scales, is maybe more like it. Or weaves in all the loose ends.

I do wonder, sometimes, if it comes down to what one believes about sin, redemption, etc. Im an agnostic, so those things are only conceptual for me. I can observe them in others, but not myself.
 
Forgiving my abuser isn't high on my recovery agenda. He couldn't care less about me, and if I could be the same, not caring about him, that would be a good place for me to be I think.

But forgiving myself? That would be huge. So forgiveness is something that I want to achieve one day, but just in a different way.
 
Thank you @joeylittle! This bothered me a bit and I couldnt figure out what it was and it was forgivness vs acceptness.

I dont have to forgive a damn person to heal. But I must accept what was done was done and learn to move on without it and make it part of my history and story and that is damn hard but what im trying to do. But forgiveness, sorry, they get none of that.

Acceptence makes me think of this true story (though if im way off then correct me). I totaled my dad's car and I called him to tell him early AM still dark out so i had just woken him up to tell him his new car was totaled. He was very calm and drove down and just was very calm about it all throughout the entire thing including seeing his engine almost sitting in the driver's seat. I asked him how in the hell he could stay so calm. He said "its done and i cant change it, I can only figure out what im going to do about it". That sounds much like acceptance to me.

Ive talked about forgiveness on here and in person. I come from a very fundlementalist christian family, its rather always talked about to me and my therapist has weighed in here and there. Ive just never been able to forgive my abusers. And yes, i know its for me not them but still cant. But learning to accept that what happened was wrong, illegal, "horrible" (still struggling with that word), traumatizing etc but its been done. Damage has been done. What am i going to do about it from here? That i can learn to do.

Im not saying forgiveness is wrong. To each their own. Its just not for me.
 
Forgiveness is purgative 4 ur sake...not his...plus the Lord wants it...so we can heal and don't get me wrong...I burn with hatred af times but God has delivered me in ways I fail to explain. I used to be agnostic but the spirit has saved me...I burn from time to time but love and forgiveness heals....take it from a former drug abuser, sex addict and recently recovered man from having a brain tumor....some would say I'm cursed..I have b4....I'm blessed to b alive...God allowed me to hurt so he could build me anew...pain is a wise teacher.
 
Forgiveness is purgative 4 ur sake...not his...plus the Lord wants it.
This is an international PTSD forum, not a religious forum. Please stop shoving your personal belief / faith down other people's throats!
Oh, and by the way, what the OP states, is not forgiveness (at least not in terms of the bible) but rather a payback. One just has to read the original post very, very carefully and observe...
have b4...
Oh, and since this is an international forum, with members from many different countries present.. would it be hard on you, to write full words instead of slang and abbreviations?
 
@TreeHugger - people are allowed to express their beliefs here; I don't see any 'shoving' of a point of view, only expressing.

Your opinion, as expressed, is valid also.

Reminder to all - the ignore function is there to help you, if/when you want it.
 
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