I Am Always f*cking Angry And I Give Up

[Ekaru]

have known people who are completely zombied out on it and told they are schizo effective or bipolar when its obviously a false diagnosis.
That has to go on the file for the ability to prescribe it, as well as make it affordable for them.

Nope, nope, nope. Just, not true. The antipsychotics are prescribed to people with mode disorders, bipolar, the schizophrenic spectrum, anxiety disorders...the entire class is open to pretty much all mental illness. Same is true of mood stabilizers.

I'm talking about in the US. I can't speak for other countries.

 

[Owoju]

Nope, nope, nope. Just, not true. The antipsychotics are prescribed to people with mode disorders, bipolar, the schizo...

I'm in the US. I'm not disqualifying any disorder you've mentioned from appropriately being prescribed drugs in that category. They have valid uses that are off their original patent label. What I was referring to, but was wanting to avoid saying, is the tendency for the state welfare system to misuse it and over prescribe that particular class of drugs. Usually it is because the state and county resources for qualified therapists are limited, more often than not, these drugs are prescribed after a hospitalization because counseling and psychiatric therapy appointment resources are harder to fund long term. The state does not pay the the pharma companies
what everyone else does.

I'm pretty sure this has left the original thread purpose, it looked like you were saying I thought that it was inappropriate to prescribe for anything other than severe psychiatric disorders. That is not what I was saying. I was saying that I can see why some people have a grudge against, it because it has been misused in the system at times.

 

[Cezeca]

Seriquel XR specifcally, since Im on it, has a slight deadening effect for intense emotions. Therefore my blind rage explosions has decreased greatly and though i still feel more intense anger then most, it doesnt go into full on explosion thus i have a chance now to catch it. It gives me a chance to have an argument without going into a whole other level.

It does NOT take away emotions and being an extended release, i am also not "zombie-fied". I am currently on 200mg Seriquel XR which is still rather low than what one would need to take in psycosis.

But the reason I even mentioned it is that it can help bring down how intense the OP feels rage. It has for me.

 

[Afi]

Seriquel XR specifcally, since Im on it, has a slight deadening effect for intense emotions. Therefore my blind rage e...

I actually recommended the OP take something for the very reason you have just explained that you are taking it. You couldnt tell that because we get a new caveman name for each post.

I think the zombie effect I mentioned offended you, but you didnt take into consideration that I put it in the context of being over prescribed ( too high a dose ) mixed with multiple medications ( the throw everything at them and see what sticks since its free method ) and when you are not experiencing extreme emotion, anxiety, delusions or sleep disorders and you get a high dose of something like Risperdal or Seraquel, you are zombied. Its a chemical lobotomy to keep unstable people on welfare from ending up in the ward at the states expense.

I've taken anti psychotics myself, there's nothing wrong with it in the right dose for the right reason. It sounded to me like this OP needed it for his rage.

 

[Wacaga]

it looked like you were saying I thought that it was inappropriate to prescribe for anything other than severe psychiatric disorders.

No, I'm saying that diagnoses aren't falsified in order to allow these drugs to be prescribed. That's what you claimed, and that isn't necessary, nor true. That's all.

 

[Modum]

No, I'm saying that diagnoses aren't falsified in order to allow these drugs to be prescribed. That's what you claimed...

OMG. The off label use gives a wide umbrella under which they can be prescribed. Inappropriately mixing or arranging dosages in ways that are not taking into careful consideration of the individual are an unfortunate and common occurrence in state provided medical care. Its not that uncommon in private care with lazy or pharma incentive motivated docs, either.

That is not the same thing as falsely diagnosing a patient or client. If you dont believe me, then I'd love to direct you to where it is openly discussed common knowledge in the medical community, but I cant.

I didnt claim falsely diagnosing doctors, more accurately falsely exaggerating doctors. Here is an example, a situational panic attack sufferer checks herself into psych ward and is suicidal from losing her job. The doc asks about history and she mentions anxiety and depression in various situations in high school, husband cheating etc.

A choice there can be made for history of situational dysphoria / anxiety and prozac / xanax with therapy for example....or it can go down as a history of depression and generalized anxiety disorder and klonopin, provigil, seroquel, lithium and topomax...with follow up state employed docs.

Both diagnosis are technically accurate, all the meds involved are in the category of being appropriately described. One doctor may judge another's take on either approach.

 

[Bofica]

OMG. The off label use gives a wide umbrella under which they can be prescribed. Inappropriately mixing or arranging do...

Dammit. This is Modum here, I was unnecessarily snappy in that last post. I wasn't taking into consideration that my posts about sometimes wanton prescribing can seem scary or hard to believe if you're not used to the entire concept of it.

Really there are no situations that are that bad, as long as people know to get multiple opinions and engage in research before committing to any prescription plan that is meant to go on for the long term. Any serious diagnosis should be cross referenced also. If someone diagnosed you with kidney disease when you thought it was just an infection, you'd get another opinion or do some research.

If someone tells you that you need a major psychiatric drug and is suggesting you have an organic and not situational need for serious psychiatric meds, one would hope you'd do the same.

Its certainly not my intention to freak anyone out or encourage paranoia about doctors motives.

 

[Ufivu]

I think the zombie effect I mentioned offended you

You didnt offend me. I was simply trying to put the thread back into context (which is why i didnt reply to any one post as it wasnt directed at any one post) and "anti psycotic" to many equates "zombie-fied" so i was advising thats not the case.

Fact: OP has extreme rage; Fact: A drug such as seriquel xr (and many others) can help extreme emotions like extreme rage.

 

[Lugu]

Oops. I have to own another boo boo. I did actually use the words falsely diagnosed without elaborating. My bad again. Sorry.

 

[Uze]

I know that I am and I frankly don't give a shit anymore. Trying is just going to piss me off even further.[/Q...

What I did to rid myself of anger was go no contact.....then I visualized doing numerous hidious things to my abuser. I mean hidious...really really hidious. I didn't want to hit something or break things because I didn't want to condition myself in this manner for any future anger. Visualization was effective and harmless for me.

 

[Aweb]

Dealing With Anger

The Iceberg Of Emotions

Managing Anger Better


I hope these help you in some way even though you say "f*ck it" basically. Don't give up, man. You just have to find what works for YOU not what works for others. I hope you find some ways to better deal with your anger and you find what works best for you.

 

[Weva]

Aweb here again. I forgot to mention how much these articles have helped me in the past and still do when I get back to that mind frame. They are bookmarked for me here for good reason. I have, when under extreme stress, been so angry that I blackout and have no memory of what occurs during those times. These articles helped me understand my anger and how to defuse myself. Also, how to find WHY I am angry and at who specifically.