Suicide Attempt For Help

[sedna]

Well, I know that no ones going to be happy Im telling you this, but I think if you have a friend that you can trust the safe way to do that would be to have them call an ambulance and say that they caught you attempting it and when the EMTs get there have them insist that you'll just keep trying and you dont have anyone to monitor you so you'll succeed soon.
Thats when you go on about havig nothig to live for because of your nightmares and ptsd.
they have to take you by law for 48 hours once youre in , keep looking depressed until youve gotten what you need so they keep you in.
Dont ingest anything , tie a rope around your neck, and kick over a chair next to suicide notes.

Before anyone sends me hate replies or bans me-- let me at least say this....
I've seen this done and truly believe that its a case of. " the end justifies the means"
It does go in your records and those are protected by law, but not from doctors. In the future you'll want to just minimize it with your doctor as a drama filled bad day so he isnt misinformed about your mental health.

Im braced for the hate now :stop:

 

[Gs172003]

Please give me your ideas

Here's the run-down:

Moved to city 4 months ago for better PTSD and dissociat...

No. Just. No. Go elsewhere if you can't get help there.

Are you in the USA?

 

[PointlessExistence]

I'm not per se against coco9's methodology. It's just that it's not necessary to go to that extreme. Just showing up at the hospital or at a police precinct saying that you are going to hurt yourself, will no doubt do the trick. But like others have said, it's just going to get you hospitalized for a short time, unless you continue to tell them you want to hurt yourself. But then there are also the questions about how you'll pay for a hospital stay. I assume you're covered, but will you have to pay for some of it? Also, have you been hospitalized before? For some people it's great; others hate it. Being confined isn't much fun, especially if they lock you in a little room or sedate you.

 

[Gs172003]

I think it's awful you even have to consider that to get help. Ugh ugh ugh. I'm so angry!!

 

[Suzetig]

I'm not going to hate on you but I don't agree - emergency medics are trained to know what a meaningful attempt looks like so you'd need to be good to get them to buy it, and good means dangerous. Crisis intervention is just that, literally to keep you alive and doesn't result in longer term planned treatment once past crisis.

Better to use the short term therapy offered to support you while something longer term is found (it's also not that unusual here for short term support to be extended as a holding measure) so once you're in with someone you might find accessing continued care easier. But lying about an attempt, mocking it up etc could earn you a reputation for attention seeking - which won't go well. It can lead to you not getting urgent treatment when you actually do need to because they think you're working the system.

All in my humble opinion, of course, but there are other, more effective ways to get what you need.

 

[sedna]

Okay, common sense says that your reply and all the others make more sense.

But .....I did this myself actually, there is zero danger in it and it comes from the system that endangers you by making it that impossible to get help.

In my case it turned out to be very helpful, and as my luck usually goes, totally unnecessary because I had just moved to an area where the hospital didnt have that policy but I didnt know that.
I made an ass out of myself for no reason and ended up telling the doctors, who thought it was hilarious.
I was wandering around the yard with a pepsi and dragging the rope dangling from my neck until I heard sirens.

My point is that its never okay to actually take a risk or hurt yourself, but I was in danger by not getting help that was sufficient because of red tape, sometimes you need to be creative.

 

[Gs172003]

You walk into the danged hospital, you tell them that you are in crises. There are some ( don't know all but some) that at LEAST have a long term outpatient intensive care plan even if they can't bed you. The one near me is six weeks. Just a thought.

 

[joeylittle]

In my case it turned out to be very helpful, and as my luck usually goes, totally unnecessary because I had just moved to an area where the hospital didnt have that policy but I didnt know that.
I made an ass out of myself for no reason and ended up telling the doctors, who thought it was hilarious.
I was wandering around the yard with a pepsi and dragging the rope dangling from my neck until I heard sirens.

You got lucky.

You're the exception, not the rule.

Please also keep in mind that the poster is not in the US. Different country, different protocols, different outcomes.

.I did this myself actually, there is zero danger in it

No, there's real danger in it.

• If a poster attempted this, and was then rejected at the hospital, instead of taken in as you were - that's going to deepen their depression and desperation.
• If someone tried this and were not accepted by the EMTs, they might escalate.
• If someone tried this in a crowded urban area, they might go into a very difficult locked ward and be drugged heavily. That might happen specifically because it was a false attempt. Or it might happen because it was too convincing.

Look, I am not going to shut down your alternative viewpoint. But I'm not going to hesitate to tell you your recommendation is utter bullshit.

It's also a false equivalency. You discovered that it was unnecessary - in other words, the red tape wasn't keeping you from actually getting help, you only thought that it was. Correct?

 

[Deleted member 541]

I honestly don't give a rats ass as to what country someone is from, trying to get help by attempting or faking a suicide attempt is plain stupidity. I don't care if this person has to beat down doors, camp out in the hospital lobby, or turn themselves into the nearest clinic and say that they FEEL suicidal, but attempting or faking it is just utter bullshit.

 

[pixel]

Thanks @missy meier
Im in Austrailia, have no idea what the protocols are here.
hospital is the last resort.

i have SO MUCH to live for, that's why i want help!
i dont want to die. i also don't want to live with a permanent disability.

you have all helped me come up with feasible alternatives, i have a plan to move forward and past this.
:tup:

 

[Justmehere]

Yay @pixel! Im half you found an alternative. I hope they see your need and are able to find some resources and providers to support you and that you find some relief soon. :hug:

 

[Gs172003]

Thanks @missy meier
Im in Austrailia, have no idea what the protocols are here.
hosp...

(((Hugs))) I hope you'll accept them....


GOOD!!