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[Gs172003]

@Allie D. That would probably fall under an attachment disorder, although possibly a...

Lord. ADHD. I hated the pills they would give kids. I wouldn't even let mine be tested for it cause EVERYBODY had it

 

[Gs172003]

@Allie D. That would probably fall under an attachment disorder, although possibly a...

Well...you also have to fit so many of each criteria too. Surely it's not the same for every disorder? ( I dunno I'm just guessing lol)

 

[Gs172003]

Hi zoogal ,

This is my husband's goto site when he is having a trigger of such, 17 yrs living wi...

Which site?

 

[Friday]

Lord. ADHD. I hated the pills they would give kids. I wouldn't even let mine be tested for it cause EVER...

Yup. That's part of what happens when a disorder gets all pop-culture. People who don't have it "have" it (and are cured! by blah blah blah bullshit; if you "cured" your ADHD with nutrition? You were malnourished. Parenting classes? Badly raised. Sleep? Sleep deprivation. Snake Shoes? Well, every village needs at least one lunatic. Cheers!)... And people who do have it don't get the help they need, because they don't even bother to get tested for it, as what they're dealing with (the actual disorder!!!) ? Is worlds away from what "everyone" has, and besides they've tried half the mumbo-jumbo "everyone" swears by, and it doesn't work, like it works for "everyone", so why bother? :wtf:

 

[Gs172003]

Yup. That's part of what happens when a disorder gets all pop-culture. People who don't have it "have" i...

My brother has ADHD. Bad. Real bad. He was 13 before he was diagnosed and the doc that did it actually apologized to my mom. He's now 37 and still has to take meds. I know it when I see it. Half these kids I think being "diagnosed" are just out of control and nobody wanted to deal with them. Easier to drug them than discipline them.

 

[EmmaOwl]

Look people. I was reaching. Calm down.

 

[EmmaOwl]

Look people. I was reaching. Calm down.

Besides, PTSD is not the thing of the moment - that honor goes to "the spectrum".

 

[Friday]

Look people. I was reaching.

It was a good question IMO.

Mental health diagnosis is a clusterf*ck. Psychology (& neurology both) is a baaaaaby science. We're still at the part of "Is it an animal-vegetable-mineral???" that biology was at a couple hundred years ago. Attempting to group like things to like. Without microscopes or any definitive tests for most of it. So there's an awful lot of "3 blind men & the elephant" in trying to do so. What IS this??? How do we define it? How do we treat it? What causes it?

Add in Pop-psychology :wtf: DR.Google :facepalm: & that we're really not used to there being no definitive answers (yet!) -because we've mapped the globe/ split the atom/ spend 12 (24) years in school studying advanced degrees in all kinds of sciences where there are shoulders of giants to stand on? :notworthy: With definitive answers in 10,000 books- Makes for a lot of confusion.

Keep questioning :tup:

 

[Gs172003]

Besides, PTSD is not the thing of the moment - that honor goes to "the spectrum".

Around here it's VERY hard to get diagnosed with. Apparently bipolar and psychosis are the " things" here insurance like

 

[Gs172003]

It was a good question IMO.

Mental health diagnosis is a clusterf*ck. Psychology (& neurology both) is...

The article you to posted has good points but you have to take some things with a grain of salt. Just because somebody has a degree doesn't make them right.

His comment about porn addiction seriously pissed me off. Easy for him to say when he didn't live with it. My guess is? He is one. Either way there's this guy

Post-traumatic stress doesnt exist says psychiatrist | Daily Mail Online

A doctor?? Really??

 

[Friday]

For porn addiction to cross the line into causing PTSD it would have to cross the line into sexual abuse / sexual assault. Does that happen? Sure. The same way any addiction can cross the line into involving CritA trauma. Does Gambling addiction cause PTSD? Nope. Does that mean losing your home, savings, children's educations, and never being able to trust your spouse is some awesome experience? Of course not. Does that mean when your wife's debt weren't paid, so your house was broken into, and your daughter raped in front of you, while you had a knife to your throat & gun to your wife's head, as a warning... that you can't have PTSD, because it was resultant "from" a gambling debt? Of course not. But the PTSD isn't from the gambling addiction. It's from the assault & sexual assault of your child.

PTSD isn't a pain-scale. Addiction? Is it's own thing. With it's own unique set of problems, it's own symptoms, it's own treatment plan, & it's own prognosis. Bereavement? Is it's own thing. Even though it involves death, it has a very different constellation of symptoms, treatment plan, & prognosis. Betrayal? Ditto. Attachment disorders? Ditto. Delusional disorders? Ditto. Anxiety disorders? Ditto. Spectrum Disorders? Ditto. Eating Disorders? Ditto. And on down the list of things that suck in life, surrounding things that aren't life threatening trauma. It's not like "It's not CritA trauma, so it's not painful." It is very much "If it's not CritA trauma, it's not PTSD, but something else... As PTSD is only & very specifically A-H."

I didn't post the article because it's the definitive source of what PTSD is. That's the DSM & ICD. I posted the article because it talked about how people trying to use PTSD as some sort of 'validation of pain' doesn't work. It's not a merit badge. It's a very specific disorder.

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One thing that can be very difficult once one already HAS PTSD? Evaluating trauma/how other people are affected.

As an example; Does staying in a cheap hotel qualify as trauma "bad enough" for PTSD? Nope. But there was a person I knew who was insistent that it was. $50 said raped in a cheap hotel sometime in their trauma history (& $25 on some other trauma involving cheap hotels)... And YEP! There it was. Abused as a child in cheap hotels, and raped as an adult in a cheap hotel. AKA The cheap hotel was a stressor/trigger for them. Most people? No matter how "yucky" the cheap hotel is just a cheap hotel. It would have to burn down -or similar- to be the cause of someone's PTSD. Filthy mattresses, bugs, people having angry sex next door, no plumbing, etc. are all "just" gross. Until you add in things like building fires, rape, etc. Doesn't mean that "gross" isn't enough to drive someone with an anxiety disorder to suicide, or an OCD person into being hospitalized, or a PTSD person into being triggered as fawk. But all on it's own? It's just a cheap hotel. Won't give anyone anything except scabies.

 

[Ronin]

A doctor?? Really??

IMHO moving past the journalist balast around it, the actual quotes from that doctor were pretty reasonable.

He wasn't saying PTSD as a disorder doesn't exist. He acknowledged it does.

What he was saying there are cultural constructs around the diagnosis that are problematic, and specifically problematic within the US context.

Making a comment on culture & making a comment on the way something is labeled is far from not understanding & dismissing a whole condition. In fact it implies you need to understand both the condition /and/ the culture around it /and/ the terminology used both in professional & non-pro circles to make that commentary.