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Diet And Ptsd Symptoms

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Deadman

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I was wondering if anyone here has had any success (or failures) with using diet to mitigate PTSD symptoms?

I ask because I started a Ketogenic diet a while back to lose weight but I've since read that the diet reduces depressive symptoms in some conditions. It is also still used to treat some seizure disorders.

For the life of me I can't remember if I started the diet before or after I started the diet.

Anyway, has anyone else experimented with diet to mitigate their symptoms?
 
My digestive system is so screwed that I need to drink my food. Smoothies or juicing is what it takes for me. I keep away from the starches (too much high/low) and do my best to eat clean food. Drinking water for some reason is a real challenge for me.
 
I was wondering if anyone here has had any success (or failures) with using diet to mitigate PTSD sympt...

I've read a lot about ketogenic diets too. I think it can be beneficial for many people but I am leery of it because I may have adrenal and thyroid issues due to the chronic stress of dealing with PTSD.

If you are going to do a radical diet like that, I would recommend being supervised by a health professional. Keto radically changes how you get energy and I'm not sure how that is for someone whose body is already severely stressed from PTSD.

I do think diet can help with PTSD symptoms. I notice an immediate calming affect when I make this powdered drink that is a magnesium supplement called Natural Calm. I also think we need to eat a lot of healthy fat because it's so important for the brain. On keto you are not supposed to have a lot of carbs but I would experiment and be very mindful of how you feel when you eat healthy carbs versus when you radically cut the carbs for keto. Also, be careful not to each too much protein which can be harmful in excess. It's really a delicate balance.

Right now I'm seeing an integrative medicine doctor and have to get blood work. I think I'm on a good path there.

Another thing you might want to try diet wise is to see if you have food intolerances. Food intolerances can put extra stress on your body. You can see if you have food intolerances by trying an elimination diet. You eliminate a certain food for a month and then reintroduce it and see how you feel. It's good to keep a food journal to document everything you eat, as well as your mood, and your digestive status. The big things that people tend to not tolerate are corn, soy, gluten, eggs, dairy.
 
My psychiatrist does know I'm on the diet and has no objection as long as I don't feel worse. My doctor is not so keen but since she saw the improvement in my blood work she has decided to keep quiet about it.

I do know that I don't tolerate too many carbs. I'm definitely one of those people who gets stuck on the carb rollercoaster.
 
My psychiatrist does know I'm on the diet and has no objection as long as I don't feel worse. My doctor...

I wouldn't count on a psychiatrist for nutritional supervision.

If you have a traditional doctor, she probably has no clue about keto, but a functional medicine or integrative doctor would.

The good blood work is a great sign!
 
I'm refined sugar free, have been for a while now. I started for my mental health and it has made a huge impact. It's really helped with dissociative symptoms and anxiety too. I even think it's helpful for depression and is a huge self care exercise. Not just that but I've lost weight and feeling physically healthy.

Because everything in the god damn world it seems has sugar in it I make pretty much everything from scratch. Eating a lot more fresh fruit and vegetables. I make batches of things and freeze them for when I'm not up to cooking. I don't feel deprived if I want something sweet I'll make it with honey or dates. There's lots of recipes out there but I don't have as much of a craving for sweets anymore and I'm usually satisfied with a banana or something. I try to avoid non complex carbohydrates because they're basically sugar and I want to avoid the blood sugar spike. If I have a smoothie I'll add chia seeds as they level out blood sugar and add fibre.
 
I'm scared to mess with my diet after pulmonary emboli at the age of 30 - an extremely rare complication of birth control pills - so after that, plus 16 months on coumadin (a blood thinner), I was encouraged to continue my regular diet. Which was never particularly healthy nor unhealthy. But I don't feel free to screw around with stuff like this. I suppose I'd want to speak to my doctor about it but it would require some heavy-duty discussion and more in-depth research to make me feel comfortable.

Does anyone else here have dietary limitations, due to illnesses other than PTSD?
 
One of my favorite subjects!!! Please forgive my long-windedness in advance.

I've struggled with my consumption habits for much of my life. I was raised on the Standard American Diet, and both parents worked full-time and then some, so our meals were often frozen or fast except for the weekends. I also had several periods of time in my life when I had no idea where my next meal would come from, so I learned to eat and stash as much as I could every chance I got for fear of not having more later. I remained overweight (eventually becoming morbidly obese as the docs like to refer to it), but each time I had my yearly blood work done, the doc would always say, "Your numbers look good." and there was no more discussion about diet and such, even when the number on the scale passed the 300 mark. Ummmmmm.....that can't be healthy, but the doc never seemed concerned, so neither was I, being the good patient I'd been taught to be.

Instead of addressing any consumption issues, my doc diagnosed me with severe irritable bowel syndrome, severe nervous stomach, severe fibromyalgia, severe osteoarthritis, severe bronchitis, severe adhd, severe anxiety, severe depression, severe insomnia, severe everydamnthing is what it felt like, and happily accepted me as a frequent flyer in her office as I was frequently suffering from painful stomach issues, respiratory issues, pain issues, and eventually many mood/anxiety issues, all the while steadily farming me out to specialists with very little relief, but many more complicated issues resulting, instead.

She was great for helping to get written excuses to be off work when I needed, and helping suppress some symptoms long enough and well enough to get me back to work quickly, but she wasn't helping me actually heal anything to keep it from being a recurring issue. They apparently don't receive much educational time as it relates to nutrition in medical school, from what I understand, so they aren't always the best ones to rely on when it comes to those topics. My doc now asks me for advice during each visit. lol Never thought that would be happening in my world.

I now eat a well planned (most days) whole foods/plant-based vegan diet, paying close attention to mucus forming foods, food combining, and such, and include a few supplements. I've since lost a whole person (110 lbs.), have more energy than I ever thought was possible some days, have much less brain fog, less severe pain, less symptoms in several arenas, no longer require multiple daily naps to survive my own mind, and have been able to slowly give up the many prescriptions I'd been prescribed through the years, along with many over the counter symptom suppressors I'd been used to reaching for automatically. It's the hardest thing I've ever done, thus far, but equally rewarding. All the feelings come up to surface along with the process. There's really no way to escape the endless triggers of all the substances I no longer ingest, either, so it remains quite challenging, be it in real life or online, as if I didn't feel like enough of an alien before making this drastic lifestyle change. Ha!!

I started my learning journey as it relates to food, functioning, and mood by consulting with a local nutritionist, as a result of desperation in trying all the doc (and many specialists) had suggested, who was open to bartering time instead of me having to pay cash since insurance didn't cover it. My first experiment was eliminating gluten for a week. In that short time, I discovered how incredibly rewarding it was to pay closer attention to this food stuff. I no longer had nearly as much of the painful swelling and inflammation, chronic fatigue, moodiness, and thick brain fog that weighed me down so heavily before.

Then I eliminated sodas, teas, coffee, and alcohol, as I learned that my adrenals were tired of being repeatedly crashed on quite a consistent basis by my heavy caffeine intake, on top of the already default flight or fight mode they're stuck in thanks to cptsd, not to mention the sugars and the other foreign toxic substances they shove into those things, and hangovers hurt a hell of a lot more than they used to, so I decided to stop abusing my body with those choices, as many others had already done enough of that for me. I later learned all foods act as stimulants to varying degrees.

Ginger flavored kombucha on tap was the most helpful in helping me shake the beer and soda. I discovered it at a music festival in the middle of a hot humid summer. It can be purchased in the bottle, too, but be prepared for it to make you pucker, as it's quite sour, not the typical sugary shit we've been accustomed to. It was the first festy I'd been able to fully enjoy without the pain, swelling, and headaches I was used to. Issues with the severe insomnia I'd also been diagnosed with seemed to improve as I continued on this route. My body now functions on it's normal circadian rhythm, which was previously foreign to me as a former shift worker. Moods improved after the initial shock and withdrawal effects of giving up some favorite things wore off. Less rage, less snappage. More dots being connected.

At the time, I still dearly loved my meat, cheese, and eggs, so I switched to only local, grass fed, free range "humanely" raised and slaughtered animal products to try to eat cleaner versions in hopes of continuing my newfound food remedy potentials. Even the nutritionist highly recommended still consuming all of the above, but only in moderation. But the weight stayed on, I still suffered from some significant inflammation and pain, especially in the feet/ankle/calf area and lower back, still ran out of energy quickly, and just didn't feel well more often than not. Moods worsening, again. Dammit!!!!!! I've already sacrificed so many things I loved, wtf??????? (is all I could think) The doc was still very willing to prescribe things to suppress symptoms, but that simply wasn't enough any longer, I wanted to dig up the damn roots so it wouldn't continue to grow. The nutritionist had long since moved away and I just kept eating the way she had taught me hoping relief of some sort would find me.

I had heard of veganism, but was certain I'd die without all of my favorite things that I was convinced were already healthy enough, in moderation especially. (I'm still reminded of working at a fuel station decades ago and watching as folks put diesel in a gasoline engine expecting it to still run okay, even if only a small moderate amount. lol) I also didn't care much for being asked to watch the horrific processes of how food was getting to my table, either. But once I did, I couldn't unsee it or unknow it and it sent me on a whole new head and heart journey in recognizing some of the same exact abuse I'd suffered myself at the hands of others containing and using me for their pleasure. I wasn't just digesting the products, I was also digesting the energies of each and every journey. Woah! There was whole lot of death and darkness at the end of my fork and in my cells, even when heavily marketed as being from a supposed happy place or happy animal, and it no longer tasted nearly as good as I remembered.

Then I had a gall bladder attack that prompted me to finally ditch all of that stuff that my taste buds were hanging onto, no matter how much I loved it, and try the vegan route. Luckily, they didn't have to remove the gall bladder and I called up my favorite vegan friend as soon as I got back home for help and one-on-one guidance. My blood work numbers are better than ever nowadays. I still suffer from significant pain at times, but not nearly as bad as before when I was damn near bed ridden. I also love to cook (as does the hubby) and have a lot of time on my hands since having to resign from my job to try to regain my health, making it much easier for me to follow through with it. Best move I've made in my life thus far, no doubt about it, in both the hubby and the diet. lol It's been hard a f*** for many reasons, but worth it. I never again wish to knowingly consume those things knowing what I know now and having experienced the various levels of relief I've felt.
 
I just have really bad fatigue but I think it's a result of the PTSD. I also have some autoimmune stuff. Do you have a support group for your illness?
Good question. No, I don't have a support group.
The PE problem, I do not believe was related to PTSD in any way. There are a number of class-action lawsuits going on, for women like me who have used a specific type of birth control pill and developed potentially-deadly pulmonary embolisms - I escaped the worst outcome - major stroke or heart attack - only out of luck. 30 year old women are not expected to be at risk for PE's. I was relatively slim, under the age of 35, and a non-smoker.
(I am sorry, but that is my PE rant. Don't take birth control pills without researching. It's important!!)


However - to bring things back around to PTSD - I think there is some link between trauma, and autoimmune and fatigue problems that can develop in some parallel way. They seem to overlap a lot. Based on my own experiences and observations, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, multiple chemical sensitivities and more, are simply misunderstood right now. I grew up with severe asthma and allergies, but I did not develop chronic pain until a couple of years after I developed debilitating PTSD. These things are linked in some way that hasn't yet been accounted for. Symptoms vary so much from person to person. You can have these illnesses without PTSD, and vice versa, but so often I see people who suffer from both. There's often no way to diagnose any of these things, other than excluding other illnesses.

It's true that I suffer fatigue because I don't sleep well, and when I do, my sleep is disrupted by nightmares and physical pain, but I think there is more to it than general insomnia. For one thing, the waking pain is there.
This is all a general impression I've gathered, over the years. I'm not a medical professional... but I feel like a professional sick person.
 
Good question. No, I don't have a support group.
The PE problem, I do not believe was related to PTSD...
I think you are absolutely right about the insomnia. Chronic stress messes with your body's hormone function, including the hormones that affect sleep. I've greatly reduced the stress in my life, don't have nightmares or anxiety around sleep but I can feel the physical aftermath of being stressed all those years. Fortunately I just got some bloodwork done that may get to the bottom of things. I also need to take a saliva test that measures cortisol levels and other hormones.

I highly recommend finding a support group for the medical stuff. It's so helpful. A lot of online nutrition coaches add you to a private Facebook group if you buy one of their products. So if you have a favorite expert on something related to your condition, see if they have an online community. I belong to this community and three health related ones. I also created a secret Facebook group for cat lovers- that's a fun one where I can express my inner crazy cat lady without judgement, but that's another topic!
 
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