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I Always Hear "punch Me In The Face" When You're Speaking, But It's Usually Subtext

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I was turned on to this site by someone on another site that thought I could benefit by talking to other Veterans. I'm still active duty. My last good friend checked out a couple months ago, and I don't really have anyone. Like anyone who's sick (in the head or body) I've become a burden on my unit. I don't have any support with my wife right now, she's going through her own problems (mental as well). I'm not close with any family. The docs aren't telling me a whole lot. I feel like I'm going crazy and they keep telling me to take a pill and a half of Zoloft, change my socks, and stay hydrated; only problem is I want to kill everyone I meet...

I prefer not to disclose my branch/location because I'm still active (and paranoid)
 
Florian, welcome to the forum as we have a few folks that are still active and share your paranoia. You got a lot on your plate but you have to be patient and honest with the doc's. Have you been diagnosed with PTSD/TBI?
The docs aren't telling me a whole lot. I feel like I'm going crazy and they keep telling me to take a pill and a half of Zoloft, change my socks, and stay hydrated; only problem is I want to kill everyone I meet...
You really should let a medical person know about that feeling it could be the result of the meds. In the mean time take some time and read the intro section as it has some interesting topics. If you feel you have to talk with someone PM me.

Ba
 
We all get the paranoia; what combat theater did you serve in? I retired recently from 29 yrs AD and started in group therapy then. Ask your therapist to get you into a group and you'll connect with some folks there that have similar probs and you won't have to explain yourself. My group benefited from AD & retired vets. Some of them are my closest buds now. These folks can also stop you from recreating the wheel in a MEB and with the VA. We'll try to do that here as well.

You're not a burden to your unit, they should support your medical accommodations for combat injury, that is just the warrior stigma messing with your head. If they were willing to carry you out of combat on their backs than the command structure should live up to taking care of the people first and allow you to seek treatment. Seek a LOD letter with a medical treatment plan. Get into your service wounded warrior program. This is why know your service helps us, help you. We know how it works in each one.

You'll have bunch of folks following me on here that can better relate to the med soup drill. I avoided them with my TBI since I was on seizure & pain meds. But the folks here have tons of insight on meds.
 
Greetings Florian,

You're not a burden to your unit, they should support your medical accommodations for combat injury, that is just the warrior stigma messing with your head. If they were willing to carry you out of combat on their backs than the command structure should live up to taking care of the people first and allow you to seek treatment.

What Spock said. In your other post you also alluded that your PTSD is related to your daughter's incident rather than your combat experience — The Post part of PTSD is really the key here, don't discount combat only because your symptoms have come on "recently." That's something to dig into in therapy. Bring a Snickers bar with you...

Your topic title dragged an old Black Flag song out of the deep recesses of my brain "This Is Good."

Hang tough brother.
 
Thanks all, I went to bed after posting here last night. My wife was going to bed, and I don't know why, but we still go through the motions of eating together, shopping together, going to bed together. It's like we both want to be happy, we're just not, and we never talk to each other??? Anyways, the last hope of resolve I cling to is these old routines of ours.

Ba Moi Ba - I assure you I have told the Witch Doctors. They change noting. The keep telling me if I get afraid call 911. I don't want to get to that point. I'm trying to be proactive, because I know I'm going there, but they just keep pushing me down this road. I almost feel like they want me to break.

Spock - I wish I could say my unit supported me, but they do not. After going through my back surgery I was automatically referred to the Wounded Warrior Battalion. During preliminary interview they asked me if I was seeing mental health. When I told them the story, the very next question was, "why don't you have your PH?" I didn't know I rated a PH for a TBI, which opened a whole other can of worms. While trying to put together the endorsements and witness statements, I was literally told I was a scum bag, and what I was doing was a slap in the face to everyone who deserved the PH. It's funny to me, because I'm taking a Anatomy & Physiology class and our intro question is "which body system is MOST important?" 90% of the students answered the nervous system (this is in a military town). Yet in a combat environment unless it's blood and bone, apparently you're making it up, even if you have medical documentation. Long story short, No my command is not supporting me. Not with my TBI, and certainly not with the PTSD or GAD.

It's funny though, because they do believe me. So much so, that when my daughter fell, they launched an unwarranted investigation on me for abuse. If it wasn't for my oldest daughter being in the room and seeing it happen. They probably would've executed me without a trial. During the investigation my oldest daughter fell on the bleachers in school and cut her head. I had to get the entire school to fill out statements. Clearly the believe me. They just don't support me. I don't know why. I went there when things started to get bad, and I went there before I did anything stupid, and I went there on my own accord. Why am I being treated like a criminal. I had 1 really good supervisor (1 rank ahead of me) who saw me come into work one day with my youngest daughter (shortly after everything had happened and babysitting was still kind of dicey). He came up to me afterwards and told me, "the way she holds on to you and looks at you and clings to you, I don't know how they can think your abusive. I'm sorry." It was at that point I realized that my command never even took the time to ask me 1 question when things went wrong. Not one thing. Is your wife O.K.? How is she doing? Is she stable? Where are they keeping her? How are you doing? Is there anything we can do to help? It was just business as usual. It was the same with my daughter. No one called me at the hospital. No one asked me anything. I just came home went to work, no one asked me anything, and then one day there was an investigator at my door. So... No, I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of support.

O.K. I'm rambling. I guess that's why I turned here. I don't have anyone. I'm lost, and scared, and tired, and alone, and I don't know how to get back home from this rabbit hole.


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2nd time in a row, I almost ran someone off the road intentionally with my youngest daughter in the car with me.

I took a few hours to calm down and then I talked to my wife. First time I've done this in a long time. It wasn't a long conversation, but I told her what was going on, of course she knew something, but she had no idea, I haven't told her anything. I didn't want to add stress after her attempted suicide.

I gave her my keys and told her I'm afraid to drive. She told me she would drive me to all my appointments until I figure things out. I know I have to face that demon one day, but I don't have a handle on it right now. I'm going to kill someone if I keep going. I'm too weak right now too fight this. How do I gain strength?
 
Time, treatment and BABY STEPS my Brother.

Giving up the keys until you gain some control - GOOD MOVE, A DEFINATE POSITIVE STEP.

Talking with your wife - GOOD MOVE, it lets her know you care and are trying.

Continuing to post - GOOD MOVE, stay in contact with us. Just writing it down will give you perspective of your problems, and lead to more STEPS.

I believe you need to get to professional help ASAP. If the folks you're talking with now don't help try another sourse. The Vet Centers move much faster than the VA with less red tape. I see guys in uniform there all the time. And, the VA and military can't access Vet Center records. So, your visits are confidential.

SD
 
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I get it, I just didn't want you to think you were a burden. I guess I was being sarcastic so you know they're required to support you and most times they just torture us. That is also how I was treated as well. I can go into great detail about how to fight them but is too distracting when we are this sick and not worth making you worse. Just know you are right and they are wrong. Keep notes and document everything. I'm just glad you're working with the WWB. Since your unit is full of dicks don't give them any ammo to mess with you.

Just kow your rights and press on. Fact is yes you get a PH for TBI but some hardcores don't like that and the military is justifiably protective of that medal. Still the fact is all the services grant PH for TBI. This discussion really affects me hard because it has taken nearly two years to start and get passed how DoD crapped all over me and folks like us, everyday, still. That is why we advocate for our brothers & sisters. It is bad enough dealing with losing a buddy in combat but when we get home (to safety?!?) and then still have to endure battle buddies dying after battle at their own hands...well, that feels criminal. DoD recklessness is also a big reason why there are so many suicides, so we here are keen to pick-up on that and want to ensure you're safe and that we give you good options.
 
Hey Florian

Welcome to the Forums. Yeah, what everyone said. Can't add much except that over time it can get better if you get some treatment. Stay safe Brother.

JarHed
 
It's funny because you know when you're the guy making things happen as much as you do when you're the shit bag. I was the guy making things happen for so long. So many people stole my spotlight. I didn't care about awards or recognition, my troops knew who they were following and that's all that was important to me.

Now they took my troops from me, labeled me, established a "pattern" that fits their agenda, and all I have to show for it is an empty service jacket and a bunch of guys that use to serve under me asking for letters of recommendation. I always took care of my men. I never in my life worried about my superiors, it was their job to take care of me, at least it was in my eyes.

I had an abrasive personality too. One that got the job done in record time, but pissed everyone off doing it. I don't have as much as a negative counseling in my jacket, but when it comes time to need support, I soon realized I burned every single bridge I had. It doesn't matter if I did it completing the mission. I wasn't diplomatic about it.
 
I always took care of my men.

Hey Florian

Some of the things you've said struck home with me as I'm very much like that. Even in civilian life when I've been in charge I always looked to do the right thing to get the best from and for those that worked for me. I'm not just saying this because I share your beliefs but those are admirable qualities in a person. No matter what does eventually happen with you and the service you have to know that doing the right thing and looking out for those that served with you is one of the best qualities in humans. It's something to be proud of.

Semper Fi

Jar
 
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