Delay-onset ptsd

[Deleted member 37474]

https://www.recoveryranch.com/artic...cles/why-do-some-people-develop-delayed-ptsd/

This was the one article citing potential head trauma? Guessing maybe this is somewhat old research.

 

[Esterio]

Or is the thinking that the brain injury affects recall and thus the inability to recall right away causes the delay?

i would go with this one.

 

[Justmehere]

Thanks for the link @TexCat!

I don't think the findings are meant to imply that if one has delayed onset PTSD, that the symptoms are less real or less valid due to a suspected brain injury. Or that delayed onset means someone also has a lasting TBI.

The study they are talking about discusses several other factors that may contribute to delayed onset PTSD and they admit some flaws in how the study is done - especially because they required people to remember if they had symptoms or not 3 months after the trauma. I couldn't answer that question with certainty.

The study also looked a little at why some people develop PTSD at all, and why the majority to do not. One of the things the study authors pointed out was that other life stressors play a huge role in someone developing PTSD and those who did not develop any symptoms. This fits with the PTSD stress cup model.

I also don't think the science is solid on ability to recall = symptoms or not. There is a whole subsection of sufferers who do not recall the trauma due to PTSD itself, proving that one can not remember the trauma and still have PTSD. So if a TBI affects recall, I don't think we can always take that to mean someone won't get PTSD until they recall it. That could be the case in some situations though.

At the end of the day, PTSD is no less valid even if delayed.

 

[EveHarrington]

The article is extremely misleading.

The research studied ONLY people with a TBI.......NOT the delayed onset ptsd community as a whole. This is why their "conclusion" that people with delayed onset ptsd have had a TBI is not only misleading but completely false. The data is misinterpreted.

I don't see the original research, just this half-assed completely false article written by someone who doesn't know how to interpret scientific data-----my best guess is that they tried to interpret data to fit their false premise.

Re-read it with this in mind and you'll see that their conclusions are completely and totally wrong.

If you want to know if TBI is a major contributor to delayed onset ptsd, you can't just study those with both a TBI and PTSD. You have to study the delayed onset community as a whole, those who have and have not had a TBI.

In addition, they only do a half-assed reference so you don't even know what article/study is being referenced.

 

[Esterio]

I wonder if it is a red herring though, does it mater if it is delayed onset it is still PTSD.

 

[Deleted member 37474]

I wonder if it is a red herring though, does it mater if it is delayed onset it is still PTSD.

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Yeah... maybe people don't necessarily research it, because "what is the point, really?" We still have to treat it. I also wonder if it is harder to treat when it is late onset? Should the treatment be the same?

 

[Esterio]

They told me it was harder to treat the longer it festered. Get at PTSD right away is supposed to be best . At least that is what I gave been told

 

[Deleted member 37474]

What do you all think about this article?https://www.verywell.com/delayed-onset-ptsd-meaning-and-reasons-2797636

Honestly, I may have started this thread just to be less annoying to my therapist, lol. It seems as though I ask her for validation about my diagnosis every other week. Why is it so hard for me to accept all of this? My life seemed so normal until the major stressors that built up over the past few years. And then having to reevaluate the rape that I didn't seem to care about or be affected by from 24 years prior. It just pops in out of nowhere and seems so much worse. And the HS boyfriend abuse that I didn't realize was even abuse because I was so "in love." To deal with it all now as my daughters are turning into women before my eyes. Maybe they should research more on that! Or... Hand out a pamphlet in high school and college to all the girls that says: when you are raped, even if it doesn't seem that bad, it was, pay attention and deal with it now!!! Otherwise, you will relive it over and over again when your daughters begin to look like you at age 16-19.

 

[Esterio]

Hi TexCat
A dog bit my ear off when I was 3 or 4. I most likely deserved it. It never bothered me and I have had many large aggressive dogs my whole life. I was in many dog fights nothing bothered me. Until once this year I was reading a post about some one taking Pictures of dogs for the SPCA for showing for adoption. She was viciously attacked. I had to stop reading My heart was racing I was trebling and sweating. The next morning I was listening to old time radio program Dragnet. They were trying to get a lady to turn over her dog so they could be sure it didn't have rabies. Same thing From then On now I get flashbacks to that event. I think when you have experienced trauma their are things that will trigger you some times it takes along time for that to happen TexCat. That happen 58 or 59 years ago never thought of if once until that post.
Peace be safe

 

[hodge]

I read the article you posted, @TexCat. The one thing I noticed and take issue with is that delayed onset is rare. I think just by reading this thread that it's not so rare. The therapist who originally diagnosed me was not at all surprised and just said how common it is for people to just keep their horrors in back of them till they finally come back to kick you in the butt. Yep. That's about my story.

 

[Friday]

You might find this poll interesting. When Did the Symptoms of PTSD First Appear, After the Initial Traumatic Event?

More than half responded delayed 6+ months.

Then you've got people like me, who didn't answer, because I have no idea when I got symptomatic. I have a rough time period of about 2 years, but there's no pinpoint of this was it.

 

[hodge]

I was really fortunate to have a good 20 years or so between the time I kind of got my shit together and the time PTSD hit me. Yeah, in retrospect, I can see I managed to kick it all behind me for a pretty long time. Then I just ran out of go-juice, I guess.