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Thank you all. I want to withdraw. I had some difficulties with my T yesterday, although she did a lot to make up for it. it made it even harder to open up to her. I sort of dodged the question of how strong my suicidal thoughts are. I sort of want to open up and tell her but at the same time... I don't have a plan for who would take care of my animals so it's not an option. So telling her just seems attention seeking. Just like this post is attention seeking... and yeah, I've slipped into old patterns. right now, anything I say that isn't positive or helpful to others is needy and wrong. old patterns. Which just makes me feel worse, because shouldn't I be past this?

for now, no surgery. the meniscus tear is in an area where it *may* heal on it's own so we start PT and wait another month. of course, our brain has decided that we must be exaggerating how bad things are and attention seeking since we don't need surgery.

I know it's wrong to say, but I really wish suicide was an option.... and the voices say, if we aren't even go to try, we shouldnt take up space here. we should let the people who actually want to post heal.
 
"Which just makes me feel worse, because shouldn't I be past this?"

Oh, Muttly, I feel so bad for you, for all of us... No, we "should" not be past this, this being the source of our PTSD. It's a goal where some days we can hold our head above water, then some days we need help to do so. That's why we're all here on the forum. Keep writing it out for us, how you feel, what you think, so that when it's our turn, we can follow your lead and learn how to share our bad days with the group until we finally share our good days as well.
 
It is attention seeking... the GOOD kind... you are telling us how much pain you are in... wishing for an end, and yet won't take the easy way out... it is GOOD attention seeking... can you hear me saying that to you... ??? You remind me of me in the early years, I could talk myself out of reaching out, because, well, hell, it just wasn't that bad.... and I was taking up space on earth and couldn't find my way out of the rabbit hole, yet hated being there !!!!
You are doing just what needs to be done.... so wrestle with the all the negative noise, but still let us know what is going on.... this is not a joke being here on this forum.... this is very serious.... and you don't have to 'believe' you have a right to be here sharing, but you can still share... the 'believing' will come later.... and there is a 'later'.... with some peace and healing.... don't give up five minutes before you hear or read something that will make a difference for you.... we are here for you.... and attention seeking here, that happens to be a very good thing, not what the old noise is telling you... :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
 
I appreciate all the responses. I feel like I'm taking up space. I do. like if I could just stop... needing, wanting, expecting and just be the happy, supportive guy people see life would be so much better for everyone.

And I really feel like I shouldn't be posting right nwo. I am because I'm not sure what else to do at the moment.it's been a long time since I've been in this particularly head space. it's the one that actually frightens me. the one that makes me fear what I? we? will do. it's the one where I feel the least sane. And of course that's all drama. I'm all drama. blah blah blah

this is different then the dragging, exhausted "I can't" that Ive been feeling. this is where someone inside my head decides that maybe we can just go ahead and self-destruct. Or something like that. maybe it's just that too many of us are ??? sometimes I really, really hate this DID brain.

I woke up early. couldn't get back to sleep and I really wanted tto. but then... I had flashbacks or something and sleep was out of the option. told my tenant I was up early because of a nightmare. he has ptsd so he gets it, although I've said nothing about what caused mine and just know the bare bones of what caused his. we did have a bit of a conversation about why I sleep on the couch so often and it was nice to know someone does get it... anyway, I thought I was lying about the nightmare. And then he was off doing his thing and I threw myself into chores. way past what was good for my leg. I really wanted to rest today because we have been so freaking tired. nope. didnt eat anything just go, go, go. a classic pattern for us. like we can out run the thoughts. and writing this makes things make somewht more sense. this is the pattern and we get more jumbled and self-destructive as bed time approaches. And then sometimes we remember the nightmare we didn't have... blah.

so.. at least I have more understanding what's going on but what doesn't really help (well, maybe a bit). I just want to crawl out of my skin. And I'm writing because it's the only healthy coping I can come up with. And because I guess I've been feeling a bit... ignored, unimportant, dismissed by people in real life so I am not going to reach out to anyone real. not that I would anywya, I suck at it but now unless I think I'm actually going to kill myself, nope.

I don't even know if I'm making sense. I'm sorry :(
and I keep saying sorry, but there's not enough sorries in the world.
drama drama drama
I can't stand anything I think
 
I think 'whining' is probably one of the most toxic words for trauma survivors, since most of us were either explicitly told or tacitly instructed to 'toughen up' when material came into our lives that was destined to become intolerably destructive.

I spent the last three years until March suffering in a job where I was so miserable that I went home and drank myself nearly to death, in the end. After I drank myself into ER for the second time in six months, and became physically aware that I had about three weeks to live, I decided to redefine 'whining' in my own terms.

I've only just got here, and only browsed a few forums, but already it's obvious how many of us have incorporated shame into our condition. It's fairly central to mine, for sure. And there seems to be a really dangerous misconception that there's a straight and unvarying 'spectrum' of who had it worst, and that people who didn't dodge mortar blasts have x% less right to feel bad, etc.

It makes no sense. There are individuals out there who perhaps got no serious trauma from the battle-zone but maybe became alcoholic when their partners left; or who can handle intimacy with maturity and insight but can't get into lifts or enclosed spaces; etc etc.

An example from my life: I guess I score pretty high for 'trauma validity' because I was sexually abused, along with a sibling, by my family doctor when I was ten. But the truth is, that's not why I'm here. I lived that entire experience, never buried it, never forgot it, and when I grew up had fantasies about giving that son of a bitch a good kicking. I internalised and integrated that decades ago.

But what completely stopped my development was being brought up by a mother with full-on, all-symptoms schizophrenia who was so good at 'passing' in public (bright, witty, professional ad popular) that no-one would guess she sealed up the cracks in her radiators to stop 'strange men' crawling through them, or saw crystals in the sky. And it took forty years to actually hear a doctor finally make that diagnosis, and to 'out' that destructive family secret.

So long as we're doing something about it, we get to whine. And since we're trying to do something about it, we are the 'responsible adults' that, for many of us, were missing when the bad stuff came down. Whine away!
 
This morning I was thinking so hard about how to make auicide work. It’s the pets that stop me. If I had a plan for them....

it’s a bit better now. There is snow which I love. And It was my first PR session and she helped me feel like my knee issues are real and was helpful

But I’m still really there. The sui ideation. I have a plan for how I just don’t know what to do about the animals.

I see my T in a bit. I don’t know if j wa to tell her. She was a bit off her game this week. And intellectually I know she’s been amazing for years but, too much disappointment with people this week. Not sure I can trust enough right now.
 
@AnotherUser thank you. there's a lot of wisdom in your words.I think my therapist may have tried to say something similar about redefining "whining".

@Ronin is it terrible that right now I wish I didn't care for others. That not caring sounds so much easier.

@ladee yes, my T was saying how needing attention is just a human need. Bah humbag, make m a cyborg
 
@Muttly, Cyborgs need love too ya know !!! Sorry you are so raw feeling and wishing you were wrapped in something that made you invisible.... but you are important to us, so , sorry, we see you, hear you, support you, and are walking with you.... gentle hugs if you accept, the hugs are for the Cyborg if you don't want 'em.... :sneaky:
And if you are still 'planning', I would sure work on a way to tell my T.. even if you write it down and hand it to her.....
Do you mind sharing what the gain is by not being here...??? I have thought about it myself... but could never do it.... there is just too much to this world besides pain..... supporting you to stay alive and see what happens next....
 
I sent my T a message and told her that I had figured out who could take care of 3 of my 5 animals. She responded some time last night and said, "Are you telling me you are actively suicidal?" I don't know how to answer that. I guess the answer is that some of us are. Some of us, aren't "Actively". Now I am freaking out and wishing we didn't send her that messaage

@Muttly, ...Do you mind sharing what the gain is by not being here...??? I have thought about it myself... but could never do it.... there is just too much to this world besides pain..... supporting you to stay alive and see what happens next....

I will come back to this. have to get to work
 
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