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News Article claiming divorce caused ptsd

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PTSD doesn't mean more severe and not PTSD doesn't mean less severe.
I think you may be misunderstanding what I am trying to say. I don't actually give a rats ass about severity. I would be tickled pink had I walked out of the DV with anxiety or panic attacks only. For 2 years I thought I was going crazy with flashbacks I can't even put words to. Dropping into a comatose state for days at a time. I literally thought I had lost my mind.

When someone was actually able to put the pieces together for me it allowed me to understand that what I had was work-with-able. That I hadn't gone stark raving mad. Not everyone cares about a 'more severe to fit the diagnosis' thing. This was for different reasons altogether and I don't think it is right to shove on somebody a belief that what they want is a 'cool' diagnosis. I wanted something that fit my symptoms. That's it.
 
I wanted something that fit my symptoms. That's it.

I do get that and I think we all want that. But emotional abuse isn't disorder-less. So I guess I am confused at why it's important to you that it becomes "PTSD worthy" and very curious about that term. To me, it seems like you feel that we maybe saying that emotional abuse isn't as severe as those that more squarely fit into criteria A and at least for me, I don't see it that way. The emotional parts of my trauma were worse and they were (and are) the hardest to work past. But the science isn't there to show it alone can cause PTSD and that's ok. It can cause a large array of mental disorders and I suppose I am curious why those aren't ok or "worthy". Not trying to put words in your mouth. Just explaining my thought process is all.
 
It really makes sense to me @shimmerz , I was talking to my T today about my memory telling me @things weren't that bad" but my triggers being all over the place at times - the PTSD diagnosis pulls it all together. It says "it was trauma, and you've been affected by it in this way". Otherwise all the flashbacks and hypervigilence and sleep issues don't make sense because I don't have anything that bad to react to.

I too have no interest in diagnosis beyond the diagnosis says that what happened to me was traumatic, my symptoms only make sense if I was traumatised therefor what happened to me was bad enough to be trauma in the PTSD sense of the word.
 
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But emotional abuse isn't disorder-less.
Because, I believe that an attempt to psychologically annihilate someone by means of emotional abuse is an attempt to kill that person's psychological self. I don't know about you, but it is exactly that psychological self that I must repair in order to heal. That, to me, means that psychologically I was 'broken' by somebody and that could very well have taken on the form of emotional abuse only.
because I don't have anything that bad to react to.
Yes. Exactly. I can see that you have dealt with this too. I am sorry to hear that.
my symptoms only make sense if I was traumatised there for what happened to me was bad enough to be trauma in the PTSD sense of the word.
Yes, you said that much better than I ever could have. Thank you.
 
Right. This is all, fine, well and good...

...but the author of the article cheated on his wife, and got his @$$ handed to him during the divorce.

Infidelity is one helluva form of psychological/emotional abuse to inflict on someone. It's an even more destructive betrayal, when you inflict it on your spouse.

The abuser was playing the victim card at his ex-wife's expense.
 
I recognize that many believe that physical abuse only can lead to PTSD. I disagree, certainly after having lived through what I have. Physical wounds can heal (mostly), but psychological abuse - in my opinion - is a soul crusher.
I just have an inkling that psychological stuff will one day be proven to be PTSD worthy. Just an opinion.
It already is. There's not a required physical component to these:
The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatened serious injury, or actual or threatened sexual violence, in the following way(s): direct exposure, and/or witnessing the trauma, and/or learning that a relative or close friend was exposed to a trauma, and/or indirect exposure to aversive details of the trauma, usually in the course of professional duties (e.g., first responders, medics)

What is distinct (and this is why infidelity just doesn't fit), is:
  • death or threat of death
  • serious injury or threat of serious injury
  • sexual violence or threat of sexual violence
"Threat of" is where people sometimes miss the mark, because they equate discovering their partner was cheating with "feeling like they were going to die". But "death" as a metaphor is not the same as actual or threatened death. Whereas, many domestic violence situations invoke threat of death or serious injury or sexual violence. Sometimes there will be a single incident of actual serious injury or sexual violence, but not always.

Trying to categorize "psychological abuse" as a type of serious injury (that's where it would live, I think, in the criteria) is another kind of metaphor-making. That's probably another reason why I think it's useful to stay narrow with these things. A threat is, in essence, an example of a psychological abuse. But threatening oh, say, blackmail - as opposed to threatening to shoot someone - is the threat of blackmail by itself - absent any kind of threat of serious injury or violence - enough to create PTSD?

I can see it instigating PTSD, in someone who has more to their history. But all by itself...no, I'm not sure it would. Extreme stress, yes. Fear, yes. Blackmail involving a kidnapped loved one who is being harmed, that can get us into PTSD. Blackmail as in, "do this thing, or I'll break your legs" - that could be plausible threat, depending, and it could be believed enough to cause PTSD - you don't have to be laying on the asphalt with a hammer being held over your kneecaps for a threat to be viable. But blackmail, as in, "pay me the money or I'll release the compromising pictures..." - no, blackmail really isn't enough.

"Threat of" is also where we invoke the concept of "I thought I was going to die/I thought I was going to be seriously injured/thought I was going to be raped". It's up to the diagnostician to evaluate - was the threat enough to plausibly cause that fear, when considering the whole of the circumstance, and the age of the patient?

From there, we get into how children believe things differently from adults; however, a child's concepts of death and injury vary greatly from an adult's, and they are tied to where they are in their development, and their learned/observed experience.

A person who says, "I was severely bullied, and thought I was going to get really hurt, maybe even killed" - it's up to the diagnostician to ascertain whether that belief was what the individual had at the time, or whether they've introduced it later in life. A child can be terrified of breaking a limb - or, a child can think they can jump off the roof and be fine.

Specifics of the narrative, how the narrative is delivered, context for the trauma event, age, prior exposure to elements that relate...and then how the symptoms have manifest, all that stuff - ultimately, that's all necessary info. The buzzwords (bullying for example) get in the way of communicating clear information about the narrative, and can lead to mis-perception and misinformation, generally.

That, to me, means that psychologically I was 'broken' by somebody and that could very well have taken on the form of emotional abuse only.
I'm curious - and you can link me to anything you've posted elsewhere, no need to re-type painful things - would you say that at least some of the psychological breaking that you endured came in the form of threat of death, serious injury, or sexual violence, or threat of same to an intimate loved one?
 
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