My therapist is a sociopath and he doesn't help me

[Deleted member 45588]

It's so hard when your sense of reality is so different to what others are telling you.

Err... if you read my other posts, they was little decent assessment or evidence that I was actually psychotic so you're going off that :/. I genuinely was sexually assaulted. Everyone else but my therapist believes me so I'm sorry but I very strongly disagree.

What do you think your T means when he says you have psychosis?

He doesn't say I'm psychotic, they only said that in the institution.

 

[Suzetig]

Err... if you read my other posts, they was little decent assessment or evidence that I was actually psychotic so you're going off that :/. I genuinely was sexually assaulted

I never questioned whether you were sexually assaulted, you asked if psychosis could make someone think they had been sexually assaulted or think they had a mental illness and the answer to that is yes. I'm not "going off anything" I didn't ask you if you thought you had psychosis nor did I say I thought you had psychosis. I asked you what you thought it meant.

I'm sorry, I missed that your T hasn't said you're psychotic - is he still assessing you? Why does he think the sexual assault wasn't real if he's still assessing you, that seems a pretty odd conclusion to reach without a finalised assessment.

 

[Gs172003]

What if he actually is one though? And I know the traits of a sociopath and they all apply to him so...

Where are you getting your information on what a sociopath is? Just curious.

 

[Deleted member 45588]

Where are you getting your information on what a sociopath is? Just curious.

Mix of the DSM-5 and Robert Hare Sociopathy checklist, but from the Internet.

 

[Stephernovas]

So I read your first post and skimmed down the first page. I am incredibly confused about what you're ranting on about because you have no identified things this guy does. You have jumped right into labelling him a manipulator. Honestly, your first post made me question if you struggle with any form of psychosis. If you are having issues, it's best to describe specific scenarios that you have been in that qualify it as sociopathic or illegal behaviours of your therapist.

 

[Deleted member 45588]

So I read your first post and skimmed down the first page...

All right, fair enough. It's a little hard not to respond to a post like this getting upset, but I will just try to see it as an opinion that may or may not be true, because that's what it is. Just like my own humble opinions, to be fair.

The guy is connected with the institution where people did something really awful and (genuinely) traumatic I'd rather not talk about for now and that's why I assume he's a sociopath. I associate the bad, depraved thing they did to me there with him because when I spoke out about what they did to be there they lied and said it was to do with me being 'psychotic'.

Sociopaths have a superficial charm, which in turn means they're likeable which means in my opinion that most people will laugh at you, dismiss you or call you crazy if you out them. I suppose it's hard to spot sociopaths because they're probably really good at hiding their symptoms, so what I can I say?

I guess like someone here said before the label doesn't matter and the fact I feel unsafe with this therapist is what counts, sociopath or not.

 

[Gs172003]

All right, fair enough. It's a little hard not to respond to a post like this getting upset, but I w...

So if somebody works somewhere you don't like and is too nice for your liking they are a sociopath? Is that correct?

 

[Stephernovas]

All right, fair enough. It's a little hard not to respond to a post like this getting upset, but I w...

Ok, so it's rooted back to an incident that happened but not him imparticularly. That makes more sense, but I will continue with mentioning it would be helpful to keep your emotions in check when explaining, and offer more examples of how he has wronged you. This will help you advocate for yourself further than simply calling him a sociopath. I know what the word is, but when you make those accusations, you need to help your audience understand why you believe he is one. Does that make sense?

 

[Deleted member 45588]

So if somebody works somewhere you don't like and is too nice for your liking they are a sociopath? Is t...

If they fit all the traits too, then yes. I think ''superficial charm'' means that this is a genuine trait of sociopaths, but I suppose there are others way to be charming than 'too nice' but it's coming to light that this may be some sort of trust issue and other problems with me really. I really want to be more cautious when deciding if someone is a sociopath.

I've never actually been too fond of those people on the Internet who complain about virtually everyone being 'narcissists' and 'sociopaths' in the workplace, but I guess I have been one of those people now:cautious:.

 

[Fadeaway]

Sociopaths have a superficial charm, which in turn means they're likeable which means in my opinion that most people will laugh at you, dismiss you or call you crazy if you out them.

I can totally relate to this because I was married to one. A judge patted my ex on the back and told him he was a good man after he arrested for bashing my face into the kitchen counter repeatedly and breaking a window to get to me after I locked myself in a room to hide from him and ripped the phone jacks out of the wall so I couldn't call 911. (and that is the parts I am actually willing to talk about at the moment) Social security determined I qualified for disability based on the very same police report that the judge read, yet my ex charmed the judge into acting like they were best buddies.

At the same time, there are professions where non-sociopaths have to act like one because the job calls for it. Therapists and sales people are the two that come to mind. Sales people trigger me pretty bad because they have to act charming.

I guess like someone here said before the label doesn't matter and the fact I feel unsafe with this therapist is what counts, sociopath or not.

That is exactly it because if you can't trust your T, they can't help you so it is a waste of both peoples time.

 

[joeylittle]

Sociopaths have a superficial charm, which in turn means they're likeable which means in my opinion that most people will laugh at you, dismiss you or call you crazy if you out them. I suppose it's hard to spot sociopaths because they're probably really good at hiding their symptoms, so what I can I say?

Just am going to share this again, because - no. Sociopaths and psychopaths aren't the same. Sociopaths aren't generally superficially charming. Both labels fall under Anti-Social Personality Disorder, but socio- and psycho- are two different things. If you're going to reference the DSM, then be more specific. You seem to think this is a matter of opinion, but it's not.

Just as you seem to think that lay-diagnosing a personality disorder is a matter of opinion, which it is not.

You don't need to go into detail about what happened to you in your forced inpatient stay - I want to be clear, I'm not daring you to prove that they did something horrible. They may well have. That still does not prove a personality disorder.

It's perfectly find to say, "I think my therapist is a bad guy, and that he's in league with the other bad people at the psych unit I was put in". That statement is accurate and appropriate to your situation.

You are on a mental health board. The available facts about mental health will not be up for grabs.

Now, the available facts about mental health are not always reflective of what individuals experience - and sometimes, that means they are wrong. The scientists do not always have it right.

But you're not arguing that point, you're simply sticking to your preferred opinion about what these words mean. Feel free to carry on, but just know that it gets in the way of people understanding what you are actually struggling with.

Back to the topic: How is your current paranoia about the mental health system in your area serving you. Do you believe it's keeping you safe? It's definitely interfering with your ability to get help. It was brought up - what about a female therapist? Do you have the option to pursue that? You said it might make a difference...

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Sociopaths and psychopaths aren't the same.

Agreed and that was sort of my bad as I read the title wrong. Some spell psychopath with an "S" instead of a "P". But agreed with the entire post nonetheless.

Honestly, your first post made me question if you struggle with any form of psychosis.

Also agreed.